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What is a fallow deer?

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2wealfth Man
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Reading an article about 308 ammo and the author refers to a fallow buck he shot here in Texas.

Here is a pic he posted in the article:

General Jack D. Ripper
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I believe they're from Iran. Beautiful creatures. I saw some crazy albino ones once.
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SGrem
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Texas caribou with the great palmations.

They have several color phases from dark dark brown all the way to white and can be spotted in different parts of their body. Funky Adam's apple too.... great critters.
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Fallow were originally from the Mediterranean region-Turkey and Balkan Peninsula. Also Asian Minor-Palestine.
Due to popular hunting were imported to the UK, New Zealand etc. …. then to the U.S.
Their common color variations are white ( Not Albino), tan/light brown with white spots, dark brown with very light spots (typically called Chocolate.).
Color is determined by the male upon breeding…. So the fawns will be whatever color their daddy's are… regardless of the doe color.
Mature males can be very aggressive to other males during rut and oftentimes will fight to exhaustion or death. That's why, unless raised in controlled pens, it is hard to get really big mature fallows.
Very dark meat that some folks like and some don't…. just depends on the person.
The males make a unique " grunting pig" sound during rut and will pee on themselves profusely (legs, stomach, neck) during same.
Very beautiful animals that if allowed to mature will grow very wide palmations.
Buck Turgidson
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My experience (I've shot four Fallow) is that they are not super wary and will just look at you as if to say "what the hell are you looking at?". They make great looking shoulder mounts and the spotted ones have really nice hides. Hunt 'em early in the season before they break off a bunch of the little points around the edges of the palms fighting.
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Are these wild or mainly high fenced?
Gunny456
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Lots under high fence in Texas but like many of the exotics that have got out from some ranches and occasionally you might see one free range.
Gunny456
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It depends on the size of the herd and number of bucks vs does I think. We wanted to really manage our numbers so on our ranch we kept few does and stair stepped our bucks in age. In the two sections we had a total herd of only around 10-11. The old males would become very solitary and aloof and we might go a long term without seeing them.
But in rut they were more worried about fighting than being wary and became plumb dumb.
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lawless89
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We've had fallow for almost 30 years and they are really cool animals. Used to have several dozen, but 20 years ago we had a spotted fallow buck in a back pen area that we raised from a fawn that was "tame". One day my dad went in there to turn on a sprinkler and was plowed over by the deer and my dad had 19 puncture wounds from head to toe. Many wound went very deep including all the way through his legs and arms. Fortunately he survived, but we did get rid of 90% of our animals after that.
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damn
Buck Turgidson
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Gunny456 said:

Lots under high fence in Texas but like many of the exotics that have got out from some ranches and occasionally you might see one free range.
Funny story - a college buddy of mine had about 100 acres (low fenced) outside Boerne and you never knew what would walk across his property. They had plenty of free range axis and somebody shot a white Fallow out there one year. They even saw a probable Mouflon ram crossing the property once.
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Wow.
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Gunny456 said:

Fallow were originally from the Mediterranean region-Turkey and Balkan Peninsula. Also Asian Minor-Palestine.
Due to popular hunting were imported to the UK, New Zealand etc. …. then to the U.S.
Their common color variations are white ( Not Albino), tan/light brown with white spots, dark brown with very light spots (typically called Chocolate.).
Color is determined by the male upon breeding…. So the fawns will be whatever color their daddy's are… regardless of the doe color.
Mature males can be very aggressive to other males during rut and oftentimes will fight to exhaustion or death. That's why, unless raised in controlled pens, it is hard to get really big mature fallows.
Very dark meat that some folks like and some don't…. just depends on the person.
The males make a unique " grunting pig" sound during rut and will pee on themselves profusely (legs, stomach, neck) during same.
Very beautiful animals that if allowed to mature will grow very wide palmations.
I alway think of them from northern Europe countries historical hunting clubs and the rituals that go along.
HTownAg98
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I think they're used a lot in meat farms. There used to be a venison producer south of the ranch I hunt on, and they had fallow deer.
texag84
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We have white fallows on our place. Funny - they think they are all stealthy slipping through the brush / woods, but man, that white sticks out like a sore thumb.
Gunny456
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I had a good friend that owned a Pontiac dealership in SA. He had quite a ranch outside Boerne. He had a spotted Fallow buck that he had kinda hand fed since he was young. Every morning before leaving for work he would poor some protein pellets in a rubber pan for him.
He got older and good size with great antlers.
One morning Henry was in a hurry and was trying to get in his truck and shoved the falllow out of the way.
As he turned his back the buck stuck him hard and penned him down. He had punctured kidney and all kinds of stuff. His wife came out and got him away… he almost died from it.
First thing he did when he got home from the hospital was give the old buck a dirt nap.
At the end of the day they are animals and can get real goofy during rut.
Gunny456
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Roger that. We got rid of all our white ones. They were always prime poacher targets!
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Gunny456 said:

I had a good friend that owned a Pontiac dealership in SA. He had quite a ranch outside Boerne. He had a spotted Fallow buck that he had kinda hand fed since he was young. Every morning before leaving for work he would poor some protein pellets in a rubber pan for him.
He got older and good size with great antlers.
One morning Henry was in a hurry and was trying to get in his truck and shoved the falllow out of the way.
As he turned his back the buck stuck him hard and penned him down. He had punctured kidney and all kinds of stuff. His wife came out and got him away… he almost died from it.
First thing he did when he got home from the hospital was give the old buck a dirt nap.
At the end of the day they are animals and can get real goofy during rut.


Good ol' Henry T. As kids we hunted deer and dove at his place out near Hondo a few times. I remember a picture of him with a black buck that he took with a revolver.
lawless89
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Crazy. Dads happened during the rut too. And he had just had rotator cuff surgery so he had very little strength to hold it off of him. Deer was injured during velvet so he had a longer single antler on one side and that went all the way into my dad's chest cavity and punctured the sac that lines the outside of your heart.

We had buffalo and elk at the time too and are thankful it didn't happen with one of those. Wild animals are still wild animals!
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Buck Turgidson said:

Gunny456 said:

Lots under high fence in Texas but like many of the exotics that have got out from some ranches and occasionally you might see one free range.
Funny story - a college buddy of mine had about 100 acres (low fenced) outside Boerne and you never knew what would walk across his property. They had plenty of free range axis and somebody shot a white Fallow out there one year. They even saw a probable Mouflon ram crossing the property once.
We have a little over 50 acres SE of Bergheim and the story I heard was that back in the 50s and 60s, there was a large exotic ranch about where Fair Oaks is now. Supposedly sometime in the late 60s, a storm came through and knocked down a bunch of their fence, releasing all manner of exotics that have created free roaming herds now. We routinely see quite a few axis deer and the lady whose father lived next door and just passed away told us over the weekend that she saw about 30 axis on their 50 acre property when she was there a few weeks ago. That property might be for sale in the next year or so BTW and she is determined to make sure it doesn't get bought by a developer.

I used to do work at Camp Bullis, and they have a decent sized herd of axis that mostly hangs out in the Salado Creek watershed down near the Cantonment area. They also supposedly have Mouflon and Aoudad too, but I never saw any.
Gunny456
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Yep. His dad and my dad were great long time friends.
Small world.
Buck Turgidson
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If that neighboring property goes up for sale, please let us know. I would like to take a look at it (for personal use - not to develop).
txags92
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Buck Turgidson said:

If that neighboring property goes up for sale, please let us know. I would like to take a look at it (for personal use - not to develop).
I was already planning to try to get it into the hands of somebody on here. Just be aware though, the market value on it with the CAD is currently $1.8MM.
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Here's mine from a few months ago, my first. Gorgeous. From Wendy Lou north of Waco, great place. They taste similar to whitetail, not as good as axis but very edible. I opted for euro and I'm getting a rug made from the white hide.


Gunny456
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Very nice sir. Very nice.
2wealfth Man
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Damn
Buck Turgidson
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Nice palms
aggiesundevil4
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Thanks! he's fast become one of my favorite trophies.
I got him processed at Arnold Meat processing in Hempstead (OB recommendation) and their stuff is great!
Pro Sandy
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Mine from when I was 16 and still had a head full of hair

highvelocity
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One of mine that's mounted in the office. Have another that is waiting for pick up at the taxidermist. Great eating and pretty animals
Furlock Bones
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Here's mine
Gunny456
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Furlock…..Really nice animal sir. Beautiful mount also.
ttha_aggie_09
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I need to shoot a fallow but don't need another mount…
BlueSmoke
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ttha_aggie_09 said:

I need to shoot a fallow but don't need another mount…
Blasphemy!

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