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Help me buy a kitchen knife set

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TarponChaser
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We have a set of Henckels that were from Bed, Bath & Beyond when we got married in 2005. They've been good quality and used a lot. I have zero complaints. The big thing is that I drilled into the wife that they don't soak in the sink or go into the dishwasher. Hand-washed & dried.

I use the traditional chef's knife, boning knife, and paring knife more than anything else.

I've tried a few different sharpeners like the Warthog and another one I forget the name of but I still like a traditional stone once or twice a year. They stay pretty damn sharp and when I need a periodic touch-up I run them through the AccuSharp. I'm not going to claim they're razor sharp or that I could shave with them but I've never had any problems with them slipping due to being dull or anything like that- I keep them to the point where they can very thinly slice an overripe tomato without squashing it and that seems a good guide.
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schmellba99 said:

I don't think anybody has claimed they are the top of the line, but they are good quality knives that don't require a lot of maintenance, hold an edge fairly well and for general average joe type cooking, are a very solid brand. Which meets the needs of probably 99% or more of people out there. A big thing with them is their warranty and the fact that they don't nitpick you to death - most of the time they just replace the knife, no quesitons asked.

The handles, to me, are very ergonomic. I don't get wrapped up in my kitchen knives needing to have narwhal horn handles or any of that crap - they are kitchen knives and need to be somewhat utilitarian because they aren't going to be treated with kid gloves. They are a resin, just like most other production kitchen knife brands out there.

Cutco uses 440A, which isn't top of the line steel - but isn't a cheap grade either. And, frankly, anybody that thinks they need a supersteel kitchen knife that is hand forged is pretty much either a knife nerd or somebody that just thinks they have to have super expensive things just because.

Stamped vs. forged - almost no discernable difference. Forged sounds better than stamped, but most forged kitchen knives are drop forged or stamp forged where the manipulation of the steel is minimal at best. I mean, if you are forging it yourself, there is something to be said about that....but for the most part, forged knives out there are little more than semi-fancy production knives with an extra price tag. Same with most damascus steel knives - they are more than likely made with India or Paki cheap AF damascus and you'll find they don't sharpen for sht or hold and edge for sht either.

Are their "better" knifes? Abso-freaking-loutely. But in all reality, it is a very, very, very rare person that needs anything above "pretty solid" when it comes to normal every day cooking. Most of the rest is just "I want this because i fancy myself as a michelin chef on the weekends" or those that need to brag to the guests when they invite somebody over.

Don't get me wrong, the idea of a custom or some badass knife is apeallng and nothing wrong with it. Hell, one day I'd love to make a custom brisket knife out of a custom wootz blend with a nice handle, that would just be cool as hell. Even better if I could make it myself and have it come out close to how I picture it.


A set of 6 MercerGenesis knives runs $130, the starter 5 knife kit from Cutco is $715. You keep going on about Custom high dollar knives. I'm pointing out you can get a better quality knife for 1/5th of the price making Cutco one of the worst values in all of Cutlary. WGAF about a warranty on something that will likely never fail
HTownAg98
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Your first mistake is wanting to buy a set. Most people need a good chef's knife, a serrated knife, and a paring knife. If you're doing a lot of your own butchery, a boning knife is a godsend, but that depends on your needs.

As far as materials go, I love carbon steel. It holds an edge very well, and the blade develops a very pretty patina as it ages. The problem is you have to oil it every single time you're done using it or it will rust. My Misono is Japanese made with Swedish carbon steel, and I freaking love it. It's light, holds an edge, and has an offset edge so it will cut very, very straight.

Another tip is to go somewhere you can try out the knives and see what fits your hand the best. A cheap knife that is comfortable in your hand is going to be way better than an expensive knife that doesn't fit and feels clunky.

Finally, if you're wanting to splurge, get an end-grain cutting board. They are so much easier on your knives, and are more sanitary than plastic boards (hard to believe, but it's true).
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I have a 20yr old set of Wusthoffs.

What I need is a good Sharping system. I like the guided rod setups, but they vary all over in price.
AggieMPH2005
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I went with Shun and I love them but it's hard to recommend them as they do require a level of care and attention to detail in order to keep the edge from chipping. A level of care that in my case skips generations and also does not transfer via marriage apparently.

I picked up a Messermeister cleaver a long time ago and have been impressed with its quality and robustness. If I knew back then what I know now, I would have gone with them for all of my knives. Wusthof has too many products at too many price points for me to have a good feel for what a quality knife is for a reasonable price.

My Spyderco sharpener keeps them all sharp and I highly recommend.
TarponChaser
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What kind of oil do you use on your carbon steel knives?
DiskoTroop
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Mathguy64 said:

I have had a Shun santuko and paring knife for years. They get passed over a stone periodically and are razor sharp.

I keep a ceramic paring knife in the block. Razor sharp and 100% disposable if it chips or cracks.

The rest of my knifes were random things I bought at various times. A chefs knife. A boning knife. A bread knife. All of those pieces I am replacing one at a time with ones from New West Knifeworks.

This is what I have from them so far.



Love my New West Chef's knife.
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Cutco
BlueSmoke
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Originally had Wusfoff, now I replace knives one at a time as needed.
Nobody cares. Work Harder
HTownAg98
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TarponChaser said:

What kind of oil do you use on your carbon steel knives?

KUROBARA 100% Pure Tsubaki... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00362HBPQ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
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smstork1007 said:

Just happy the world is full of products that I don't just NEED, but might just WANT.
Nothing wrong with that man, 99% of what we do on this board discusses wants. And we like it that way.
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Crap, you got me on that one. I glossed over the last part of your statement, mostly because anytime food is mentioned you come flying in telling us how awesome of a cook and crap you are and I made the mistake of assuming you were hoity toity with knives. My mistake.

Doesn't discount the fact that your comments about cheap steel and the handles is pretty much crap, but I readily agree with your statement that you can get very good knives for much less if you want.
Reel Aggies
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Check out Rodriguez Butcher Supply in San Antonio. They sell a ton of one-of knives. I got a sweet deal on a Murray Carter custom knife for $250. Scary sharp and an heirloom to pass down. They always have a rotating supply. Some can def get pricey.
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Bought my son a set of Shun off Amazon that are freaking awesome. Not cheap but buy once, cry once on something like quality kitchen knives. Did the 5-piece Classic starter set with block and added a Classic 6" boning and filet knife. I would trade my Wusthoff for Shun, which I have two of received as a gift.

People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
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There's a guy out of WA State that does knives as a side job to supplement his mountain guiding career that I could recommend. His name is Porter McMichael. I know he had an active Instagram account.

I had him make a chef's knife for me a few years ago and I've been very happy with it. I know of multiple other people who have had knives made by him that have been great. He did have some issues with crappy handle material, but looks like he's gotten over that.

I gave him the knife shape I liked and he made me a similar profile. Micarta handle with a burl cap, and it's been a fantastic knife for me. I plan to eventually have him make a couple more knives to match it to fill out my kitchen set.
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Victorinox is the answer for best quality for the money. Probably less than half the price of the fancy brands but they are solid knives that chefs and meat cutters everywhere use.

https://a.co/d/1jCxqNv
duddleysdraw88
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I have a set of Wusthof that is around 20 years old and a set of Cutco that is around 12 years old.

Both have served us well and I would recommend either brand to you.
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Wow, there is a lot of good information on this thread. You can buy good knives at tons of price points.

OP, what is the budget?

I will add a few points. As I said earlier, we have an assorted set.

First, do not buy a huge set. You will be paying a lot to get some knives that you rarely use. I had a chef friend recommend that you get a chef knife for each person, a cheap bred knife, and a paring knife or two. The bred knife will be serrated and disposable. We had then added knives over the years.

Global - These are a very good stamped knife with steel handles. The handles are a little smaller than German knives, and those in my family with smaller hands love them. They hold an edge well, and are not as hard as Shun.

Shun - I love my Shun chef knife, and I use it a ton. As others have mentioned, the steel is hard so you need to be careful to not chip it.

Zwilling - These are the workhorses of the kitchen. They hold an edge, but the steel is softer than Shun. They just work.

This is a great discussion, but without a budget it is hard to say. Also, get an end grain cutting board from agrams.
GrimesCoAg95
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Zwilling is having a sale, so here you go. You can buy a couple of Zwilling knives for Victorinox prices.

Chef Knife: $50 - If you have two cooks, buy 2.
https://www.zwilling.com/us/zwilling-four-star-8-inch-chefs-knife-31071-203/31071-203-0.html

Paring Knife: $30 - Buy 2
https://www.zwilling.com/us/zwilling-four-star-4-inch-paring-knife-31070-103/31070-103-0.html

$160 and you each have the two most essential knives in the kitchen.




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I'll throw in another vote for Wustoff, great mid tier knives that are well crafted.

Also OP, I'm honored to be the first to invite you to the movement on TA where we stop referring to spouses as the cringy pseudonym 'the rib'. We'll leave a light on for you.
Badace52
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No real budget... I was looking to get all the information that has come out of this thread including all the price points. It worked out better than I could have hoped.

I presented the options to my wife and we landed on Wusthof Ikon. My personal favorite was the shun knives, but the rib didn't like the aesthetics. I can always get a nice shun chef knife for myself and keep it in the wusthof block.

Thanks everyone for all the input. The OB really does know stuff.
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