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300wm vs 300prc

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shalackin
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have read quite a bit about this. trying to go on a moose hunt, and "need(lol)" one of these. Anyways, I am not big on super long distance shooting. From what I have read, if you don't already own a win mag, might as well go with the PRC. Thoughts? This is a hunter, not a long range target gun.
shalackin
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I have even considered a 7PRC for a sweet spot. Would like one these 3. I believe some states/locations have a .30cal minimum though, so a 7PRC might not be the best all around fit for that. Currently, largest I have is couple 30.06 and a .308. So wanting to up that a little.
agsalaska
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I would get a .300 Win Mag unless you reload. Even then I would get the .300 WM. The only way I would get a .300 PRC over a 30 mag is if I was shooting at extreme ranges

That whole, 'you might as well get' is said every time a newer cartridge outperforms and older cartridge at obscene ranges that you are never going to hunt at. And too many of those are now completely unsupported by mainstream, ammo manufacturers or are only produced in limited numbers.

Right now on Midway USA they have 12 available cartridges for the PRC, half of which are precision target stuff, as in not hunting bullets, and most are in the $75-$90 a box range.

.300 Win Mag has 90 available and traditional cup and core deer ammo as low as $28.

I think it is a no brainer actually, for your purposes.
CS78
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Sounds like a good excuse for a 35 whelen.
Furlock Bones
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as a person that always like the new stuff, BUY THE .300 Winmag. It will never not be enough for you.
JeremiahJohnson
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300 Prc is an improved 300 winmag. It's better and more efficient. I own a 300Winmag. If doing it over I would get the PRC. It was too new when I built my winmag. Now the ammo is everywhere. Prc is also an easier caliber to reload.

I know everyone else will say 300Winmag. I said that too 8-10 years ago. I don't need 100 ammo variations just a good bonded bullet.
agsalaska
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Ten years from now Jason is going to be on Gunbroker setting a $250 minimum bid for the rare box of .300 PRC that pops up from time to time.

For what it's worth I do the same thing for .375 Winchester.
Charismatic Megafauna
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CS78 said:

Sounds like a good excuse for a 35 whelen.

Or 9.3x62, or 375 h&h
Charismatic Megafauna
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But your 06 is plenty for moose
JeremiahJohnson
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agsalaska said:

Ten years from now Jason is going to be on Gunbroker setting a $250 minimum bid for the rare box of .300 PRC that pops up from time to time.

For what it's worth I do the same thing for .375 Winchester.


Haha they said that 10 years ago. Not now.

I am sure they said that 60 years ago about the winmag. I know change is hard.
agsalaska
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And change for the sake of change is dumb.
JeremiahJohnson
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I agree. But also belted cartridges are dumb. We don't need them anymore.
AgDad121619
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Swedes have been killing Moose with 6.5X55 as their primary round for years. But still a good excuse to get a new gun if you want one
Red Pear Realty
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What is wrong with y'all? The correct answer is GET BOTH. Start with the WM and then buy the PRC.
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NRH ag 10
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You'll be in a much better position to avoid a rodeo if you practice with you .308 or .30-06 in field positions on a timer to prep for the hunt. As mentioned, plenty of people are killing and have been killing moose with pretty mild cartridges for a looooong time.

I might draw a cow moose tag here in CO in the next 2 or 3 years. It'll get shot with a 6.5-284 on the high end, or a 6mm Creedmoor or GT if I've put on a new barrel by then.
agsalaska
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Then stop making ammo for them and start making ammo for the PRC

If he goes PRC over Mag the only thing it will do for him is lighten his wallet. He specifically said that he is not into long range shooting which is the only real reason to get a PRC over a mag.

There have been WAY too many cartridges produced in the last 20 years that never fully caught on. Not saying the PRC won't. It might. But until I can walk into Academy and have ten choices of ammo I'm not betting on it.

Furlock Bones
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agsalaska said:

Then stop making ammo for them and start making ammo for the PRC

If he goes PRC over Mag the only thing it will do for him is lighten his wallet. He specifically said that he is not into long range shooting which is the only real reason to get a PRC over a mag.

There have been WAY too many cartridges produced in the last 20 years that never fully caught on. Not saying the PRC won't. It might. But until I can walk into Academy and have ten choices of ammo I'm not betting on it.


This.
JeremiahJohnson
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This is exactly how I expected this thread to go.
AggieMPH2005
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There is another reason to get a PRC is that it works better in shorter barrels from my understanding. I don't like hunting with a 26 inch like most win mag's come in and PRC's can be had in a 22 or 24.
agsalaska
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JeremiahJohnson said:

This is exactly how I expected this thread to go.


You mean you being wrong.
agsalaska
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Red Pear Realty said:

What is wrong with y'all? The correct answer is GET BOTH. Start with the WM and then buy the PRC.


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JeremiahJohnson said:

This is exactly how I expected this thread to go.

I'm just happy that I could contribute.
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JeremiahJohnson
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Everything I said is true. Using a belt to headspace a cartridge is inefficient and that's the reason for the PRC.

The only advantage of the winmag is dozen redundant ammo choices.

I own a Winmag.
Furlock Bones
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AggieMPH2005 said:

There is another reason to get a PRC is that it works better in shorter barrels from my understanding. I don't like hunting with a 26 inch like most win mag's come in and PRC's can be had in a 22 or 24.
.308 works in much shorter barrels. same bullet.
agsalaska
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JeremiahJohnson said:

Everything I said is true. Using a belt to headspace a cartridge is inefficient and that's the reason for the PRC.

The only advantage of the winmag is dozen redundant ammo choices.

I own a Winmag.


So I am right

JeremiahJohnson
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Playing devils advocate.

But a suppressed 30 cal pushing a 200 grain bullet 2850-3000fps out of an 18 inch barrel would be a fun mountain rifle.
JeremiahJohnson
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agsalaska said:

JeremiahJohnson said:

Everything I said is true. Using a belt to headspace a cartridge is inefficient and that's the reason for the PRC.

The only advantage of the winmag is dozen redundant ammo choices.

I own a Winmag.


So I am right




If that's your definition of a better cartridge. Then yes you are right.
agsalaska
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JeremiahJohnson said:

agsalaska said:

JeremiahJohnson said:

Everything I said is true. Using a belt to headspace a cartridge is inefficient and that's the reason for the PRC.

The only advantage of the winmag is dozen redundant ammo choices.

I own a Winmag.


So I am right




If that's your definition of a better cartridge. Then yes you are right.


We were never discussing which cartridge was 'better'. We were discussing which cartridge he should buy. (Gun chambered in said cartridge)

JeremiahJohnson
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agsalaska
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Man don't get me wrong. I'm fascinated by the developments in long range shooting, especially bullet design. I am constantly learning about that stuff even if I will probably never get into it personally. It is absolutely the coolest thing going in the gun industry right now.

If he get a PRC he is not wrong. Neither is really wrong. I just think that for a casual hunter a 30 mag makes more sense right now.
SGrem
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Every big game outfitter any where on the planet has a box of 300wm somewhere.

Moose aren't particularly hard to kill. (Especially since you mentioned not long range.) Any 270 on up is more than enough. And yes the 6.5x55 Swedish has killed more moose than all the rest put together. (Especially before 6.5 manbun was even a thought.)
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meggy09
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I think if you took a random 10 factory 300WM rifles and a (similar) 10 random factory 300 PRC rifles, used ammo of the same price range, the PRC are going to on average shoot better. It's a better designed chamber.

If "good enough" is ok for you then sure just get the WM


I'm not sure why online ammo availability is even part of this discussion?? I want boxes on the shelves. I've been in 1 Scheels, 2 Cabelas, and 2 Sportsman's Warehouses in the last few weeks, waaaaaay more PRC on the shelf than WM. It was the same way through the last ammo shortages too.

I'm betting the majority of you in this thread also could buy a 300 PRC, 5 boxes of ammo, and be set for the next 10 years .
agsalaska
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When I lived in Alaska the top moose cartridges were 30-06, 7.62x54, and .300 win mag. Probably in that order. Mosin Nagants and Springfield 1903s and Enfield 1917s were everywhere and had been for a long time. Not sure how so many Nagants got to Alaska but they have been there for a while. I had one. Still have it actually but I left it in a shed and it rusted out.
JeremiahJohnson
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I had this happen to me too. I got a mountain goat hunt in a national park and needed a lead free bullet on short notice. Only ones available were 300 PRC. I had to call a reloader and get them to overnight me a couple boxes for my winmag. I bought reloading equipment as soon as I got back from the hunt.
dodger02
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I'll sell you a Thompson Venture .300WM with Nikon scope that was gifted to me by a friend who no longer hunts.

I think it has 28 rounds down the pipe. Would come with half a box of Scirocco Bonded and a full box of Hornady American Whitetail rounds.
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