I keep seeing it stated that there is not any ammo available.

There has been more 300 PRC ammo at Academy than Winmag during the pandemic. It is adopted by all the major manufacturers. This simply is not true.

This is not a boutique cartridge like the others listed. It has been adopted and is here to stay.

Thaddeus Beauregard said:

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agsalaska said:

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.300 PRC is currently not available in any loadings at all from Winchester, Remington, or Federal.

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Granted, you're correct that it doesn't have the factory ammo support that .300 Win Mag does, but I said this in my first sentence, did I not?

Thaddeus Beauregard said:

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If you don't reload or plan to, get .300 Win mag.

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None of those are available and have not been for a while.

See Ammoseek.com. They have them on their website but are not in current production. Which is the problem.

JeremiahJohnson said:

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I keep seeing it stated that there is not any ammo available.

There has been more 300 PRC ammo at Academy than Winmag during the pandemic. It is adopted by all the major manufacturers. This simply is not true.

This is not a boutique cartridge like the others listed. It has been adopted and is here to stay.

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There is currently zero .300 PRC available online on Ammoseek from Winchester, Federal, or Remington. Those three companies are not currently producing .300 PRC. If they were producing it somebody would be selling it.

www.ammoseek.com

There was also a lot of .350 Legend during the pandemic.


If the three largest manufacturers of ammo in the US are not currently producing a cartridge that was only standardized six years ago, that would be the definition of a boutique cartridge. Whether or not it is here to stay or not is anybody's guess.

Winchester and Remington are not brands ammo brands i would buy in 2024. There are plenty of other better offerings.

People don't use the 215 grain bullet not sure who was making it for Federal but that's not a common grain size.

Barnes, Berger, Hornady, Weatherby, and Norma are all available.

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Winchester and Remington are not brands ammo brands i would buy in 2024. There are plenty of other better offerings.

People don't use the 215 grain bullet not sure who was making it for Federal but that's not a common grain size.

Barnes, Berger, and Hornady are all available.

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They are until they are not.


Whether or not you would use them or not is meaningless. You can laugh all you want, but if a round is going to survive long term it will need to be produced by the major manufacturers or it will eventually fade away.

agsalaska said:

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Thaddeus Beauregard said:

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agsalaska said:

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.300 PRC is currently not available in any loadings at all from Winchester, Remington, or Federal.

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Granted, you're correct that it doesn't have the factory ammo support that .300 Win Mag does, but I said this in my first sentence, did I not?

Thaddeus Beauregard said:

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If you don't reload or plan to, get .300 Win mag.

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None of those are available and have not been for a while.

See Ammoseek.com. They have them on their website but are not in current production. Which is the problem.

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.300 PRC and the PRCs in general are brand new cartridges. .300 Win Mag has a 55-year head start on .300 PRC. The situation could change in a matter of weeks. But you said "any loadings at all," which is misleading.

I'm not trying to make a case for either. The OP asked for advice on which of those two chambering to choose. I stated very clearly that if one doesn't reload, .300 Win Mag is the way to go. .300 Win Mag is a known commodity that has withstood the test of time. Since that kinda goes without saying, I simply explained why one might decide to go with .300 PRC instead since it's new and someone reading this might not understand its advantages, however slight, over .300 Win Mag. I spelled out the caveats involved with the decision. I explained my own rationale and my own risk assessment with the points being made. Others may disagree with my reasons and that's fine, but in a thread asking for advice, I thought they were compelling points to make.

Thaddeus Beauregard said:

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agsalaska said:

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Thaddeus Beauregard said:

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agsalaska said:

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.300 PRC is currently not available in any loadings at all from Winchester, Remington, or Federal.

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Granted, you're correct that it doesn't have the factory ammo support that .300 Win Mag does, but I said this in my first sentence, did I not?

Thaddeus Beauregard said:

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If you don't reload or plan to, get .300 Win mag.

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None of those are available and have not been for a while.

See Ammoseek.com. They have them on their website but are not in current production. Which is the problem.

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.300 PRC and the PRCs in general are brand new cartridges. .300 Win Mag has a 55-year head start on .300 PRC. The situation could change in a matter of weeks. But you said "any loadings at all," which is misleading.

I'm not trying to make a case for either. The OP asked for advice on which of those two chambering to choose. I stated very clearly that if one doesn't reload, .300 Win Mag is the way to go. .300 Win Mag is a known commodity that has withstood the test of time. Since that kinda goes without saying, I simply explained why one might decide to go with .300 PRC instead since it's new and someone reading this might not understand its advantages, however slight, over .300 Win Mag. I spelled out the caveats involved with the decision. I explained my own rationale and my own risk assessment with the points being made. Others may disagree with my reasons and that's fine, but in a thread asking for advice, I thought they were compelling points to make.

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Man we are just yacking. That's all.

Probably because no one looks to buy these types of rifles because it's so new

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JeremiahJohnson said:

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Winchester and Remington are not brands ammo brands i would buy in 2024. There are plenty of other better offerings.

People don't use the 215 grain bullet not sure who was making it for Federal but that's not a common grain size.

Barnes, Berger, and Hornady are all available.

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They are until they are not.


Whether or not you would use them or not is meaningless. You can laugh all you want, but if a round is going to survive long term it will need to be produced by the major manufacturers or it will eventually fade away.

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You're speaking in hypotheticals. None of us have any clue what the future brings for .300 PRC. None of us have any idea which manufacturers may or may not offer factory ammo for it in the near future either. As was stated very clearly, a lot hinges on whether or not you reload. I didn't see a soul argue against .300 Win Mag being the far more practical choice for the factory ammo only shooter. The OP asked for advice on making a selection. Pros and cons were given. There are pros and cons to just about every decision one can make.

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Man we are just yacking. That's all.

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Man, get out of here with your level headed perspective that keeps us from getting needlessly offended.

This is an Internet forum- we are here for the dumpster fires and violence! Grab the pitchforks and let's gggggoooooooo!!!!!!

Here is what the future holds:

Remington announced 3 new PRC loads in 2023 that are being manufactured right now. They originally did a short run test and it sold out fast.

Federal made a short run of 210 grain PRC and they sold fast. They are planning for more expansion in the PRC realm. They are investing a lot in 6.5 PRC, 7 PRC and 300 PRC.

JeremiahJohnson said:

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Here is what the future holds:

Remington announced 3 new PRC loads in 2023 that are being manufactured right now. They originally did a short run test and it sold out fast.

Federal made a short run of 210 grain PRC and they sold fast. They are planning for more expansion in the PRC realm. They are investing a lot in 6.5 PRC, 7 PRC and 300 PRC.

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Should we buy the stock?

cupofjoe04 said:

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agsalaska said:

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Man we are just yacking. That's all.

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Man, get out of here with your level headed perspective that keeps us from getting needlessly offended.

This is an Internet forum- we are here for the dumpster fires and violence! Grab the pitchforks and let's gggggoooooooo!!!!!!

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Did you know I hate coffee.

Futures look good.

You lost credibility with the coffee comment. Haha

agsalaska said:

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cupofjoe04 said:

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agsalaska said:

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Man we are just yacking. That's all.

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Man, get out of here with your level headed perspective that keeps us from getting needlessly offended.

This is an Internet forum- we are here for the dumpster fires and violence! Grab the pitchforks and let's gggggoooooooo!!!!!!

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Did you know I hate coffee.

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agsalaska said:

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See Ammoseek.com. They have them on their website but are not in current production. Which is the problem.

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You keep talking about ammoseek. I could really give 2 craps about online ammo. I'd rather be able to pop in a store and grab a box. Which in the 5 stores I've been in recently, and academy that someone else mentioned, that real world info favors the PRC. The factory ELDM and ELDX do absolutely everything I could need it to.

They both do the exact same thing for 99% of the use cases. If I was looking for a new car in the mid 80's I wouldn't be buying a carbureted car though, regardless of how much history it has and mechanics to work on it.

Well that's great news for you then bud. You should probably pick up a .350 Legend when you are out there since the real world info favors it too.

Your right, who needs the three largest ammo makers when you have Hornady.

I'm gonna venture out on a limb and say the typical shooter interested in .300 PRC ain't the same shooter who buys Winchester and Remington factory ammo.

That's a fair point. That may be true.

But my point still stands about it needing all the makers if it is to become mainstream

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That's a fair point. That may be true.

But my point still stands about it needing all the makers if it is to become mainstream

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The PRCs seem to be doing very well despite being new. I'd say they are pretty mainstream already.

https://backfire.tv/popular-cartridges/

6.5 Creedmoor is still a fairly new cartridge, is the 3rd highest selling ammo, and yet who buys Remington or Winchester Cteed ammo? Hornady is dominating the market and is responsible for most of the innovation. Remington and Winchester are getting their azzes handed to them in ammo sales and offers pitiful bullet selection.

The "major" manufacturers and industry are only interested in getting all of us to spend more money. The best way to do that is to invent a new cartridge which requires new guns, new ammo, new reloading components etc. How is the .260 doing now I owned one it was great but they have all abandoned it now. The wsm and wssm seems like there were 8 or 9 of those the only one that really survived is the 300 wsm I personally think the 7wsm was the best one it fell off quick.

If history is correct one of these prc's will survive anyone's guess which one and to be sure it will have nothing to do which one is actually the best.

Enjoyed the yacking today fellas.

I'm at the A&M v Baylor soccer game in Waco.
These girls are ridiculous

I went with Fierce Carbon Rogue in 300 PRC

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I went with Fierce Carbon Rogue in 300 PRC

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Yea good luck finding ammo.

already found a lot. I don't see it being an issue. Just costs more than 300wm

CS Academy
$59 for 300prc. Similar load with 300WM was $55. But only uses 200 grain bullet while the PRC had 212 grain.

Picked up a box of Hornady ELDX, a box of Horanady Outfitter, and a box of Norma. Will see which one she likes on Friday.

What kind of bullet is in the Norma?

Norma Bond Srike Long Range Hunting
180gr

Interesting. Must be a European cooy of one of the Hornady bullets.

I've shot a lot of Norma ammo over the years in pistol mostly but some rifle but never that one.

The copper or bonded would be my choice on a moose. I have shot a few deer with 300winmag Eldx and they exploded inside the chest cavity. Total destruction but not sure how it would work on a large animal like a moose at close range.

I have an horizon 300prc. It's called the rattlesnake
I use just for hunts that could be long shots
Such as drive stop and stalk
Killed elk and mule deer
Longest shot was 400yds
It's little long little heavy. No suppressor just muzzle break
For as little as I shoot it figured no suppressor
The gun had no recoil
I shoot the Hornady eldx 212 he
My night force scope ranges to 900 yds
No problem with my old self hitting that one ft target at 900
Just my facts. Never shoot a 300wnm
It is also pricey

One thing I left off. Ammo has been really easy to come by