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The cat we couldn't catch.

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BradMtn346
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Accomplished a win today. There has been a bobcat around the east end of our place that has given my dogs and I the slip for the last 3 years. Probably ran him a dozen times. The dogs took him on 2 big circles, 3.8 miles, and finally got him up a tree that he stuck in. Pretty good Tom. Hunter, my son, and Fritz, my Son-in-law, got to go. SIL almost died. Apparently 3 years out of the Marine Corps causes you to loose all that conditioning. He says it's the altitude, but he's been here a week. Pretty poor excuse for not being able to keep up with a fat old man. (Me).





https://imgur.com/a/PTflr0r
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Awesome. Good job old guy.
ttha_aggie_09
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Hell yeah!
B-1 83
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Now what? What are bobcat hides bringing these days?
BradMtn346
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B-1 83 said:

Now what? What are bobcat hides bringing these days?


I have not sold one for a while. Hearing $50 to $500. I had tried to get my dogs' first bobcat mounted, but that was about 5 years ago and the "taxidermist" is still giving me BS every time I talk to him. Probably going to take this one to someone I trust to do the work.
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That's a good sized cat. But I'm curious as to why you hunted him down. What damage was he doing? Not judging; just curious.
Jabin
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You say you're not judging, but your question is inherently judgmental. Why do you assume that the cat had to be harming anything? Maybe he just likes to hunt cats? Same reason people hunt anything. Last I heard, quail don't damage much at all, but lots of folks like to hunt and shoot them.
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Always enjoy your posts brad. A couple weeks ago someone was asking about mountain lion hunting. I thought about you and how I hadn't seen you post in awhile. Glad to see everything seems to be going well.
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dmart90 said:

That's a good sized cat. But I'm curious as to why you hunted him down. What damage was he doing? Not judging; just curious.


Lots of reasons, their fur still brings a decent price, I had one on camera earlier this fall killing my chickens, they kill a bunch of wild turkeys.

All that said, the biggest reason is it is what my dogs were bred to do. They are lion dogs, and bobcat is the next best thing. I love watching dogs work. Never thought I'd be into hounds, but I did it once and was hooked.
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Thanks for answering my question. Appreciate it!
RM76
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Very nice cat! Fur looks long and prime. Should make a great mount. I grew up with coon hounds (back during the hey-day of furs, 1960s to early 1980s). Always enjoy watching trail/treeing hounds work.
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I wish the Bobcats in our part of San Saba County would kill half the Turkey we have. It would still leave too many of those corn thieves. On average I have between 40-80 hit my feeders on a regular basis.
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Sorry I rustled your jimmy. It was an honest question.
O.G.
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You sir have some awesome dogs. Well done.
BradMtn346
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Doc Hayworth said:

I wish the Bobcats in our part of San Saba County would kill half the Turkey we have. It would still leave too many of those corn thieves. On average I have between 40-80 hit my feeders on a regular basis.


Very willing to help with turkey removal.
BradMtn346
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O.G. said:

You sir have some awesome dogs. Well done.


Thank you. Sometimes they get it right. I was pretty proud this day. I tried again Sunday. Snow was too old too many tracks. I couldn't even figure the trails out. More than one cat had been hunting back and forth across the ridge for 2 days. Exercise in frustration.
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Doc Hayworth said:

I wish the Bobcats in our part of San Saba County would kill half the Turkey we have. It would still leave too many of those corn thieves. On average I have between 40-80 hit my feeders on a regular basis.

Turkeys are cool and all until they explode like rats and no one shoots them. Need about 3 people in a blind with 4 shot 12 gauge.. let them come in and then make some coyote food
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Jabin said:

You say you're not judging, but your question is inherently judgmental. Why do you assume that the cat had to be harming anything? Maybe he just likes to hunt cats? Same reason people hunt anything. Last I heard, quail don't damage much at all, but lots of folks like to hunt and shoot them.

Quail don't take care of rodents and keep other, potentially deadly, rodent predators like snakes away. Besides, quail gets consumed. Nowhere near the same thing.

Obviously, he can do what he wants but its a fair question.
BradMtn346
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91AggieLawyer said:

Jabin said:

You say you're not judging, but your question is inherently judgmental. Why do you assume that the cat had to be harming anything? Maybe he just likes to hunt cats? Same reason people hunt anything. Last I heard, quail don't damage much at all, but lots of folks like to hunt and shoot them.

Quail don't take care of rodents and keep other, potentially deadly, rodent predators like snakes away. Besides, quail gets consumed. Nowhere near the same thing.

Obviously, he can do what he wants but its a fair question.



For everyone here that likes my stories. I don't mind questions. Especially about cat hunting. It is not universally accepted among hunters, so it is never a waste of my time to try to explain it. It is hard to explain to those that have not seen it. I try to.


I'm in Colorado, and much to my surprise, we beat the anti cat hunting proposal pretty soundly. That means we are talking to enough people, but it never hurts to talk to more.
BradMtn346
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fullback44 said:

Doc Hayworth said:

I wish the Bobcats in our part of San Saba County would kill half the Turkey we have. It would still leave too many of those corn thieves. On average I have between 40-80 hit my feeders on a regular basis.

Turkeys are cool and all until they explode like rats and no one shoots them. Need about 3 people in a blind with 4 shot 12 gauge.. let them come in and then make some coyote food



Again, volunteering for Turkey control job. Will turn them into damn good people food.
BradMtn346
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For a follow up, I took the cat to get sealed today. Picked up a couple that I killed last year from my normal fur buyer. Because of Prop 127, both my son and I had cats we caught last year skinned for taxidermy, in case we never got to hunt again. Since we are hunting, I picked them up to get them out of his freezer. I asked his opinion on the cat we killed Friday before I dropped it off at the taxidermist. He said he would buy this cat whole, in the round, as they say, for between $250 and $300. He was waffling. I'm keeping it and spending a pile on the taxidermy. For the record.
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Nice cat! Amazing dogs!

Did your SIL know what he was getting himself into when he married your daughter?
BradMtn346
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oh no said:

Nice cat! Amazing dogs!

Did your SIL know what he was getting himself into when he married your daughter?


He had an idea. He had just gotten out of the Marine Corps when they met. So he thought he was tough. He came here and asked my permission. So tough enough for that. If my answer had been no, this thread would not exist.


Now he is inquiring about coming here and helping on the ranch. Lots more endurance needs to be seen before that idea is entertained.
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Must be true love. Married a girl only to find himself running around in the mountains in the snow with BIL and FIL chasing dogs who treed a cat!
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Beautiful cat! Would love to go on a big cat hunt someday
O.G.
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To me, it is akin to the old English foxhunt. With a little more rock and roll thrown in. One could argue that killing/catching fox disrupts the ecosystem as well, but the hunt itself, the act, the dress, the ceremony itself, is the reason for the hunt.
Having a pack of good hunting hounds is almost as old as hunting itself. It is possible that it goes back as far as 20,000 years, but for sure there is evidence that it goes back 12,000 years.

Consistently catching cats with houds is hard. Very hard. The movies like, Where the Red Fern Grows etc show old school hound men catching coons with hounds, Jerry Clower talked about it and country songs are written about it, but coons are absolute childs play compared to catching cats.

Bobcats separate the men from the boys amongst hounds.

In modern times one could argue that hunting with hounds for some animals, like bobcats or mountain lions, isn't "necessary". One could also argue that hunting deer for meat isn't necessary because you can go to the store now for your food, but people still meat hunt. If you've never been on a legit cat hunt, if for no other reason than to hear/watch the hounds work, I strongly encourage you to do so.

Having a hound that can unravel a cat trail for hours, then run that animal for hours (a light/streamlined bobcat can run for long periods of time) is a rare thing. Most hounds can't do it. The overwhelming majority of hounds can't do it. The typical long eared "blood hound" like you see in the movies absolutely can not catch a cat.

You need a dog that is very athletic, marathon runner athletic, also very smart but also has a nose that is cold enough to pick up a scent that is hours or a day old.

Given that there are fewer houndmen than there used to be, by far, the number of available dogs is also fewer and further between. So, hunting of this type is an art that takes a long time to learn and patience. It is much like any other "hobby" that is very expensive and others wonder why the hell you do it. Having grown up around hounds myself, I don't have an interest in owning them personally but I'm glad that people still do.
Hungry Ojos
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Love these threads. I wish you'd post pics of ALL your hunts.
BradMtn346
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Hungry Ojos said:

Love these threads. I wish you'd post pics of ALL your hunts.

Thanks. Haven't been many really good ones lately. And I'm thinking about trying to write for magazines, so I'm holding some stuff back.
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