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6.5 creedmoor can't drop anything

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BCO07
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2:26p, 11/15/23
Or so they say. My kids have killed 3 deer between last year and this morning. Total steps taken between them is 0. All shoulder or heart shots. Using hornady precision hunter 143gr.

My youngest got his first deer this morning (the doe) and the cull laying next to her just wouldn't go away so Iet my other get his deer for the season too.

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Furlock Bones
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2:29p, 11/15/23
i've been told by a certain salsa maker that isn't possible.
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In reply to BCO07 • 2:30p, 11/15/23
BCO07 said:
Or so they say. My kids have killed 3 deer between last year and this morning. Total steps taken between them is 0. All shoulder or heart shots. Using hornady precision hunter 143gr.

My youngest got his first deer this morning (the doe) and the cull laying next to her just wouldn't go away so Iet my other get his deer for the season too.

Sir, those are clearly jackrabbits, and yes, the 6.5 CM is a heckuva varmint rifle.
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In reply to BCO07 • 2:30p, 11/15/23
j/k nice shots by your youngsters!
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In reply to txags92 • 2:37p, 11/15/23
There was definitely some ground shrinkage on that doe, but she was the biggest in group. The buck wasn't bad at all, good body, but his antlers went straight up.
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3:16p, 11/15/23
You're right…



If anyone needs to offload one, I'll gladly take it off your hands
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3:52p, 11/15/23
I like the terminal performance of a 308 better, but we kill plenty with the 6.5 man-bun. That said .358 win is even better at typical feeder range.

Location is the key. Poor location and it doesn't matter what you shoot.
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5:10p, 11/15/23
Congrats to you and the youngsters for some nice kills! I too often shoot a 6.5 creed among a handful of other favorite cartridges.

I have to say though, I have taken many a deer with "heart shots" and can't recall one of them that were down right there. Does this really happen? By heart shot, I'm referring to low and just behind the front leg that blows up the heart but does not hit major skeletal structures, except for sternum or ribs.
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5:11p, 11/15/23
Its an adequate caliber for the cotton tails posted above...
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In reply to RM76 • 5:21p, 11/15/23
RM76 said:

I have to say though, I have taken many a deer with "heart shots" and can't recall one of them that were down right there. Does this really happen? By heart shot, I'm referring to low and just behind the front leg that blows up the heart but does not hit major skeletal structures, except for sternum or ribs.


Kinda agree. I find heart shots make them run harder than any other hit. One of the reasons I advise people not to aim there.
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In reply to RM76 • 5:24p, 11/15/23
RM76 said:
Congrats to you and the youngsters for some nice kills! I too often shoot a 6.5 creed among a handful of other favorite cartridges.

I have to say though, I have taken many a deer with "heart shots" and can't recall one of them that were down right there. Does this really happen? By heart shot, I'm referring to low and just behind the front leg that blows up the heart but does not hit major skeletal structures, except for sternum or ribs.
2 years ago I shot 11 Aoudad in one season with a 6.5 Creedmoor, all of them behind the should - most of which were slightly quartering (my preference on Aoudad). All but 2 died right in their tracks. One ran 3 yards the other 15-20.

Shot placement is key but I have not seen any issues with whitetail, pigs, or aoudad with a behind the shoulder heart/lung shot.
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In reply to RM76 • 5:44p, 11/15/23
There's the heart from today. Didn't hit any skeletal structures other than ribs.

The doe from today was hit high shoulder. Went through one scapula and ribs on the exit

Deer from last year scapula one side and humerus on the exit.

All three fell over dead.
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6:12p, 11/15/23
Love my 6.5 CM, but I'm mot trying to kill an elk at 1k yards either. I think the people that think a 6.5 CM will automatically turn them into Carlos Hathcock trying to take long range unethical shots have given the gun the bad wrap. My Ruger American Predator is a tack driver.
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In reply to ttha_aggie_09 • 6:23p, 11/15/23
ttha_aggie_09 said:
You're right…



If anyone needs to offload one, I'll gladly take it off your hands


Headshot, I would hope DRT
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In reply to tandy miller • 6:25p, 11/15/23
It was more of a jowl shot right into the neck/chest
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In reply to ttha_aggie_09 • 6:36p, 11/15/23
ttha_aggie_09 said:
It was more of a jowl shot right into the neck/chest


I'll allow it
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In reply to CS78 • 6:42p, 11/15/23
CS78 said:
RM76 said:

I have to say though, I have taken many a deer with "heart shots" and can't recall one of them that were down right there. Does this really happen? By heart shot, I'm referring to low and just behind the front leg that blows up the heart but does not hit major skeletal structures, except for sternum or ribs.


Kinda agree. I find heart shots make them run harder than any other hit. One of the reasons I advise people not to aim there.
Are you a high-shoulder shot guy? just curious
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tandy miller
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6:55p, 11/15/23
My guess is most people are shooting the wrong (match) bullets out of 6.5 CM
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CS78
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In reply to cupofjoe04 • 7:32p, 11/15/23
cupofjoe04 said:
CS78 said:
RM76 said:

I have to say though, I have taken many a deer with "heart shots" and can't recall one of them that were down right there. Does this really happen? By heart shot, I'm referring to low and just behind the front leg that blows up the heart but does not hit major skeletal structures, except for sternum or ribs.


Kinda agree. I find heart shots make them run harder than any other hit. One of the reasons I advise people not to aim there.
Are you a high-shoulder shot guy? just curious

I teach square in the shoulder. With a description of follow the leg up and then halfway between the top and the bottom of the body. If you're on target, it blows out all the major vessels where the heart and lungs connect. And it leaves more room for error in any direction. High shoulder increases risk of being high. Behind shoulder increases risk of gut shot.



Also came across this on TBH the other day and really like it.

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Maximus Johnson
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In reply to CS78 • 7:36p, 11/15/23
Hard to run without front legs….

This is where I have people shoot them that are young or nervous.
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In reply to CS78 • 7:52p, 11/15/23
Still waiting on the in depth research you said you had in regards to cleaning barrels and affects on first shots after.
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7:53p, 11/15/23
I had a straight heart shot last year with a .308 and he bolted about 15 yards and crashed.
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Hoyt Ag
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7:57p, 11/15/23
Good post OP. Making some good memories!


I have no issue with the 6.5, I have one and shoot a lot with it. As a tracker and guide, most the issues I see with it is people using target loads for hunting or not knowing the DOPE. It's a good round for a lot of uses.

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CS78
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In reply to Hoyt Ag • 8:07p, 11/15/23
Hoyt Ag said:
Still waiting on the in depth research you said you had in regards to cleaning barrels and affects on first shots after.


I think you're looking for someone else.
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Hoyt Ag
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In reply to CS78 • 8:10p, 11/15/23
My sincere apologies, sir/maam. I'm still waiting on the data thought from them.
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In reply to CS78 • 9:01p, 11/15/23
I tell my boys to hit the middle of 4C on your chart. Basically the same idea, but I think it easier for the to see the focus made on the crease made by the back of scapula when I'm telling them to aim small
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In reply to BCO07 • 9:23p, 11/15/23
I been shooting the hornaday match bullet and damn it leaves a hole. Liking it alot for my 9 yr old
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In reply to Aggie Hunter • 9:40p, 11/15/23
I hate paying for them, but they are impressive and don't see myself moving on
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In reply to BCO07 • 9:54p, 11/15/23
After tracking one in Webb county for about 400 yards I dont mind paying anymore. I pulled thorns out of pants, socks, shoes and leg for 2 months.
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In reply to tandy miller • 1:10a, 11/17/23
Generalizations like this are not helpful.

Sierra matchking? I'll give that to you.
Tipped matchking? Hornady ELDMs? Bergers? You're wrong, they have excellent performance, and I can attest to the terminal performance of the eldm from 40 to just under 500 yds myself.

In general, anyone making claims about the performance of "X" cartridge on game without being able to tell you impact location/angle and bullet used is wasting time.
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In reply to NRH ag 10 • 1:21a, 11/17/23
I have shot a couple deer and hogs with Hornady ELDM's as well. I can't tell a difference between those and the ELDX's on the receiving end. Not saying I would choose a M over and X for hunting. But to shoot a whitetail sized animal at a reasonable distance- if you put the hot metal in the soft parts, it will work just fine.
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4:39a, 11/17/23
I have dropped dozens of animals with my 143 ELDX bullets, but my issue is when they do run, there is absolutely zero blood trail. Because of this reason it has turned my 6.5 into a meat/varmint gun.

Could I try a different bullet? yes, but I am stubborn and dont like change.
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tandy miller
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In reply to NRH ag 10 • 7:51a, 11/17/23
NRH ag 10 said:
Generalizations like this are not helpful.

Sierra matchking? I'll give that to you.
Tipped matchking? Hornady ELDMs? Bergers? You're wrong, they have excellent performance, and I can attest to the terminal performance of the eldm from 40 to just under 500 yds myself.

In general, anyone making claims about the performance of "X" cartridge on game without being able to tell you impact location/angle and bullet used is wasting time.


None of the animals I've shot w/ ELD-M's have bled. I found them all, but it was because double lung. Entry/exit were the same size.

That's just my anecdotal experience. I don't hunt w/ Match bullets when there's bullets with better terminal performance available.

That's also why I don't shoot deer with field points on my arrows
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7:59a, 11/17/23
https://www.nosler.com/6-5-creedmoor-142gr-accubond-long-range-trophy-grade-ammunition.html

You are welcome.
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8:04a, 11/17/23
No opinions, but I'll add my recent experience...I put a 140(?) grain CoreLokt into C4 directly broadside on the above chart at 150 yards Saturday. No exit wound, but it only ran about 15 yards.
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