What do you think about someone wanting to feed the coyotes so that they don't have to eat pets to survive?

https://www.change.org/p/implement-feeding-programs-for-wild-coyotes-by-city-park-rangers

From the petition:

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Wild coyotes are a part of our ecosystem. Biologists estimate that there could be up to a million coyotes residing in North America (Source: Humane Society). As our cities expand, the natural habitat of these creatures shrinks, challenging their ability to feed themselves adequately, and more often than not, leading them to prey on our domesticated pets.

I urge our cities to implement feeding programs managed by park rangers to proactively reduce these incidents. Introducing these feeding programs is not only beneficial for the safety of our pets but also crucial for preserving wildlife. It's a balanced solution where humans, pets, and wildlife can coexist.

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That sounds like a big city Democrat -- spend money to make the problem worse.

I think we should shoot them so they don't have to starve and eat pets.

AgResearch said:

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I think we should shoot them so they don't have to starve and eat pets.

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Or feed them cyanide laden meat.

We used to feed them rabies vaccine bait. From what I understand, if we get this on our hands, it can cause heath problems for humans. We are advised that if we get it on our skin, to wash it off and go to the doctor's office.

Timik may or may not work well.

that will only further grow the population beyond what they can naturally hunt, then unless you expand feeding to match, they will most likely become more aggressive as they outgrow their natural food supply.

even worse, if they feed them around humans, or the coyotes begin to associate humans with food, now you have an even bigger problem that will compound even more with the growing population: more coyotes that are hungry and now are less timid to be around humans..

thats stupid squared..

I live on a lil 1/2 mile long street that backs up to Dickinson Bayou watershed with a cattle pasture behind the houses. My house is at the dead end of the street. One of the neighbors half way down throws scraps over the fence for the coyotes. I tell them thank you gives me live target practice and I've shot a couple dozen. They said pls don't shoot them they like to see them.... i said no chance as they attack the neighborhood pets including goats and chickens and mini horses and whatever. So i keep shooting and they keep attracting.... idiots.

eric76 said:

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AgResearch said:

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I think we should shoot them so they don't have to starve and eat pets.

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Or feed them cyanide laden meat.

We used to feed them rabies vaccine bait. From what I understand, if we get this on our hands, it can cause heath problems for humans. We are advised that if we get it on our skin, to wash it off and go to the doctor's office.

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Are you referring to the cyanide or the ORV?

agrams said:

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that will only further grow the population beyond what they can naturally hunt, then unless you expand feeding to match, they will most likely become more aggressive as they outgrow their natural food supply.

even worse, if they feed them around humans, or the coyotes begin to associate humans with food, now you have an even bigger problem that will compound even more with the growing population: more coyotes that are hungry and now are less timid to be around humans..

thats stupid squared..

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Exactly.

Feed them and the problem will grow.

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eric76 said:

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AgResearch said:

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I think we should shoot them so they don't have to starve and eat pets.

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Or feed them cyanide laden meat.

We used to feed them rabies vaccine bait. From what I understand, if we get this on our hands, it can cause heath problems for humans. We are advised that if we get it on our skin, to wash it off and go to the doctor's office.

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Are you referring to the cyanide or the ORV?

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Feed them the rabies vaccine first. Then the cyanide.

That way, they die healthy.

Change.org is headquartered in San Francisco. Thats about all you need to know.

Feed them lead

dp

SGrem said:

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I live on a lil 1/2 mile long street that backs up to Dickinson Bayou watershed with a cattle pasture behind the houses. My house is at the dead end of the street. One of the neighbors half way down throws scraps over the fence for the coyotes. I tell them thank you gives me live target practice and I've shot a couple dozen. They said pls don't shoot them they like to see them.... i said no chance as they attack the neighborhood pets including goats and chickens and mini horses and whatever. So i keep shooting and they keep attracting.... idiots.

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I have never seen a coyote that I wanted hanging around the house.

When I was in high school, trapping coyotes was a thing for some people around here. I knew one guy who made his spending money during college by hunting coyotes.

But then, he trapped and killed a coyote and hand raised her pup. According to him, that coyote pup was smarter than any dog he ever had. He liked it so much that he quit hunting coyotes because of it.

In the 1950's or 1960's, someone around here found a coyote in a pasture that covered about four sections. They chased it with their pickup and every time it started to get near a fence, they would cut it off and turn it in a different direction.

After a bit, it just fell over dead. I have been told that they had run him so hard and non-stop that he had a heart attack.

O.G. said:

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Change.org is headquartered in San Francisco. Thats about all you need to know.

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Remember when they wanted to reintroduce wolves into parks?

I was all in favor of the plan as long as the first park was Central Park.

Your thread title reminded me of a story…

When my now teenager was quite young, we stopped by our farm one day. As he was looking out the window while we were driving through a pasture, he kept excitedly saying "There's a pig! And…there's a pig! And….there's a pig!"

Sure enough, we drove up to a hog trap to unexpectedly find a pig. (My dumbass now ex-brother-in-law had left the trap set.) Don't know how long he'd been in there, but he was quite pissed off.

It was a Sunday afternoon and we still had a five hour drive, so I was intent on just letting him out, but I couldn't get the door unlatched.

After a few minutes of frustration, the rear window on my truck lowers for me to see my wife handing me a pistol. She looks at me and says "Coyotes gotta eat too." I quickly dispatched the hog and let my toddler have a look before dragging it into the brush.

A few weeks later, back at home, I was drinking ice water from a Rib Crib cup…you know, the ones with the pig silhouette on the side.

My kiddo comes into the room, takes one look at that cup, and says "Feed the coyotes, Daddy?" Feed the coyotes?"

eric76 said:

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SGrem said:

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I live on a lil 1/2 mile long street that backs up to Dickinson Bayou watershed with a cattle pasture behind the houses. My house is at the dead end of the street. One of the neighbors half way down throws scraps over the fence for the coyotes. I tell them thank you gives me live target practice and I've shot a couple dozen. They said pls don't shoot them they like to see them.... i said no chance as they attack the neighborhood pets including goats and chickens and mini horses and whatever. So i keep shooting and they keep attracting.... idiots.

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I have never seen a coyote that I wanted hanging around the house.

When I was in high school, trapping coyotes was a thing for some people around here. I knew one guy who made his spending money during college by hunting coyotes.

But then, he trapped and killed a coyote and hand raised her pup. According to him, that coyote pup was smarter than any dog he ever had. He liked it so much that he quit hunting coyotes because of it.

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I had a family member that used to be the education director at the Texas Zoo in Victoria. They took in an orphaned coyote pup and raised it. They had it obedience trained like a dog and would take it around to schools and other places for education programs. Kooza was super smart and loved attention. She was just a big happy lap dog when you would let her be one.

This is one of the dumbest ideas I've heard lately. IF YOU FEED THEM, they will come.

Get a bigger dog, and maybe a faster cat, or move back into the city, idiots.

eric76 said:

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In the 1950's or 1960's, someone around here found a coyote in a pasture that covered about four sections. They chased it with their pickup and every time it started to get near a fence, they would cut it off and turn it in a different direction.

After a bit, it just fell over dead. I have been told that they had run him so hard and non-stop that he had a heart attack.

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Not believing a word of this based on this guy's experience:

SGrem said:

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I live on a lil 1/2 mile long street that backs up to Dickinson Bayou watershed with a cattle pasture behind the houses. My house is at the dead end of the street. One of the neighbors half way down throws scraps over the fence for the coyotes. I tell them thank you gives me live target practice and I've shot a couple dozen. They said pls don't shoot them they like to see them.... i said no chance as they attack the neighborhood pets including goats and chickens and mini horses and whatever. So i keep shooting and they keep attracting.... idiots.

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One of the few animals I'll gut shoot for the purpose of a 100% kill

I feed the feral cats I catch to the pack. I know where they hang out close by. I encourage building a feline taste in the pack. I'm in city limits so no shooting.

txags92 said:

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eric76 said:

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SGrem said:

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I live on a lil 1/2 mile long street that backs up to Dickinson Bayou watershed with a cattle pasture behind the houses. My house is at the dead end of the street. One of the neighbors half way down throws scraps over the fence for the coyotes. I tell them thank you gives me live target practice and I've shot a couple dozen. They said pls don't shoot them they like to see them.... i said no chance as they attack the neighborhood pets including goats and chickens and mini horses and whatever. So i keep shooting and they keep attracting.... idiots.

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I have never seen a coyote that I wanted hanging around the house.

When I was in high school, trapping coyotes was a thing for some people around here. I knew one guy who made his spending money during college by hunting coyotes.

But then, he trapped and killed a coyote and hand raised her pup. According to him, that coyote pup was smarter than any dog he ever had. He liked it so much that he quit hunting coyotes because of it.

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I had a family member that used to be the education director at the Texas Zoo in Victoria. They took in an orphaned coyote pup and raised it. They had it obedience trained like a dog and would take it around to schools and other places for education programs. Kooza was super smart and loved attention. She was just a big happy lap dog when you would let her be one.

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When were they the Ed Director? That's one of the zoos I worked at in the past….

zooguy96 said:

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txags92 said:

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eric76 said:

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SGrem said:

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I live on a lil 1/2 mile long street that backs up to Dickinson Bayou watershed with a cattle pasture behind the houses. My house is at the dead end of the street. One of the neighbors half way down throws scraps over the fence for the coyotes. I tell them thank you gives me live target practice and I've shot a couple dozen. They said pls don't shoot them they like to see them.... i said no chance as they attack the neighborhood pets including goats and chickens and mini horses and whatever. So i keep shooting and they keep attracting.... idiots.

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I have never seen a coyote that I wanted hanging around the house.

When I was in high school, trapping coyotes was a thing for some people around here. I knew one guy who made his spending money during college by hunting coyotes.

But then, he trapped and killed a coyote and hand raised her pup. According to him, that coyote pup was smarter than any dog he ever had. He liked it so much that he quit hunting coyotes because of it.

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I had a family member that used to be the education director at the Texas Zoo in Victoria. They took in an orphaned coyote pup and raised it. They had it obedience trained like a dog and would take it around to schools and other places for education programs. Kooza was super smart and loved attention. She was just a big happy lap dog when you would let her be one.

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When were they the Ed Director? That's one of the zoos I worked at in the past….

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Mid 80s to early 90s.

txags92 said:

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txags92 said:

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eric76 said:

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SGrem said:

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I live on a lil 1/2 mile long street that backs up to Dickinson Bayou watershed with a cattle pasture behind the houses. My house is at the dead end of the street. One of the neighbors half way down throws scraps over the fence for the coyotes. I tell them thank you gives me live target practice and I've shot a couple dozen. They said pls don't shoot them they like to see them.... i said no chance as they attack the neighborhood pets including goats and chickens and mini horses and whatever. So i keep shooting and they keep attracting.... idiots.

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I have never seen a coyote that I wanted hanging around the house.

When I was in high school, trapping coyotes was a thing for some people around here. I knew one guy who made his spending money during college by hunting coyotes.

But then, he trapped and killed a coyote and hand raised her pup. According to him, that coyote pup was smarter than any dog he ever had. He liked it so much that he quit hunting coyotes because of it.

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I had a family member that used to be the education director at the Texas Zoo in Victoria. They took in an orphaned coyote pup and raised it. They had it obedience trained like a dog and would take it around to schools and other places for education programs. Kooza was super smart and loved attention. She was just a big happy lap dog when you would let her be one.

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When were they the Ed Director? That's one of the zoos I worked at in the past….

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Mid 80s to early 90s.

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Oh, ok. I didn't work there until '01… right after the big flood. So, I didn't know the person.

So a lot of people actually have this mentality.....about hogs. They feed so they can try to pattern em and shoot them thinking they can start to lower the numbers. Feeding hogs is worse than feeding coyotes....

See them all the time in Richardson. This one was at the office. One day I watched one look both ways multiple times and cross a 6 lane road only after the way was clear of cars. They do a great job with the rabbits and roadkill squirrels.

SGrem said:

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I live on a lil 1/2 mile long street that backs up to Dickinson Bayou watershed with a cattle pasture behind the houses. My house is at the dead end of the street. One of the neighbors half way down throws scraps over the fence for the coyotes. I tell them thank you gives me live target practice and I've shot a couple dozen. They said pls don't shoot them they like to see them.... i said no chance as they attack the neighborhood pets including goats and chickens and mini horses and whatever. So i keep shooting and they keep attracting.... idiots.

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And nothing changes as the studies show.

Feed em lead.

eric76 said:

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What do you think about someone wanting to feed the coyotes so that they don't have to eat pets to survive?

https://www.change.org/p/implement-feeding-programs-for-wild-coyotes-by-city-park-rangers

From the petition:

Quote:

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Wild coyotes are a part of our ecosystem. Biologists estimate that there could be up to a million coyotes residing in North America (Source: Humane Society). As our cities expand, the natural habitat of these creatures shrinks, challenging their ability to feed themselves adequately, and more often than not, leading them to prey on our domesticated pets.

I urge our cities to implement feeding programs managed by park rangers to proactively reduce these incidents. Introducing these feeding programs is not only beneficial for the safety of our pets but also crucial for preserving wildlife. It's a balanced solution where humans, pets, and wildlife can coexist.

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That sounds like a big city Democrat -- spend money to make the problem worse.

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Please, "trust the science", and read the book Coyote America.

They cannot be eradicated. Multiple generations have tried and they're the only species that has given homeo sapiens the finger.

Bird Poo said:

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eric76 said:

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What do you think about someone wanting to feed the coyotes so that they don't have to eat pets to survive?

https://www.change.org/p/implement-feeding-programs-for-wild-coyotes-by-city-park-rangers

From the petition:

Quote:

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Wild coyotes are a part of our ecosystem. Biologists estimate that there could be up to a million coyotes residing in North America (Source: Humane Society). As our cities expand, the natural habitat of these creatures shrinks, challenging their ability to feed themselves adequately, and more often than not, leading them to prey on our domesticated pets.

I urge our cities to implement feeding programs managed by park rangers to proactively reduce these incidents. Introducing these feeding programs is not only beneficial for the safety of our pets but also crucial for preserving wildlife. It's a balanced solution where humans, pets, and wildlife can coexist.

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That sounds like a big city Democrat -- spend money to make the problem worse.

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Please, "trust the science", and read the book Coyote America.

They cannot be eradicated. Multiple generations have tried and they're the only species that has given homeo sapiens the finger.

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You've obviously never heard of the Great Emu War, Australia in the 1930s. Spoiler, the emus won.

Not trying to eradicate at all. It's all about balance. But can for sure move them away from my house where pets (large and small) and little people live for however long a length of time till new ones show up. I pressure them and shoot some and then the problems of missing animals goes away for however long till some more come thru.... shoot them immediately.... rinse repeat.

I don't think anyone has misconception of any possibility of eradicating.

Bird Poo said:

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eric76 said:

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What do you think about someone wanting to feed the coyotes so that they don't have to eat pets to survive?

https://www.change.org/p/implement-feeding-programs-for-wild-coyotes-by-city-park-rangers

From the petition:

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Wild coyotes are a part of our ecosystem. Biologists estimate that there could be up to a million coyotes residing in North America (Source: Humane Society). As our cities expand, the natural habitat of these creatures shrinks, challenging their ability to feed themselves adequately, and more often than not, leading them to prey on our domesticated pets.

I urge our cities to implement feeding programs managed by park rangers to proactively reduce these incidents. Introducing these feeding programs is not only beneficial for the safety of our pets but also crucial for preserving wildlife. It's a balanced solution where humans, pets, and wildlife can coexist.

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That sounds like a big city Democrat -- spend money to make the problem worse.

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Please, "trust the science", and read the book Coyote America.

They cannot be eradicated. Multiple generations have tried and they're the only species that has given homeo sapiens the finger.

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Exactly. And feeding them will just increase the numbers of them.

It's like the old cycle: more coyotes leads to fewer rabbits -> fewer rabbits leads to fewer coyotes -> fewer coyotes leads to more rabbits -> more rabbits leads to more coyotes -> ... .

Disclaimer: I'm not sure that the above is true in anything but theory. We always seem to have plenty of both.

It might be worth feeding them, though, to get more coyotes to hold the jackrabbit population under better control. One Sunday after church in the 1950s, we had a rabbit drive in our neighborhood in which the boys and men rounded up rabbits into a small area and clubbed them to death.

The following photograph is from Kansas, not my community, but it is a good example of a rabbit drive:






Article with the above pictures is at: https://www.outdoorlife.com/hunting/dust-bowl-jackrabbit-drives/

Holy crud!

Those rabbit ffoot keychains in the 50's had to come from somewhere!

That's amazing I had no idea. Dad from northern Oklahoma. I'm going to question him about this. He was born in 39 so maybe saw one.

Build It said:

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Those rabbit ffoot keychains in the 50's had to come from somewhere!

That's amazing I had no idea. Dad from northern Oklahoma. I'm going to question him about this. He was born in 39 so maybe saw one.

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He's maybe about 5 or 6 years older than my sister who was about 11 or 12 at the we had one in our community -- actually in a pasture of ours -- so even if he didn't attend one, he might well have heard or read about them.