We are selling these saddles locally http://texags.com/forums/50/topics/3413468

First, I will preface this with the fact that I am a natural born skeptic and with the exception of people I meet from Texags, I expect them to scam me some how. It's a horrible way to go through life.

These are advertised on FB Marketplace, and my wife got a PM from some dude wanting to buy one. After 3 messages the buyer wanted to buy them, but couldn't meet in person, and was going to "send his deputies" in his stead to pic them up...whatever the heck that means. Then he said "send me your venmo or zelle, and I'll pay for them now".

The wife said told him she would prefer she meet up and exchange goods, and then pay at that time next week. He stopped responding immediately.

Maybe we just gave up some easy money but who in the heck would pay someone for goods a week in advance, online, and just hope I show up with them? It felt scammy, but I cannot figure out HOW it's scammy.

What's the scam? Is there one?

Probably try and pay you with a stolen venmo or zelle account. Accidentally send you more money than the sale price and ask for it back in cash payable to whoever they send over to collect the saddles and cash refund for overpayment. Then you might get contacted by someone investigating an unauthorized zelle / cash app transfer and potentially have to deal with that. Yeah i'd say 100% scammers and wouldn't worry about it.

I've gotten this exact same thing on FB Marketplace. The other thing they will do is ask for your phone number and then use your cell number to get into your FB account using 2FA and lock you out.

Don't ever give some rando your cell number unless you can tell it's a legit person.

Maybe go back to the old "cash only" option. …and take my authentication pen. Lol.

They will ask for your email to find your zelle, then send a fake "paid" email to you from a spoofed email. Common scam, seen it several times.

FatZilla said:

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They will ask for your email to find your zelle, then send a fake "paid" email to you from a spoofed email. Common scam, seen it several times.

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That seems like a permutation of an overpayment scam. The more I read the more I'm sure that's what was going to be the deal. We were going to get too much money and they would ask for a reversal or a cash refund. They did want to meet very quickly so that all lines up.

Interesting stuff. Seems like a lot of these require someone to not be checking their actual account for payment. Man, you really got to be on your toes now. That's too bad.

tsuag10 said:

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I've gotten this exact same thing on FB Marketplace. The other thing they will do is ask for your phone number and then use your cell number to get into your FB account using 2FA and lock you out.

Don't ever give some rando your cell number unless you can tell it's a legit person.

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How would that work? Wouldn't they need your physical cell phone to get the code send via text? And a password?

SIM swap scam. Look it up.

Yep. It happened to one of my friends

Fannie Luddite said:

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tsuag10 said:

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I've gotten this exact same thing on FB Marketplace. The other thing they will do is ask for your phone number and then use your cell number to get into your FB account using 2FA and lock you out.

Don't ever give some rando your cell number unless you can tell it's a legit person.

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How would that work? Wouldn't they need your physical cell phone to get the code send via text? And a password?

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They make up a reason to ask for the code. "I've sent you the money but it's from a business Venmo please send me the code back to verify receipt" but it's really the forgot password code. Remember scams are for dumb people.

Another scam I just got hit with yesterday:

Was checking my rewards points on my CCard and I noticed 22k points redeemed for Amazon purchases.
Went to my Amazon account, nothing shows up & no one in my family did anything.

Scammers somehow backdoor stealing points to buy on Amazon. If I hadn't checked my reward points I would have never known. Chase reimbursed the points for me, so no loss.

Pretty clever way to steal with lower visibility. Be on the lookout!

I get many emails from what looks like Amazon saying security breach account locked basically they want you to try to log in on their link giving them your info.
I started pulling up the senders email address to be sure but pretty much learned that they all scams to get info.

Worst scam I get is when my adult married kids ask me to get something and we will split it and I'll send Venmo, and the money doesn't come, or hey dad I'm a little short this week but I'll send later. Now that's a racket

jopatura said:

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Fannie Luddite said:

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tsuag10 said:

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I've gotten this exact same thing on FB Marketplace. The other thing they will do is ask for your phone number and then use your cell number to get into your FB account using 2FA and lock you out.

Don't ever give some rando your cell number unless you can tell it's a legit person.

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How would that work? Wouldn't they need your physical cell phone to get the code send via text? And a password?

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They make up a reason to ask for the code. "I've sent you the money but it's from a business Venmo please send me the code back to verify receipt" but it's really the forgot password code. Remember scams are for dumb people.

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it's not a forgot password code, it's to set up google voice.
They'll say 'I sent you a code to make sure you're a real person, let me know what it is'. You get a text from Google voice verification.
If they get it, they can create a Google Voice number linked to your phone number, in which they can call and text from a browser as if it's your number.

So then they can do 'forgot password' or 2FA or whatever, and basically are getting your texts, or call/text your friends and get info from them.



https://consumer.ftc.gov/consumer-alerts/2021/10/google-voice-scam-how-verification-code-scam-works-and-how-avoid-it