UninformedInternetBlogger said:

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I'm not a on the cutting edge of makeup and shampoo, but if we don't know what can go into makeup / haircare products at this point what are we doing?

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schmellba99 said:

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UninformedInternetBlogger said:

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I'm not a on the cutting edge of makeup and shampoo, but if we don't know what can go into makeup / haircare products at this point what are we doing?

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There is always R&D with new formulations. You don't survive unless you can innovate, and innovation requires things that are icky at times.

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agsalaska said:

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BrazosDog02 said:

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Errbody want their meds, health products, and makeup but no one wants the ugly things that come with it in their backyard.

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My wife's first job out of A&M was in a genetics lab in the hospital district across the street from Rice. Pretty sure the building had/has an A&M seal on it but lots of different things going on in there.

Anyway she worked there for a couple of years and one of her jobs was to kill the mice. She killed them by the truckload. It was freaking wild. I went up there and watched her do it one day and it was some cold blooded *****

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AgTrip said:

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There are already 5 pretty large primate facilities in Texas. These facilities a breeding facilities mostly. They are Specific pathogen-free (SPF). Research facilities buy these animals to do their test work on because they know what they're getting. That's why you can't use strays, no idea what the animal's genetic makeup is.

Charles Rivers is just south of Houston and they are the ones wanting to expand their facility. They already have a small one there. Even if they did get out, they would probably just sit on the outside of the enclosure. Also, these facilities are pretty secure due to all the peta folks.

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Furlock Bones said:

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so, there have been literal thousands of escaped species that have become invasive species around the world. but, there's almost no chance of that happening this time. right.

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AgTrip said:

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Furlock Bones said:

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so, there have been literal thousands of escaped species that have become invasive species around the world. but, there's almost no chance of that happening this time. right.

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I feel these facilities are more secure than a zoo for sure. You have primary containment enclosures and secondary containment enclosures. Then you have containment around the whole facility. I'm sure they have an escape now and then but it wouldn't be an animal with any disease or carrying anything. This is a breeding facility for healthy research models.

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AgTrip said:

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Furlock Bones said:

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AgTrip said:

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There are already 5 pretty large primate facilities in Texas. These facilities a breeding facilities mostly. They are Specific pathogen-free (SPF). Research facilities buy these animals to do their test work on because they know what they're getting. That's why you can't use strays, no idea what the animal's genetic makeup is.

Charles Rivers is just south of Houston and they are the ones wanting to expand their facility. They already have a small one there. Even if they did get out, they would probably just sit on the outside of the enclosure. Also, these facilities are pretty secure due to all the peta folks.

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uh, yea that's not really what happens.

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Yeah, it sort of is. They're fed from birth by caretakers, not like they know how to fend for themselves plus primates are very troop-oriented. They want to be in groups. This isn't a prison break.

The primate facility in San Antonio had some baboons get out about 10 years ago, they sat on the overpass 100 yards away just watching cars go by on 410. They didn't run around trashing things

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UninformedInternetBlogger said:

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It fits me

I have no issues killing animals when it's necessary, I'm a hunter like everyone else here. But we know what works in a bar of soap and we aren't making groundbreaking leaps of technology in shampoo or makeup.

Maybe it's a legal requirement, we know those are always correct

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Emotional Support Cobra said:

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AgTrip said:

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Furlock Bones said:

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so, there have been literal thousands of escaped species that have become invasive species around the world. but, there's almost no chance of that happening this time. right.

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I feel these facilities are more secure than a zoo for sure. You have primary containment enclosures and secondary containment enclosures. Then you have containment around the whole facility. I'm sure they have an escape now and then but it wouldn't be an animal with any disease or carrying anything. This is a breeding facility for healthy research models.

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This is the most likely scenario. There is also a BSL 4 primate facility in San antonio. These monkeys are bred and raised specially and the research money budgets in the 5 figures for each animal due to breeding, Genetics, age etc.

I am not saying I would want a monkey farm in my backyard, but they will not be carrying TB or Marburg. You should worry more about TB from the migrants crossing the border.

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OnlyForNow said:

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We killed a chicken via mosquitoes in grad school.

Coolest thing I got.

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