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Buying Huisache Infested Land

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ValleyRatAg
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Centerpole90 said:

Fun fact: the high school yearbook in my hometown is the Huisache.


Knowing that town I believe it.
Jack Squat 83
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However you remove what you see, just keep in mind what is under the ground. If you plan on plowing the land at some point in the near future you can't if the roots are still present(duh). Depending on type of soil a good dozer operator with an adjustable blade should be able to get them out, or as posted, plan on spending the bucks and root plowing/stack/burn while clearing, then seed or sprig some improved grasses. If you are in a position to need to tally a bunch of expenses, this is a great opportunity.

It won't be cheap or easy, but if you don't use heavy enough tools, expect to tear up a bunch of equipment and have marginal results.
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Bluto
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I'm new to owning land, so I've just started looking into things of this nature. You may already know this stuff.

I would think step #1 would be to talk to your local FSA and NRCS office. Get your farm number from FSA, then get with NRCS to see what programs are available for financial assistance with this. In our county they pay 60% you pay 40% for land clearing for cattle grazing. I don't know the details and limitations on that, as we haven't met with NRCS yet, but the guy we met with at FSA told us it's best to not clear anything until you talk to with offices if you want to maximize your financial assistance. Again, we're just getting our fet wet on this stuff, but I'm sure others here can expand on what I've said.

Paging Gunny!!! He appears to know alot about this kind of thing.

If it costs $100k to hire someone, and your county would pay 60/40, it might be worth it to go that route and be done with it. Or, I believe they will still pay, even if you do the work yourself. So you could effectively end up with a free machine after it was all said and done if you went that route. If I understand that process correctly.
B-1 83
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What county?
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
Bonfire97
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Fullback, thanks for the info. The saw blade looks like a pretty good solution. Do you have the one in the link you posted above or a different one? Also, you mentioned angling the blade and getting into the ground some. Does getting these in the dirt affect the performance/sharpness?

Thanks in advance.
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https://www.us.envu.com/vegetation-management/range-and-pasture/portfolios-and-solutions/invora
rab79
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BoerneGator said:

Hoyt Ag said:

Do goats eat it?
Yes, they will, but rhinoceros love them some huisache. Turn a herd of them lose in it. Profit!

Rhinos would solve the coyote problem you have with goats...
lb sand
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I have visions of fullback driving thru his pastures in this.

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redaszag99 said:

A $1mil to $1.5 mil to clear 100 acres seems super high to me.


Math is hard.
AgTrip
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This....your answer is this!
cavscout96
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ValleyRatAg said:

Fire or diesel mixed with remedy.
fire doesn't kill huisache
Muddyfeet
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Chupacabra44 said:

Invora herbicide is your ally in fighting huisache.


Listen to this guy. Invora is the way to go.
SanAntoneAg
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So do nilgai.

Back to the OP, what about aerial application of herbicide?

I've seen a pasture that used to be choked with huisache along I-37 in Atascosa County for years and now it's just old trees that have been dead for years with vibrant grass growth.

Had to have been a plane that applied the treatment. At 100 acres, you should be able to do same unless it is cost prohibitive.
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Bluto
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Robertson Co. But they have a hold on it b/c of Houston Tree Frogs
B-1 83
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Bluto said:

Robertson Co. But they have a hold on it b/c of Houston Tree Frogs
*Groan*. I'd forgotten about that one. I never had to deal with it - just warblers and vireos.

https://tpwd.texas.gov/huntwild/wild/species/htoad/#:~:text=Habitat%20preferences%20include%20forested%20areas,for%20at%20least%2030%20days.
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fullback44
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Bonfire97 said:

Fullback, thanks for the info. The saw blade looks like a pretty good solution. Do you have the one in the link you posted above or a different one? Also, you mentioned angling the blade and getting into the ground some. Does getting these in the dirt affect the performance/sharpness?

Thanks in advance.
I don't know the brand we have but I can find out this weekend… I'm sure running those teeth into the dirt doesn't help them… but we have used ours for 2-3 years now including on mesquite brush and only changed a few teeth. I'll find out kthe brand we have, it's yellow. Also I think our saw runs on low flow.

So we actually rented our machine out of San Antonio just to try it out vs the heavy duty shears we had. We bought it from the rental company because it was just a faster machine … this type of saw is not a mulching head
fullback44
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lb sand said:

I have visions of fullback driving thru his pastures in this.


I like this one …
BoerneGator
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rab79 said:

BoerneGator said:

Hoyt Ag said:

Do goats eat it?
Yes, they will, but rhinoceros love them some huisache. Turn a herd of them lose in it. Profit!

Rhinos would solve the coyote problem you have with goats...
I'm not the one with the goat problem; nor huisache nor rhinoceros either. I just know rhinos will decimate the huisache.
jmac24
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I had quite a bit on a 70 acre property I purchased in Brenham about 3 years ago. I have hand sprayed remedy/diesel mix on them each fall and I think I have about knocked them out. Just takes time.
fullback44
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jmac24 said:

I had quite a bit on a 70 acre property I purchased in Brenham about 3 years ago. I have hand sprayed remedy/diesel mix on them each fall and I think I have about knocked them out. Just takes time.
It's the long game and takes patience, but you can turn those fields back into really nice looking pastures in a few years.
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SanAntoneAg said:

So do nilgai.

Back to the OP, what about aerial application of herbicide?

I've seen a pasture that used to be choked with huisache along I-37 in Atascosa County for years and now it's just old trees that have been dead for years with vibrant grass growth.

Had to have been a plane that applied the treatment. At 100 acres, you should be able to do same unless it is cost prohibitive.


This seems the way to go.
fullback44
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Marlin39m said:

SanAntoneAg said:

So do nilgai.

Back to the OP, what about aerial application of herbicide?

I've seen a pasture that used to be choked with huisache along I-37 in Atascosa County for years and now it's just old trees that have been dead for years with vibrant grass growth.

Had to have been a plane that applied the treatment. At 100 acres, you should be able to do same unless it is cost prohibitive.


This seems the way to go.
I've seen those fields, it killed the heck out of them. My brother said you can helicopter spray the huesach for a fairly reasonable number, he thought like $40-$60 an acres, if you don't need your land back right away, this may be the best route OP, or do a mix, clean some up your self for land you want to use right away and then spray the rest of it.. you will still have to deal with all the dead trees that were sprayed down the road but they basically fall over.
fullback44
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Bonfire97 said:

Fullback, thanks for the info. The saw blade looks like a pretty good solution. Do you have the one in the link you posted above or a different one? Also, you mentioned angling the blade and getting into the ground some. Does getting these in the dirt affect the performance/sharpness?

Thanks in advance.
So I looked we have a Dymax Medium flow machine.. black and yellow, can't remember what we paid but these types of saws tear up soft huesach trees,

Also it says a Dymax has the optional sprayer attachment, we do not have that on our saw

https://www.agindustrial.com/Product/112404.
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