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Hunting Story (fail) - Colorado 2024

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Bob Sympkins
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Headed back from western Colorado in a 2nd rifle deer hunt east of Grand Junction. I have to laugh to keep from getting infuriated constantly but I say all of the following to share the advice of doing your research before diving in.

I've hunted mule deer 5 times in 3 different states and have only been successful 2 of those hunts. So by no means an expert but have enough experience to where I felt okay doing another DIY.

Got hooked up with a landowner through an outfitter promoting this guy had 2nd rifle deer vouchers that included a cabin with access direct into public and less than a mile from the trailhead. Also was going to come with a 4wheeler to use for the week. So me and buddy jumped on it. The guy has a couple hundred acres with "10 shooter bucks and 3 that are really good" that we planned to get my buddy (who had never hunter mule deer before) a deer on and I would focus on public. This was over the summer.

Fast forward to Friday. We get to the cabin and it's disgusting. Has no coffee maker, paper towels, dish soap, hand soap, etc. Power comes in and out sporadically. Advertised with WiFi (didn't work) and had a TV with 2 remotes (neither of which were for that tv). Thousands of flies (dead and alive). 5-6 dogs, 3 goats, 2 cats all roaming free and at least half of them entered the cabin at different times. I will pause to say that we are by no means high maintenance. We honestly would have rather packed in and camped in the unit for proximity to hunting areas we wanted to focus on. But when the majority of the voucher cost was towards the lodging (and certain things are advertised), you expect those things and so was not off to a good start.

4wheeler (as was told) was not included so we were confined to my truck to trailheads and going in on foot. Strike 2.

Which leads me to the "moral of the story" and that is do your research. I assumed a voucher for a deer tag made it somewhat valuable. But come to find out, it is a no point required draw unit for deer. It is also an OTC elk unit for 2nd rifle. So needless to say, there were hunters everywhere you looked. And not having the 4wheeler killed us due to the fact that their are a large number of two track trails throughout the entire unit that everyone else is utilizing. The weather has been unseasonably warm/dry, so there were other factors out of anyone's control at play. But needless to say, we had tag soup. Did not see a single deer on the property with "10 shooter bucks" . Even had the guy send me a photo before we arrived of a buck (implying it was on his place). Come to find out, it was taken of a deer on a property about 20 minutes from his place on an alfalfa field. Feel like we were boondoggled a little bit between the cabin, type of deer, value of having his property to access public (every other landowner in the vicinity does the same thing).

But just wanted to pass along a pretty terrible experience to hopefully help someone else dig in more and do some recon for making an impulse decision on a seemingly good deal. We saw 13 deer total the entire time and only 1 buck. He was a shooter and tried to get set up on him but fed up into some junipers out of sight before we could get a gun on him. Happy to share further info if interested just shoot me a DM. Best of luck to everyone else the rest of the fall/winter!
txaggie02
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The guy has a couple hundred acres with "10 shooter bucks and 3 that are really good"
Man, that sucks. That being said, this should have been a massive red flag. You aren't going to see 10 shooter bucks on a couple hundred acres of free-range land anywhere in the world.
Bob Sympkins
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Agreed. That info was told us on Friday, though. So didn't technically weigh in on the the decision to take the vouchers. But just sheds some light on the quality of folks we were working with.
AggieLover1710
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Hey man, headed out to the Grand Mesa in a week! would love to pick your brain on your hunt. thanks. Email @ willtaylor1710@gmail.com
Bob Sympkins
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Email sent!
Micropterus
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Mind sharing that "outfitter's" name for the benefit of the group? You know, kinda like that Kevin Stubbs guy with Expedition Outfitters.
Hoyt Ag
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I'm sorry that happened to you. You need to post all parties info on here so we all know. I would also let the local CPW office know and post on Rokslide.

I tell people all the time to be super duper skeptical with these kinds of arrangements. 99.9% they are too good to be true. These landowners are greedy asses and it is getting no better.
Bob Sympkins
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Yup no problem at all

I guess they technically designate themselves as an outfitter, but don't know that he does any actual guiding but just accommodations and selling the vouchers he gets through Colorado's LPP

It's called Mountain Made Outfitters. And the guy who promoted the voucher and upsold it is named Cody Wallace and runs Wallace Outfitting.

I will never hunt an OTC or non limited draw unit again after this. Hopeful it just helps everyone do some serious digging before an impulse deal like I just went through!
Mas89
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Reminds me of an elk hunt East of Moffat we went on. The cabin wasn't bad but was pretty dirty with a bad smell we couldn't figure out. We tried fire in the fireplace, candles, open windows, etc but couldn't pinpoint the nasty smell after all failed. The third day we were there we started looking everywhere inside. There was a large plastic tub in the corner behind the large metal fireplace which heated the cabin. Inside was some litter and it was disgustingly full of cat chit.
We were the first hunters that fall and the owner said some family had stayed there several weeks in the summer and must have left it. They also had a large puppy mill at their residence closer to town and that area was equally disgusting.
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