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I'm not licensed electrician, but that should work for a 30a setup. My electrician setup a 50a manual switch, with the inlet directly below the main box. He had to relocate one of my breakers to make room for the new 50a & interlock.


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Tx95Ag
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sawemoffshort07 said:

To piggyback on this, I am wanting to add a generator connect to my panel. From my understanding, I will need the below. Am I missing anything?

Receptacle:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08GLJRR4K/ref=syn_sd_onsite_desktop_300?psc=1&uh_it=d64819390f96c149db720f333d5e52fa_CT&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExQkVHWDA5OThVS1FPJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDg5NTg3M0tLQjNKQzNCRlRHViZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMjA0MDkyMVdEUlBKMkkyUEpNViZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNkX29uc2l0ZV9kZXNrdG9wJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

Conduit (any outdoor rated that fits this wire) and wire to breaker:
https://www.amazon.com/SOOW-10-Bulk-Cable-Resistant/dp/B07H9F1KJW/ref=sr_1_9?dchild=1&keywords=30+amp+romex&qid=1614023825&sr=8-9

New breaker:
https://www.amazon.com/Cutler-Hammer-BAB2030-Circuit-Breaker/dp/B00KXJTSQ0/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1HSV5GYKQFHTW&dchild=1&keywords=eaton+2+pole+30+amp+breaker&qid=1614023999&sprefix=eaton+2+pole+%2Caps%2C196&sr=8-4

Interlock:
https://www.amazon.com/Square-Schneider-Electric-HOMCGK2C-Generator/dp/B00CONE4MG/ref=sr_1_10?crid=10P7RBAMMDXHV&dchild=1&keywords=breaker+panel+interlock+kit&qid=1614024062&sprefix=breaker+panel+inter%2Caps%2C204&sr=8-10

I don't know if SO cord is suitable for a permanent installation inside a wall, code wise. Any NEC experts?

Other than that, I think you've got it. I am looking at doing the same thing, but installing 50A rated.
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Is the SO cord from the gen to the receptacle or from the receptacle to the panelboard. NEC 400.8 prohibits you from installing SOOW in a raceway (conduit) as this is intended for a permanent install. Would go with #10 THHN/THWN from the board to the receptacle.

Any reason why you wouldnt go with a 50A rated install incase you got a gen capable of running 12kW? Just curious.
Tx95Ag
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I also just noticed you linked a 3 conductor SO cord, but the plug is 4 prong. Need to get 4 conductor cable.
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So my panel is full at the moment. Could I re-wire with tandem breakers to make room for an interlock system?

Thoughts on making room with all the gfci and those test things? Can you put the gfci on a tandem?

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Square-D-Homeline-2-20-Amp-Single-Pole-Tandem-Circuit-Breaker-HOMT2020CP/202353308

Also not totally sure how I get the generator power to the box that's recessed in the wall inside garage with brick on back.
sawemoffshort07
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Tx95Ag and TopFlightReject,

That was more of a making sure I had the right thinking and the right parts, not necessarily these exact ones. I would likely do a 50A if doing it since its a nominal price increase for a fairly substantial increase in power. As I look into this more, I will definitely reach back out to confirm exact parts. The wiring is assuredly the part I have most question with from an Amp standpoint and where it is routed. This is on a rear brick wall, so the install will be via conduit from the panel to the connection.

Also, I have researched but wanted to ask those that know, I have a 4ton (48,000btu) 16 SEER Ruud AC unit. Could I operate it with a 12k generator? From my research, it seems the answer is no.
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They have tri fuel conversion kits, transfer switches and all the cool accessories you may need to make a portable generator efficient and easy to use to power your home.

https://genconnexdirect.net/honda_generator_propane_kits.htm#xl_EU2000i:32KIT
TopFlightReject
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A 12kW generator should run your AC and air handler just fine. It's going to be the starting amps or LRA of the compressor that might be a problem. It's about 5-6 times the running amps of the compressor. Depending on the generator it might not have enough ass to ride through that much of a short time load on the system. Your best bet might be one or two of the portable AC units if you need the AC. The circuitry will be fine as I bet your AC is fed by a 50A 2pole breaker. It's going to be the mover that's going to drop out.

I've seen evidence of 17kW portables starting a 5ton high efficiency unit that'll dim some lights. Lol.
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Before going into a proposed part list, it seems I have already hit my first snag. I have an Eaton BR125 Panel and the main breaker is not set centered above the two columns, rather it is taking up the top two slots on the left side. I do have two available slots just across, being the top two left slots. Is there an interlock available for this setup, or do I need to have the main breaker moved?

Edit: I think this is it https://www.amazon.com/Eaton-Generator-Interlock-100A-125A-BRMIKBR/dp/B00JV3ESD2/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=BRMIKBR&qid=1614107103&sr=8-1#customerReviews
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