Alright you purveyors of fine knowledge and experience. Here is a question for you and I am looking for all the details you can for why you make the recommendation you do. Ruger Mini 30, AK, or AR in 7.62x39. Which is your preference and why?
7.62x39 platform preferences
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Last: 1 yr ago by Eliminatus
7.62x39 is a commie round. It deserves to be shot from a commie gun
We have a Ruger mini 30 as our ranch truck rifle. It does not cycle steel ammo well if you are planning on slinging some cheap stuff. Other than that it is a good gun.
I have an 7.62x39 in an AR platform because I got a smokin deal on it, but it is a pig killing machine. I would love a commie gun to shoot the commie round out of though.
AK all the way
I shot a couple CMMGs on a thermal hog hunt. They were pretty awesome.
Brn180 has been a ton of fun to shoot. Ease of AR. Foldable and no buffer tube.
Also the BRN-180 is made by PWS
Also the BRN-180 is made by PWS
AK, for sure.
More reliable mags than 7.62x39 ARs, and its good to know how the most common gun in the world works.
Spending time getting to know how to shoot an AK gives you a great appreciation for what an outstanding firearm the AR really is.
General rule of AKs is buy foreign if you can, though thats gotten a lot harder the last few years.
Zastava would be my current recommendation.
More reliable mags than 7.62x39 ARs, and its good to know how the most common gun in the world works.
Spending time getting to know how to shoot an AK gives you a great appreciation for what an outstanding firearm the AR really is.
General rule of AKs is buy foreign if you can, though thats gotten a lot harder the last few years.
Zastava would be my current recommendation.
Please tell me those are two different guns and you did not paint that wood that way....
PWS is the answer you seek
I've been putting a PSA "American B-stard" 12.7 inch through the ringer lately and it has been rock solid and accurate. Picked it up because you can get it with a threaded 1/2x28 barrel, thus a .30 cal rifle can is usable and no barrel/concentric issues.
Galil Ace. Takes all the positives of the AKs operating system but fixes all of the AK crappiness. Can actually mount scopes reliably, a folding stock that still has a good cheek weld (AR compatible), safety you can reach, left side operating handle.
https://iwi.us/product/galil-ace-gen-ii-rifle-7-62x39mm-gar37/
https://iwi.us/product/galil-ace-gen-ii-rifle-7-62x39mm-gar37/
There are a lot of posters with a LOT more experience than me.
But I have one semi auto scary to democrats gun that I shoot and stay competent with, and that's a Norinco Mak-90(AK Variant).
Great balance, great trigger(especially for a scary gun), great open sites, eats everything I feed it, recoil is mild on a bad day, not too loud, 18 inch barrel.
They are expensive. But I have shot, I dont know, a 15-20 different AK variants and it is the best by a mile that I have shot.
But I have one semi auto scary to democrats gun that I shoot and stay competent with, and that's a Norinco Mak-90(AK Variant).
Great balance, great trigger(especially for a scary gun), great open sites, eats everything I feed it, recoil is mild on a bad day, not too loud, 18 inch barrel.
They are expensive. But I have shot, I dont know, a 15-20 different AK variants and it is the best by a mile that I have shot.
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PWS. all day.
CZ VZ-58. Makes the AK look and feel like a stamped POS (because it is).
CZ 527
I've had or still have Aks, sks's, and a mini 30. I like them all to be honest. 527 is just my favorite. No interest in the AR.
I've had or still have Aks, sks's, and a mini 30. I like them all to be honest. 527 is just my favorite. No interest in the AR.
FIDO 96 said:
CZ VZ-58. Makes the AK look and feel like a stamped POS (because it is).
You never handled a milled AK have you? I have a 1958 Polish Type 3 and I much prefer it over my Vz58. In my opinion AK-47(milled)>Vz58>AKM variants.
Get an AK. Had a Radical AR in 7.62x39 and couldn't get it reliable. Swapped out the firing pin for a longer one, stiffer trigger spring, and ran c products duramags and the thing would still get feeding problems and light primer strikes all the time. Sold that gun not long after I bought it and don't miss it at all
Love Zastava. Its a travesty how those have to be shipped over and completely re-manufactured.BenderRodriguez said:
You must not have done many of those little "spot the differences" puzzles as a kidShouldastayedataTm said:
Please tell me those are two different guns and you did not paint that wood that way....
Went straight to an AR in the Commie round, had heard the magazine/feed issues had been corrected, indeed was the case for me. I can't recall any failure to feed, from three different x39 AR's.
Reliable ignition of the steel case stuff has been an issue, especially if the AR trigger has been changed or improved, but as I reload for mine, not a real concern.
Had so much fun improving the Commie round performance, I also bought a Howa mini-action bolt gun. Very impressed!
Reliable ignition of the steel case stuff has been an issue, especially if the AR trigger has been changed or improved, but as I reload for mine, not a real concern.
Had so much fun improving the Commie round performance, I also bought a Howa mini-action bolt gun. Very impressed!
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I have a Zastava ZPAP M70
It's so damn fun. Great quality too.
It's so damn fun. Great quality too.
GSS said:
Went straight to an AR in the Commie round, had heard the magazine/feed issues had been corrected, indeed was the case for me. I can't recall any failure to feed, from three different x39 AR's.
Reliable ignition of the steel case stuff has been an issue, especially if the AR trigger has been changed or improved, but as I reload for mine, not a real concern.
Had so much fun improving the Commie round performance, I also bought a Howa mini-action bolt gun. Very impressed!
What mags are you running? I've got a 7.62x39 short stroke piston build that I just got cycling smooth. Mags are still an issue though, FMJs feed through my 20rd Duramag no problem but neither my ASCs nor Duramags like HPs. I've been reading good things about D&H mags.
I have a converted Saiga and it might be my favorite rifle. But I can't find anyone who will install a flash hider and I'm too worried that I'll screw it up if I try to do it myself.
Thanks everyone. Sounds like I have more research to do. And no did not play a lot of picture difference games, though looking closer I see several now.
Just buy a Zpap M70.
You won't regret it.
You won't regret it.
ASC mags, 10 and 20 round units.
Edited: I cannot tell any difference between 10 round x39/6.8SPC magazines; follower and body appear identical (and both work in either upper).
Edited: I cannot tell any difference between 10 round x39/6.8SPC magazines; follower and body appear identical (and both work in either upper).
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Oldman04 said:FIDO 96 said:
CZ VZ-58. Makes the AK look and feel like a stamped POS (because it is).
You never handled a milled AK have you? I have a 1958 Polish Type 3 and I much prefer it over my Vz58. In my opinion AK-47(milled)>Vz58>AKM variants.
IIRC, a VZ58 is around a pound lighter than a milled AK.
If you have both, Czech yourself.
I always wanted one for the collection. Finally broke down and bought a Century Arms WASR 10. Never realized how much I'd like it. I won't shoot Wolf or any steel crap in any gun I care about, however a Commie gun and Commie ammo is a match made in heaven. I've taken it to several local carbine matches and it's been flawless.
I have an AK right out of COD. But if anyone asks, lost it in a boating accident.
SKS , open sight dead on at 300 m, smooth operating rifle with never an issue.
Sig 556R. I bought it to kill pigs, Eotech site on top, great gun. Cycles everything I've put in it, including steel.
I have the same. Great rifle, shoots straight, will eat any ammo. I traded for mine. The previous owner, a friend of mine, had replaced the wood stock with a composite. It is a pig killing machine.C ROC N said:
SKS , open sight dead on at 300 m, smooth operating rifle with never an issue.
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