Will it work for basal spray mixed 25%/75% diesel? Not finding much with google. Already going to have this made up for some other species.

I've used Remedy & diesel on some very small cedars (below the knee in height) and had some success. Wouldn't recommend trying it on larger ones, would be difficult to get to trunk . . .

It would be mid sized mostly. 4-6" base. Very few low limbs because theyre growing tall skinny amongst the yaupon and post oak. I've been poll sawing them but that gets cumbersome in the woods. I girdled a big one during the summer as a test. It just died a few weeks back. But making a full circle with the saw is a pain.

Might try hack and squirt. Is there a better chemical that would also zap yaupon and tallow?

I've used it in Coleman county on red berry? Juniper aka cedar but not really cedar. I didn't have much success w basilar spray on mature trees. As other poster said, little sprouts below the knee responded well. If you use cut stump method w remedy/diesel you'll be good to go. Of course that means you have to cut them down and paint them pretty quickly. Get the cut surface wet and the entire remaining sides 360 around each stump/stalk.

Odds are you have eastern red cedar. Never tried chemical on them.

If it is Ashe Juniper (blue berries) they will die if you remove all the green. So if you are having to physically cut it you do not need to apply any chemicals at all. Just make sure all of the leaves are removed.

You can kill Ashe Juniper with herbicides. I have done it with Surmount (picloram). But it is just not worth all of the chemical it takes to cover the dense foliage. IMO.

I keep my place free of Ashe Juniper with just a chainsaw. I hate them as they take up a lot of water and definitely crowd out neighboring flora.

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Will it work for basal spray mixed 25%/75% diesel? Not finding much with google. Already going to have this made up for some other species.

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I'm a big fan of triclopyr (Remedy) sprayed basally, but I've found that it really doesn't lay a glove on cedar and juniper.

I've used two chemicals that do control it.

As mentioned above, picloram (Tordon) is very effective. While you can spray it on the foliage, it's tough to kill the bigger stuff that way. Instead, I've cut (3) slits into the soil around the tree just inside the dripline and poured in a small amount of straight chemical. I don't have the formula in front of me, but it was maybe a couple of ounces total. In about 3 weeks the tree starts to die and in a couple of months it's gone.

If you've got a bunch to do, that would be too tedious, though.

I've also found that Imazapyr (Arsenal) will kill it if sprayed on the foliage. But like with the picloram, getting coverage on the bigger stuff can be tough.

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As mentioned above, picloram (Tordon) is very effective. While you can spray it on the foliage, it's tough to kill the bigger stuff that way. Instead, I've cut (3) slits into the soil around the tree just inside the dripline and poured in a small amount of straight chemical. I don't have the formula in front of me, but it was maybe a couple of ounces total. In about 3 weeks the tree starts to die and in a couple of months it's gone.

If you've got a bunch to do, that would be too tedious, though.

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Thanks. With that, a search pulled up this. "........soil treatments of undiluted hexazinone (Velpar L), applied at 2 ml/3 ft of juniper height or diameter, beneath the juniper canopy. Ashe juniper can also be controlled with soil treatments of undiluted picloram applied at 4 ml/3 ft of canopy height or diameter,...."

That really doesnt sound bad at all. A gallon would go a long ways. Except I assume this would be a really bad idea anywhere near post oak roots.

DO NOT USE VELPAR. IT WILL KILL ANY NEARBY OAK TREES.

Always check the label. I do not think picloram is labeled for direct soil application. It is also very mobile in the soil, so be aware of shallow water tables and nearby desirable species.

Sometimes herbicide is not the answer, and cedars typically fall into that category.

Power pellets or velpar is another option

Foliar spray surmount if they're small

DO NOT USE VELPAR OR SOIL APPLIED PICLORAM UNLESS YOU WANT DAMAGE TO SURROUNDING TREES.

Once again, if it's post oak and youpon country, you likely have eastern red cedar.

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Once again, if it's post oak and youpon country, you likely have eastern red cedar.

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Is there an easy way to tell? I'll take some pics today.

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Once again, if it's post oak and youpon country, you likely have eastern red cedar.

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Is there an easy way to tell? I'll take some pics today.

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More a professional judgement. Ashe juniper rarely grows in association with post oak and youpon. That's clay pan savannah vegetation. You may find it in isolated Edwards Plateau Redland sites, but that's mostly an east Texas vegetation you are describing.

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If it is Ashe Juniper (blue berries) they will die if you remove all the green. So if you are having to physically cut it you do not need to apply any chemicals at all. Just make sure all of the leaves are removed.

You can kill Ashe Juniper with herbicides. I have done it with Surmount (picloram). But it is just not worth all of the chemical it takes to cover the dense foliage. IMO.

I keep my place free of Ashe Juniper with just a chainsaw. I hate them as they take up a lot of water and definitely crowd out neighboring flora.

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Pretty good size ash juniper. We milled 6 or 7 this size. Unfortunately some were rotten in the middle but the man wanted them milled anyway

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Once again, if it's post oak and youpon country, you likely have eastern red cedar.

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Is there an easy way to tell? I'll take some pics today.

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More a professional judgement. Ashe juniper rarely grows in association with post oak and youpon. That's clay pan savannah vegetation. You may find it in isolated Edwards Plateau Redland sites, but that's mostly an east Texas vegetation you are describing.

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We have post oaks in west central Comal CO . Lots of them. We also have a form of yaupon . lots of it too.

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Once again, if it's post oak and youpon country, you likely have eastern red cedar.

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Is there an easy way to tell? I'll take some pics today.

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More a professional judgement. Ashe juniper rarely grows in association with post oak and youpon. That's clay pan savannah vegetation. You may find it in isolated Edwards Plateau Redland sites, but that's mostly an east Texas vegetation you are describing.

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We have post oaks in west central Comal CO . Lots of them. We also have a form of yaupon . lots of it too.

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Redland range site, like I was describing. It happens, but generally that post oak - youpon - RED CEDAR complex at the density the OP is describing is a clay pan savannah vegetation type.

OP. What Allen76 says is spot on. We cleared 750 acres of *****ly pear with Surmount. The guys spraying it said they could catch cedars up to 4-5ft and smaller with it as they were going around spraying the cactus. I told them to go for it....bad mistake.... it was very effective at killing it but totally non cost effective. After one week I told them to just do the cactus or it was going to bankrupt me!
I bought a tree shear to use on my skid steer.
No more cedar now.

Let me know if you need more pics.

Looks like red cedar to me.

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Looks like red cedar to me.

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Thanks. Guess I always thought of them as the narrow cedar Christmas trees when young, and big tall tree when mature.