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Hunter Attacked, Severely Bitten By Grizzly In… | Cowboy State Daily

Another archery hunter has been attacked by a Grizzly, this time near Pinedale WY. He was able to kill the bear but is in the hospital being treated for 3-inch deep bite wounds. Amazingly to me, his Glock 10mm jammed during the incident but he was able to clear the jam and kill the bear. This was the fourth incident during this archery season and there was a fifth one this past July where a man picking berries in northern MT was charged by a grizzly and defended himself. In all five cases the men were carrying sidearms. The scorecard shows two wounded men, four dead plus one wounded bear.

The man who was just attacked is from Georgia and was hunting with a friend who lives in Wyoming, and this is the second time that friend has experienced a grizzly attack while hunting. These attacks are becoming more common than they were just a few years ago. Wyoming's governor (Mark Gordon) had a handshake agreement with the US Fish and Wildlife Service that grizzlies would be delisted this year. But of course, the Save the Yellowstone Grizzly foundation filed suit and now that decision will have to be litigated.

What makes this case unusual is that normally the local media will protect the identity of anyone who shoots a bear but this time the guy was willing to talk. The man who was just attacked is said to be a really good guy. His friend is quoted in the article as saying that he doesn't even cuss. I have to wonder it that's still the case after his pistol jammed. I know Glocks are famous for their reliability but the last time I shot one I had two spent cartridges stove pipe while being ejected. I think I'll stick with revolvers.
normaleagle05
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Clearing an action while a grizzly is getting down to the business of eating you living has got to be an adrenaline dump like NOTHING else. Muscle memory...You mean meat memory?
regularjoe
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Wild! Can't believe the hunter sat there and let the grizzly and two cubs get that close. Maybe he lost sight of them and they appeared that close.
McInnis
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Yeah, I think I would be yelling or maybe sending a warning shot her way before I let her get with 10 yards. Surprising a grizzly at close quarters usually isn't a good idea.

Maybe he didn't want to spook elk out of the area, but at some point you have to get priorities straight.
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AgRyan04
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Yeah, I thought that was the craziest part of that story....I could see maybe doing that if she was walking a different direction but to McInnis's point, at some point you have to choose the safe call
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This article has a follow up interview with the hunter. He says that his Glock jammed a second time, after the final shot. Said he never felt pain while the bear was attacking him which seems pretty common during these attacks. I guess the adrenaline rush blocks it out. He also said he doesn't think he would have survived if he had used pepper spray instead of a gun but doesn't say why he feels that way. It seems that this could have been a good time to have both spray and a gun since he had time (I always carry both). Maybe he could have blasted the bear with his off hand using spray, at 20 yards, and had his gun ready in his strong hand in case. But I wasn't there, he could have been facing a wind and that makes the use of bear spray pretty dicey. In fact since the bear didn't smell him until it was so close, a head wind would make sense.

Hunter Who Survived Wyoming Grizzly Attack Says "It Felt Like A…

The article above said this is the third attack this archery season but I think it's the fourth. The article below, from a couple of weeks ago said there had already been three at the time, two in Idaho and one in Montana. This was the first one in Wyoming this year. In 2020 an archery hunter shot and killed a bear on Rattlesnake Mountain about 5 miles west of Cody.

Rocky Mountain Grizzlies Keep Getting Shot By Bowhunters With Handguns

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909Ag2006
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"Rocky Mountain Grizzlies Keep Getting Shot By Bowhunters With Handguns" -- What a ridiculous headline. My lord, the state of "journalism" in our country is absolute garbage.
"They weren't raiding a Girl Scout troop looking for overdue library books."
AggiePetro07
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Easy to limp wrist it when your forearm is being chewed off.
BlueSmoke
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Bears doing bear sh*t
arrow
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I just got back from my Wyoming archery hunt. We saw 7 grizzlies the first day. A buddy ended up having a sow with a cub at close range on a mule trail. She growled but walked away. Wyoming desperately needs to open a grizzly bear season.
Sooner Born
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Nothing to see here. Just both parties exercising their 2nd amendment rights.
DoitBest
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arrow said:

I just got back from my Wyoming archery hunt.

User name checks out...
Serious Lee
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i can see why the 10mm has gained popularity in recent years
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AggiePetro07 said:

Easy to limp wrist it when your forearm is being chewed off.
And you are mag-dumping 10mm out of a polymer framed pistol.
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Curious if he was more upset for killing the griz or cussing...
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Sooner Born said:

Nothing to see here. Just both parties exercising their 2nd amendment rights.


Well done.
McInnis
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The CowboyState Daily has run another follow up on the story, this one deals with the cause of the Glock jamming. I was hoping that someone had tested it and made a determination but it's really just speculation. The story says it's most likely an ammo issue. And the experts say that it wasn't really a jam but a failure to feed. More likely a failure to eject would be my guess based on my really limited experience with Glocks. But how would that not be considered a jam?

https://ctrk.klclick.com/l/01J93VT6Z7HJSHTD8ZG9JSNN4F_23
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I have an update on this, with a personal bit of data.

https://www.wyomingnews.com/news/local_news/father-and-son-recall-grizzly-attack/article_972bb8fa-a3ae-11ef-a92f-a766adffa497.html

The guy in this story (the father) is my chiropractor. I talked with him this morning, and got the rest of the story. Him and his 21 year old son were stalking a bull elk up a ridge about 30 miles southwest of Cody. They were just below tree line and his son had blown a cow call to try to turn a bull around they had just seen. They heard loud crashing of timber (scrub pines) above them and to their right. The dad was swinging around to see what was happening. About 4 yards away they saw the head of a bear coming at them in a hurry. In a flash he said he pictured having to shoot the bear while it was on top of the son, but the young man already had his Glock model 20 out of the holster and started firing.

He hit the bear 3 or 4 times and it collapsed and started rolling down the ridge when it was about two yards away. The father said he loudly encouraged his son to keep firing until he emptied the magazine, which he did. The bear ended up in thick brush and they could hear it breathing but since they couldn't see it, they hurried back to civilization. Three game wardens, a federal employee, and five hounds returned with them and found the bear that was now dead.

The game wardens told him that the bear had been captured and relocated from the DuBois area (south of the Tetons) earlier this year because of cattle deprivation. It had been released near Pahaska, close to Yellowstone's east entrance but didn't stay there. It was a sow, no cubs and so far as they could tell she had not been guarding a carcass. He speculated that perhaps being handled during the relocation had given her a bad feeling about people.

Earlier this year there was a debate on this forum about bear spray vs firearms for bear defense. It's easy to find articles quoting experts who opine that bear spray is more effective. As the article points out, they were facing a breeze and he said he didn't think it would have worked. Thank God that a 10mm did.
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