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https://www.primerpeak.com/new-30-super-carry-handgun-caliber/amp/

Nm. Wrong caliber.

Interesting. New caliber.

Souped up .32ACP?

Ballistics has it close to 9MM in 100 and 115gr offerings so far. Doubt it will sway people here but if they can squeeze in +2 rds into a shield with little real loss in power, wonder what that would do with full sizes? Could we get full size 22-25 Rd MP30s?

Also, saw elsewhere that this would be great for the LCP and gotta agree.

I am a little lost. Is it an actually .30? .32?

Edit- Those ballistics look very similar to a .32 mag.


I wonder how snappy it is. And how loud it is.

Since I can't sleep because of some sudden major sinus pressure, I just read several forums about it. I saw a couple that said it was loaded to 50,000 PSI. If, and that's a big if, it is loaded that high that is going to sound like a cannon going off indoors.

.327 Federal is 45,000 and it is really freaking loud. So loud that most, including me, use .32 mag.


I get the idea but I am already half deaf in one ear.

Moving away from revolver alone makes a huge difference.

CS78 said:

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Moving away from revolver alone makes a huge difference.

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That's a good point. I was going for .32 cal comparisons.

A more accurate comparison would probably be .357 Sig to 9mm. I used to have a Glock 32 in .357 sig which is the same frame as a 19 in 9mm. The .357 Sig loads to 40k which is 5-10k more than most 9mm. It was quite a bit snappier and louder, but not to the degree of the .327 Federal.



At any rate, that will be the first thing I look for in this new caliber. Is the extra speed worth the tradeoff.

Seems like terrible timing to rollout a new cali when current favs are so hard to find.

JSKolache said:

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Seems like terrible timing to rollout a new cali when current favs are so hard to find.

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I wonder how long it has been in development.

But I totally agree. I will be a little irked when I can't find .357 mag as I stare at shelves full of .30 super. Kind of like .350 legend for the last year.

30 Super Carry (more like 32 or 8mm)

Actual dimensions 7.95x22mm

But why.

Similar to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.65%C3%9720mm_Longue

French 7.65x20mm Longue is more anemic ... shocking!

agsalaska said:

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CS78 said:

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Moving away from revolver alone makes a huge difference.

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That's a good point. I was going for .32 cal comparisons.

A more accurate comparison would probably be .357 Sig to 9mm. I used to have a Glock 32 in .357 sig which is the same frame as a 19 in 9mm. The .357 Sig loads to 40k which is 5-10k more than most 9mm. It was quite a bit snappier and louder, but not to the degree of the .327 Federal.



At any rate, that will be the first thing I look for in this new caliber. Is the extra speed worth the tradeoff.

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I have a G32 and a G19. Was really shocked at the recoil difference when shooting them back to back. There's really something to be said about carrying a low recoil gun for accurate follow up shots in a self defense scenario where there's a potential for collateral damage. My Hellcat is also much snappier than the G19. Probably worth it to carry at least a compact frame gun if you can do so comfortably.

In a truncated cone FMJ, could be a nifty round.

It's almost like a shortened .30 carbine, It's a .30 Special!

Much like the 6ARC, not sure an extended ammo shortage is the best time to introduce "new".

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In a truncated cone FMJ, could be a nifty round.

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I am guessing its snappiness will make it harder to shoot than a 9mm and negate the advantage of two more rounds.

I promise to buy one and be a test dummy.

I'd only be interested in it in a true micro style pistol, like my kimber micro 9. Going from 10/11 to 12/13 rounds doesn't do much for me but if I could go from 7 to 9 in my Kimber I'd be pretty ecstatic. That said, no clue what the recoil would be. It's actually a reasonably tame pistol right now for being so small.

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I'd only be interested in it in a true micro style pistol, like my kimber micro 9. Going from 10/11 to 12/13 rounds doesn't do much for me but if I could go from 7 to 9 in my Kimber I'd be pretty ecstatic. That said, no clue what the recoil would be. It's actually a reasonably tame pistol right now for being so small.

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I'd be interested if they could give me something sized halfway between my LCP 380 and Hellcat with something in the 7-10 round range. Recoil might be a factor with that pressure, projectile weight, and pistol mass though. Pocket carry is the only way I feel comfortable carrying and the LCP is very comfortable and the Hellcat is a little too bulky. Something in between in size with a little more oomph than the 380 would be right up my alley.

More info is now available and TFB did a good breakdown with that released data for anyone interested.

I was already admittedly interested and now, I am quite interested to be honest. I have always firmly believed that there was a need for a commercial caliber in between .380 and 9mm and this appears to be exactly that with it erring more on the 9mm side.

Yup, definitely interested. Don't think this is going to be a "why does this exist" like some of the more recent rifle calibers recently released but be completely viable as a pistol caliber moving forward.

I am interested as well. I bought a .357 Sig and .327 Federal pretty early on and while I don't use either now I do use a .327 gun for .32 mag. I will own one of these as soon as they are available.

My questions that need to be answered are

1. Is it too loud?
2. Is it too snappy?

That question doesn;t apply to me necessarily but to the masses which will dictate it's ling term survival. I firmly believe that both the .357 Sig and .327 Federal failed both of those questions and is why they are, while maybe not obscure, are in the low single digits of ammo sales.

You have to offer more than a 9mm, .380, and .38 special. We will see.

Has anyone tried to order one yet?

50,000 psi is guaranteed to be loud.

May or may not be snappy. I always found 40
Snappy but not 357 sig or 10MM.

But, hell, I'd be happy with a reworked 25ACP, without a rim, and a flat nose, and 22 mag ballistics.

If course Hickok45 got his hands on one. great comparison.

Forgot link

Didn't watch it all the way through, but did catch him say a few times it felt no different than the 9mm. Not sure what he concluded but I would have assumed reduced recoil was one of the goals of this round.

For those new to this channel I have been following Hickok45 for years and have watched probably 90% of his videos. He is a little more long winded now in his old age. His videos could be edited down to 20 minutes. He is also 6'7, a retired school teacher, lives in Tennessee, and that badass range is about 30 yards from his house.

That being said, yes, his impressions are that it is a tic snappier than a 9mm. Advantage and the only advantage he sees is extra mag capacity. He clearly demonstrated that for those that prefer the low recoil of a .380 the .30 super is not for you.