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TX P&W rules: deer carcass disposal

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AgLA06 said:


Before complaining I'd suggest doing a little research on how things work. The new regs bring Texas up to date with the vast majority of the western big game hunting standards. Up until this year, Texas residents who were following the laws of other big game states in which they harvested animals were instantly in violation of Texas laws once reentering the state with harvested game.

Your complaining about and creating issues that don't exist in States that have been doing this on a bigger scale for a long time. This isn't 1922. With cooler progression and modern equipment there's no reason to ignorantly strap a deer to the hood of your studibaker while is spoils to drive home. And for most this doesn't change much of anything.

These laws came about in other states because they stress not wasting any meat and proper care of said meat until final processing. I personally hope more of those same standards ( and tickets / fines) start working their way into Texas code.

I have no idea how you are correlating anything in this thread, to the comments in your post, or the basis for the TX P&W new rules.
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OnlyForNow said:

Ya, I mean I do have a hand bone saw, but never use it.

I assume now-a-days folks are just using a sawzall to cut through the femur etc? And make bone in steaks?
I don't mess with bone in anything really, so not something I've ever had to deal with personally.

The vast majority of every deer I get ends up in a grind of some sort, whether for sausage, chili grind, breakfast sausage or just plain grind so it can be used for anything that ordinarily calls for ground beef (tacos, burgers, spaghetti, etc, etc, etc).

I've never done the osso buco. Heard of it, but just haven't had the desire to do it since I highly doubt my kids would eat it and it's doubtful my wife would either.
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AgLA06 said:

GSS said:

schmellba99 said:

GSS said:

I'm a rare one, I bring my deer home from our family ranch, field dressed, and completely process at my house (shop).
One posting said "don't cut through any bones", which defies any long held processing methods.
I don't cut through any bones processing a deer. The only time I do is when I"m skinning it and I cut the hooves off each leg. Other than that, zero bones are cut up in the process.
I should have clarified, at a minimum cutting off the leg bones is part of what I consider "processing".

AND a few years ago a fellow hunter mentioned using deer shank cuts, for venison "Osso Buco", which come out incredible, for a part of the deer most send to the sausage pile...
Osso Buco using deer shank pieces
You can process at joints instead of cutting bones quite easily for quartering an animal.

I suppose I could leave the hoof and what not on the quarters, but why would I? Cut that off, makes it easier to fit the quarters in the ice chest and I don't have to worry about contaminating the meat with whatever is on the hooves. In my case it would be a mixture of river bottom/swamp gumbo mud and cow sht.
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So what you're saying is, no stopping on the bridge and throwing them in the Brazos river?
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GSS said:

AgLA06 said:


Before complaining I'd suggest doing a little research on how things work. The new regs bring Texas up to date with the vast majority of the western big game hunting standards. Up until this year, Texas residents who were following the laws of other big game states in which they harvested animals were instantly in violation of Texas laws once reentering the state with harvested game.

Your complaining about and creating issues that don't exist in States that have been doing this on a bigger scale for a long time. This isn't 1922. With cooler progression and modern equipment there's no reason to ignorantly strap a deer to the hood of your studibaker while is spoils to drive home. And for most this doesn't change much of anything.

These laws came about in other states because they stress not wasting any meat and proper care of said meat until final processing. I personally hope more of those same standards ( and tickets / fines) start working their way into Texas code.

I have no idea how you are correlating anything in this thread, to the comments in your post, or the basis for the TX P&W new rules.


If I understand correctly it's the fact that previously if I were to debone an elk in the mountains and bring it back home in Texas, as soon as I entered Texas state boundaries I was in violation of the law that animals must be processed to no less than quarters until its final destination. With the rule change it should now be legal to do this. And it's a lot easier packing down a boneless elk out of the mountains for sure !
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I don't believe the laws applied to animals brought in from other states, or at least that was never the intent. It was specific for game animals harvested in Texas.

You can't apply Texas laws to Colorado game handling, and vice versa.
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See this is why guys end up living together making their wives live together with their worthless children. Because I would certainly try it, but my wife and kids wouldn't.

BTW, no homo
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The biologist we work with said that the landowner signed MLD tag counts as proof of sex, so we go with that.
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OnlyForNow
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I mean, is there anything stopping me from bringing home the ball sack or vag of the deer instead of it's head if I don't want to bring the head home
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Nope. Suggested in other states.
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schmellba99 said:

I don't believe the laws applied to animals brought in from other states, or at least that was never the intent. It was specific for game animals harvested in Texas.

You can't apply Texas laws to Colorado game handling, and vice versa.


It's been a common question the last decade. While often asked TP&W wouldn't clarify that. And as many species overlap and slapping a tag doesn't prove where it came from. It only said possession.
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Has there ever been a citation issued by a game warden to somebody driving down the road from NM or CO or wherever because they had deboned elk (which is not a game animal in Texas, BTW) in ice chests?
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GSS said:

AgLA06 said:


Before complaining I'd suggest doing a little research on how things work. The new regs bring Texas up to date with the vast majority of the western big game hunting standards. Up until this year, Texas residents who were following the laws of other big game states in which they harvested animals were instantly in violation of Texas laws once reentering the state with harvested game.

Your complaining about and creating issues that don't exist in States that have been doing this on a bigger scale for a long time. This isn't 1922. With cooler progression and modern equipment there's no reason to ignorantly strap a deer to the hood of your studibaker while is spoils to drive home. And for most this doesn't change much of anything.

These laws came about in other states because they stress not wasting any meat and proper care of said meat until final processing. I personally hope more of those same standards ( and tickets / fines) start working their way into Texas code.

I have no idea how you are correlating anything in this thread, to the comments in your post, or the basis for the TX P&W new rules.


Other states encourage deboning of meat because they want you to harvest meat that is often tossed in Texas. Neck, rib, flank, etc. Texas laws previously wouldn't allow deboning.
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schmellba99 said:

AgLA06 said:


You can process at joints instead of cutting bones quite easily for quartering an animal.

I suppose I could leave the hoof and what not on the quarters, but why would I? Cut that off, makes it easier to fit the quarters in the ice chest and I don't have to worry about contaminating the meat with whatever is on the hooves. In my case it would be a mixture of river bottom/swamp gumbo mud and cow sht.
You can cut through the joints to remove the distal legs, without cutting through bones. You just cut the ligaments that hold the joints together. Once you get the hang of it, it's probably easier than cutting through the bone.
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Hodor said:

schmellba99 said:

AgLA06 said:


You can process at joints instead of cutting bones quite easily for quartering an animal.

I suppose I could leave the hoof and what not on the quarters, but why would I? Cut that off, makes it easier to fit the quarters in the ice chest and I don't have to worry about contaminating the meat with whatever is on the hooves. In my case it would be a mixture of river bottom/swamp gumbo mud and cow sht.
You can cut through the joints to remove the distal legs, without cutting through bones. You just cut the ligaments that hold the joints together. Once you get the hang of it, it's probably easier than cutting through the bone.

Nahh, I have loppers at the lease and cut the bones in the legs in about 3-4 seconds. I'm good.
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schmellba99 said:

Hodor said:

schmellba99 said:

AgLA06 said:


You can process at joints instead of cutting bones quite easily for quartering an animal.

I suppose I could leave the hoof and what not on the quarters, but why would I? Cut that off, makes it easier to fit the quarters in the ice chest and I don't have to worry about contaminating the meat with whatever is on the hooves. In my case it would be a mixture of river bottom/swamp gumbo mud and cow sht.
You can cut through the joints to remove the distal legs, without cutting through bones. You just cut the ligaments that hold the joints together. Once you get the hang of it, it's probably easier than cutting through the bone.

Nahh, I have loppers at the lease and cut the bones in the legs in about 3-4 seconds. I'm good.
Nothing wrong with that. Just pointing out that the prior poster wasn't telling you to leave the hooves on the way you were interpreting it.
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My dog and clear creek blue crabs are not going to like this rule.
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AgLA06 said:

GSS said:

AgLA06 said:


Before complaining I'd suggest doing a little research on how things work. The new regs bring Texas up to date with the vast majority of the western big game hunting standards. Up until this year, Texas residents who were following the laws of other big game states in which they harvested animals were instantly in violation of Texas laws once reentering the state with harvested game.

Your complaining about and creating issues that don't exist in States that have been doing this on a bigger scale for a long time. This isn't 1922. With cooler progression and modern equipment there's no reason to ignorantly strap a deer to the hood of your studibaker while is spoils to drive home. And for most this doesn't change much of anything.

These laws came about in other states because they stress not wasting any meat and proper care of said meat until final processing. I personally hope more of those same standards ( and tickets / fines) start working their way into Texas code.

I have no idea how you are correlating anything in this thread, to the comments in your post, or the basis for the TX P&W new rules.


Other states encourage deboning of meat because they want you to harvest meat that is often tossed in Texas. Neck, rib, flank, etc. Texas laws previously wouldn't allow deboning.
And, you would be wrong..
"Can I still quarter deer?
Absolutely. Quarters (two front quarters, two hind quarters, backstraps, and trimmings) can still be transported away from the property of harvest,"

TX P&W issued this decree, based on CWD concerns, and made concessions regarding transport of venison, and somehow you spun it into a lecture about strapping deer to the car hood, and Texans wasting deer meat.
You are incredibly naive if you think the common commercial processor strips off as much of the "neck, rib, flank, etc" meat as an individual could, or does.
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I can't wade thru all of this. Would someone please tell me if I'm able to field dress my deer in Van Horn, tie it to the hood of my Lincoln, and drive home to Houston?
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How about we start with banning the folks who raise deer like cattle first……
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JYDog90 said:

I can't wade thru all of this. Would someone please tell me if I'm able to field dress my deer in Van Horn, tie it to the hood of my Lincoln, and drive home to Houston?


Yes, you can. You just have to throw the carcass away at a commercial trash facility, bury it 3 feet deep, or take it back to the property it was killed on.
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If warden wasn't permitted to conduct unconstitutional searches, none of this would be relevant.
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AgLA06 said:

schmellba99 said:

I don't believe the laws applied to animals brought in from other states, or at least that was never the intent. It was specific for game animals harvested in Texas.

You can't apply Texas laws to Colorado game handling, and vice versa.


It's been a common question the last decade. While often asked TP&W wouldn't clarify that. And as many species overlap and slapping a tag doesn't prove where it came from. It only said possession.


I called the local office who referred me to two local wardens and neither gave me a straight answer over the phone. So who knows. It's a moot point now.
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"Carcass Disposal"

I prefer "the deceased" and a Christian burial is the preferred language versus 3 feet below the ground ….

No respect
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JYDog90 said:

I can't wade thru all of this. Would someone please tell me if I'm able to field dress my deer in Van Horn, tie it to the hood of my Lincoln, and drive home to Houston?
Yes, but only if you mount the antlers like a hood ornament.
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