NoahAg said:

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How come Americans speak English better than English people? I.e., we don't ruin it with a dumb British accent.

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Because they are idiots who wanted to sound cool, Americans do actually speak the closets to real English.

https://hornet.com/stories/monet-x-change-british-accent/

Wolchover says the modern British accent is really only about 200 years old, initiated by nouveau riche South Londoners who, having become wealthy during the Industrial Revolution, wanted a linguistic way to distinguish themselves from commoners.

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frorge said:

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Oyster DuPree said:

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It's a regional dialect. Kind of the same as when someone calls a sub sandwich a hoagie, or when someone calls a ketchup steak a brisket

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WTF is a Ketchup Steak?!

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Never been to Underwoods in Brownwood I see.

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You shut your disrespectful mouth!

Lance in Round Mountain said:

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'Cause cedar chopper just rolls of the tongue better than juniper chopper ?

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If you're around a bunch of cedar choppers remember to call them "juniper removal technicians" instead of cedar choppers or cedar whackers. Also, as an act of friendship it's customary to offer a cedar chopper some of your Copenhagen if you have it...offer her boyfriend a dip as well.

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Lance in Round Mountain said:

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'Cause cedar chopper just rolls of the tongue better than juniper chopper ?

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If you're around a bunch of cedar choppers remember to call them "juniper removal technicians" instead of cedar choppers of cedar whackers. Also, as an act of friendship it's customary to offer a cedar chopper some of your Copenhagen if you have it...offer her boyfriend a dip as well.

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Good one! Here's some recommended reading for the Outdoor Board --

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There is more than one variety of Juniper in the hill country. Ashe Juniper is but one of them.

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Curious as to what the others are.....can you shed some light? I live here amongst the ash junipers and thought they were the only ones. There is a variety juniper called red cedars east of the hill country......

Rattler12 said:

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src94 said:

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There is more than one variety of Juniper in the hill country. Ashe Juniper is but one of them.

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Curious as to what the others are.....can you shed some light? I live here amongst the ash junipers and thought they were the only ones. There is a variety juniper called red cedars east of the hill country......

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There's another species called redberry juniper (Juniperus pinchotii) that grows in portions of the Hill Country. From a management perspective, it's important to know that if you remove all the green off an ashe juniper, it's dead... not so for redberry juniper- it must be uprooted or grubbed out of the ground (similar to mesquite) to effectively kill it (in other words, redberry juniper will resprout if you simply cut it off at ground level).

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Lance in Round Mountain said:

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Also, prairie dogs aren't a canine. Am I right?

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I bought a prairie dog to use to retrieve ducks. Guy said they were much better than a lab. I think I got took.

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Nah, they are more suited to retrieve sand hill cranes or geese. Water is not their forte.

Lance in Round Mountain said:

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Rattler12 said:

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src94 said:

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There is more than one variety of Juniper in the hill country. Ashe Juniper is but one of them.

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Curious as to what the others are.....can you shed some light? I live here amongst the ash junipers and thought they were the only ones. There is a variety juniper called red cedars east of the hill country......

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There's another species called redberry juniper (Juniperus pinchotii) that grows in portions of the Hill Country. From a management perspective, it's important to know that if you remove all the green off an ashe juniper, it's dead... not so for redberry juniper- it must be uprooted or grubbed out of the ground (similar to mesquite) to effectively kill it (in other words, redberry juniper will resprout if you simply cut it off at ground level).

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This

Maybe if we threatened to only serve that to Congress, until the budget is balanced, something would get done.

That is horrid.

The 14th most senior one thinks this is a delicacy. There's probably not much else we can do to/for those folks.

Born and raised and live in the hill country my entire life. Don't believe I can say I have ever seen a red berry juniper. Can you post a good picture of one ? Where are they most prevalent? TIA.
I know TAMU ext. has them in Oklahoma, West Texas, Arizona, Mexico. But not the HC. Says they are a hybrid of the alligator juniper.
Have they moved in to central Texas?

Capt. Augustus McCrae said:

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Why do we sit in stands?

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Why do we park in driveways?

Gunny456 said:

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Born and raised and live in the hill country my entire life. Don't believe I can say I have ever seen a red berry juniper. Can you post a good picture of one ? Where are they most prevalent? TIA.
I know TAMU ext. has them in Oklahoma, West Texas, Arizona, Mexico. But not the HC. Says they are a hybrid of the alligator juniper.
Have they moved in to central Texas?

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link to Redberry juniper info

This is a great data source and includes some photos of redberry juniper and lists distribution in TX. I think the best characteristics to help with ID are:

• typically multi-branched at the base
• of course red berries (when present)
• white wax glands on leaves

Thanks

Lance in Round Mountain said:

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Gunny456 said:

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Born and raised and live in the hill country my entire life. Don't believe I can say I have ever seen a red berry juniper. Can you post a good picture of one ? Where are they most prevalent? TIA.
I know TAMU ext. has them in Oklahoma, West Texas, Arizona, Mexico. But not the HC. Says they are a hybrid of the alligator juniper.
Have they moved in to central Texas?

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link to Redberry juniper info

This is a great data source and includes some photos of redberry juniper and lists distribution in TX. I think the best characteristics to help with ID are:

• typically multi-branched at the base
• of course red berries (when present)
• white wax glands on leaves

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so, based on what I've seen over my life in the Sonora/Eldorado area has been the gradual takeover by the Red Juniper rather than the ashe juniper.

Lance in Round Mountain said:

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Gunny456 said:

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Born and raised and live in the hill country my entire life. Don't believe I can say I have ever seen a red berry juniper. Can you post a good picture of one ? Where are they most prevalent? TIA.
I know TAMU ext. has them in Oklahoma, West Texas, Arizona, Mexico. But not the HC. Says they are a hybrid of the alligator juniper.
Have they moved in to central Texas?

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link to Redberry juniper info

This is a great data source and includes some photos of redberry juniper and lists distribution in TX. I think the best characteristics to help with ID are:

• typically multi-branched at the base
• of course red berries (when present)
• white wax glands on leaves

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So there's a WORSE cedar?!? Don't worry about that odd cloud forming overhead: it's just my despair.

Get Off My Lawn said:

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Lance in Round Mountain said:

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Gunny456 said:

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Born and raised and live in the hill country my entire life. Don't believe I can say I have ever seen a red berry juniper. Can you post a good picture of one ? Where are they most prevalent? TIA.
I know TAMU ext. has them in Oklahoma, West Texas, Arizona, Mexico. But not the HC. Says they are a hybrid of the alligator juniper.
Have they moved in to central Texas?

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link to Redberry juniper info

This is a great data source and includes some photos of redberry juniper and lists distribution in TX. I think the best characteristics to help with ID are:

• typically multi-branched at the base
• of course red berries (when present)
• white wax glands on leaves

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So there's a WORSE cedar?!? Don't worry about that odd cloud forming overhead: it's just my despair.

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so, that's what i'm wondering. i've asked a couple of times over the years why all of these junipers seem to grow like bushes rather than trees. i was told it was because they were new growth. but, now i am pretty dang sure they are red junipers.

Furlock Bones said:

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Get Off My Lawn said:

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Lance in Round Mountain said:

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Gunny456 said:

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Born and raised and live in the hill country my entire life. Don't believe I can say I have ever seen a red berry juniper. Can you post a good picture of one ? Where are they most prevalent? TIA.
I know TAMU ext. has them in Oklahoma, West Texas, Arizona, Mexico. But not the HC. Says they are a hybrid of the alligator juniper.
Have they moved in to central Texas?

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link to Redberry juniper info

This is a great data source and includes some photos of redberry juniper and lists distribution in TX. I think the best characteristics to help with ID are:

• typically multi-branched at the base
• of course red berries (when present)
• white wax glands on leaves

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So there's a WORSE cedar?!? Don't worry about that odd cloud forming overhead: it's just my despair.

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so, that's what i'm wondering. i've asked a couple of times over the years why all of these junipers seem to grow like bushes rather than trees. i was told it was because they were new growth. but, now i am pretty dang sure they are red junipers.

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Very likely you are seeing redberry juniper (check those branches, leaves for the white wax glands). Ashe juniper will sometimes be multi-branched at the base if it's been cut-off with some green left behind (like if it was shredded with a brush hog) or heavily browsed.

Lance in Round Mountain said:

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Furlock Bones said:

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Get Off My Lawn said:

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Lance in Round Mountain said:

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Gunny456 said:

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Born and raised and live in the hill country my entire life. Don't believe I can say I have ever seen a red berry juniper. Can you post a good picture of one ? Where are they most prevalent? TIA.
I know TAMU ext. has them in Oklahoma, West Texas, Arizona, Mexico. But not the HC. Says they are a hybrid of the alligator juniper.
Have they moved in to central Texas?

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link to Redberry juniper info

This is a great data source and includes some photos of redberry juniper and lists distribution in TX. I think the best characteristics to help with ID are:

• typically multi-branched at the base
• of course red berries (when present)
• white wax glands on leaves

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So there's a WORSE cedar?!? Don't worry about that odd cloud forming overhead: it's just my despair.

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so, that's what i'm wondering. i've asked a couple of times over the years why all of these junipers seem to grow like bushes rather than trees. i was told it was because they were new growth. but, now i am pretty dang sure they are red junipers.

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Very likely you are seeing redberry juniper (check those branches, leaves for the white wax glands). Ashe juniper will sometimes be multi-branched at the base if it's been cut-off with some green left behind (like if it was shredded with a brush hog) or heavily browsed.

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i'll take a closer look next time i'm at the lease. i think it must be a combination of both. shredded ashe juniper and red juniper spreading like crazy.

when i was a kid back in the 90s, we used to go my dad's friend's place near Sonora. driving along I10 between Junction and Sonora, you used to be able to see this really amazing rock formation. really hard for me to describe. but, it basically like a column of land that did not erode with the rest of the land. no idea how wide the top was maybe 50-70 ft in diameter and the formation was probably at least that tall probably taller than the surrounding land.

you can't even see it now from i10. it's been totally obscured by juniper growth.

Lance in Round Mountain said:

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Furlock Bones said:

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Get Off My Lawn said:

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Lance in Round Mountain said:

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Gunny456 said:

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Born and raised and live in the hill country my entire life. Don't believe I can say I have ever seen a red berry juniper. Can you post a good picture of one ? Where are they most prevalent? TIA.
I know TAMU ext. has them in Oklahoma, West Texas, Arizona, Mexico. But not the HC. Says they are a hybrid of the alligator juniper.
Have they moved in to central Texas?

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link to Redberry juniper info

This is a great data source and includes some photos of redberry juniper and lists distribution in TX. I think the best characteristics to help with ID are:

• typically multi-branched at the base
• of course red berries (when present)
• white wax glands on leaves

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So there's a WORSE cedar?!? Don't worry about that odd cloud forming overhead: it's just my despair.

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so, that's what i'm wondering. i've asked a couple of times over the years why all of these junipers seem to grow like bushes rather than trees. i was told it was because they were new growth. but, now i am pretty dang sure they are red junipers.

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Very likely you are seeing redberry juniper (check those branches, leaves for the white wax glands). Ashe juniper will sometimes be multi-branched at the base if it's been cut-off with some green left behind (like if it was shredded with a brush hog) or heavily browsed.

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We have tons of it multi branch from the base. May be from deer eating off the new growth on seedlings but ther's as much multibranched as there are single trunks. Here's one of the single trunks I cut up for a guy out here. .......and I've seen bigger.

Rattler12 said:

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Lance in Round Mountain said:

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Furlock Bones said:

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Get Off My Lawn said:

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Lance in Round Mountain said:

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Gunny456 said:

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Born and raised and live in the hill country my entire life. Don't believe I can say I have ever seen a red berry juniper. Can you post a good picture of one ? Where are they most prevalent? TIA.
I know TAMU ext. has them in Oklahoma, West Texas, Arizona, Mexico. But not the HC. Says they are a hybrid of the alligator juniper.
Have they moved in to central Texas?

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link to Redberry juniper info

This is a great data source and includes some photos of redberry juniper and lists distribution in TX. I think the best characteristics to help with ID are:

• typically multi-branched at the base
• of course red berries (when present)
• white wax glands on leaves

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So there's a WORSE cedar?!? Don't worry about that odd cloud forming overhead: it's just my despair.

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so, that's what i'm wondering. i've asked a couple of times over the years why all of these junipers seem to grow like bushes rather than trees. i was told it was because they were new growth. but, now i am pretty dang sure they are red junipers.

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Very likely you are seeing redberry juniper (check those branches, leaves for the white wax glands). Ashe juniper will sometimes be multi-branched at the base if it's been cut-off with some green left behind (like if it was shredded with a brush hog) or heavily browsed.

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We have tons of it multi branch from the base. May be from deer eating off the new growth on seedlings but ther's as much multibranched as there are single trunks. Here's one of the single trunks I cut up for a guy out here. .......and I've seen bigger.

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That's a big 'ol cedar (I mean juniper)... shh... warblers..

Always saw a cedar off below the lowest limb. It won't come back. Red cedar.......forget it, your screwed.

So they aren't Indians?

Get Off My Lawn said:

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Lance in Round Mountain said:

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Gunny456 said:

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Born and raised and live in the hill country my entire life. Don't believe I can say I have ever seen a red berry juniper. Can you post a good picture of one ? Where are they most prevalent? TIA.
I know TAMU ext. has them in Oklahoma, West Texas, Arizona, Mexico. But not the HC. Says they are a hybrid of the alligator juniper.
Have they moved in to central Texas?

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link to Redberry juniper info

This is a great data source and includes some photos of redberry juniper and lists distribution in TX. I think the best characteristics to help with ID are:

• typically multi-branched at the base
• of course red berries (when present)
• white wax glands on leaves

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So there's a WORSE cedar?!? Don't worry about that odd cloud forming overhead: it's just my despair.

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Absolutely! I'd much rather have "blueberry" (ash) juniper than the red. Nasty sprouter.

For those of you out there that like to cure your own hams, mashing some berries from an Ash Juniper and adding them to the brine solution adds a nice flavor tone to the ham. I've been tempted to try to make some gin from them but am too lazy.....

Because cedar is a lot nicer than "*********devil tree"

#allergies

This all started when one settler asked another: "Cedar juniper over dere?"

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Nice! So forever then. Next thing you know Buffalo will actually be Bison.

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True story: The Brazos River and Colorado Rivers were switched.
When the Spanish discovered them, they called the one that was chocolaty red the "Colorado River" (that's what the name means) and the one with lots of tributaries or "arms" the Brazos River (brazos = arms).

This was all great, until some cartographer screwed up and swapped them on a map. They've been wrong ever since.

But I heard that " the Brazos still runs muddy like she's runed all along.."

DoitBest said:

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But I heard that " the Brazos still runs muddy like she's runed all along.."

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Yep. I refer to REK on this one.