montanagriz said:
schmellba99 said:
I see you follow Kroll. He has significant stakes in breeding operations and is highly biased. He also picks the numbers and words he uses very carefully.
CWD has been known since the 60's, and it was almost exclusively limited to western states and in mule deer and elk. In Texas, there was a couple of cases of it being detected - all in mule deer IIRC - in the panhandle and maybe way out in El Paso area.
Then deer breeding became a thing and all of a sudden multiple cases pop up along the 35 corridor - where, coincdentally, most deer breeding operations are located. Deer breeding is the single biggest - not the only cause, but the single biggest by far - contributing factor to the spread of the disease and the numbers show it in spades.
https://instagr.am/p/Cs9JxLiupez
Im not here saying they didnt spread it. Hell, it could just be scrapies and around forever in the ground. Some think it mutated from sheep scrapies and is prevalent in ground where sheep were prevalent as a livestock. Discussion isnt who spreads it but is it really that dangerous. What makes it so dangerous compared to ehd? Have the deer herds not grown? Isnt the % low of deer that tested positive? Like less thsn 1%, just seems like covid scare when you look at numbers and see deer numbers increasing. Killing healthy deer isnt the answer, why would anyone think that is a great answer is beyond me
Any disease that takes years to manifest and absolutely kills its host with no known method of control or cure should be considered dangerous, because anything that cannot be controlled and kills is, by definition, dangerous.
You can argue percentages all you want, but the absolute FACT of the matter is that deer breeding, and the subsequent transport of those deer, is the single biggest mechanism that spreads the prions. All because people think they need to shoot 37 point pen rased deer instead of being happy with the deer a specific region produces naturally.
There are a lot of things that may not be the answer - but one thing that IS an answer, or at the very least a massive positive contributing factor to an answer - is looking at hard numbers and realizing that raising deer in artificial environments that propogate the spread of a disease and provide conditions to which that disease obviously thrives, then taking those deer and transporting them to other areas knowing that they come from a condition where they have a high percentage of exposure to a non curable and fatal disease is absolutely NOT an answer. And that can be backed up with facts and hard data versus conjecture.
In any problem, you follow basic protocol to find the solution to the problem:
1. Identify the problem.
2. Analyze contributing factors or conditions
3. Establish a priority of elimitating, controlling/engineering or managing
4. Implement the plan
5. Re-analyze to determine if the plan works
We know the problem - CWD exists and is being spread. We know the
primary contributing factor is pen raised deer and the transport of those pen raised deer from one area to another. We know that is a primary factor because the data bears it out. That puts us at Step 3, and there are apparently legions of people that want the process to just stop without any real solution, generally using things like "we don't know it's dangerous" or "the numbers are so small, why is everybody worrying" or "It's naturally occuring!" etc. That is not a solution, that is letting the issue fester and propogate, which is objectively just a piss poor mentality with, generally speaking, end results that are far worse than the current condition.