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TThom
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Ag_07 said:

So who's gonna start the new thread because this one is about to go the way of the old one.


Pretty sure a reporter or someone acting shady nuked the old thread
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appreciate the stories - I'm currently fascinated with tracking dogs.
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ursusguy said:

One of the basic tenets when you have multiple dog teams is making sure the handlers work independent of each other. Otherwise, the handlers may unconsciously bias themselves. In Johnson County we had the "super baby" case. Toddler went missing from effectively a drug house. 3 dog teams were brought in. Note this was in the middle of August about 12 years ago. Two came in pretty close to each other time wise. Dog one hit a scent, crossed the road and went straight to a pond about across the road and about 50 yards out in a pasture. There was one toddler foot print at the edge of the pond. This brought all search efforts to a halt (bad idea, but that was on the Sheriff's department). Later I would be shown the track and it was not from that day. Dog #2 followed the exact same path. Hasty grid of the pond, nothing. Dog #3 was a lab know to be a really good trailer. Right as they got ready to start, a deputy mentioned what the other 2 dogs did. The dog initially started the same way, but turned at the end of the trailer house headed to the back fence. As we watched, for whatever reason, the handler pulled off the dog, and it veered back and took the exact same route as the other 2 dogs....48 hours, the baby was found sitting next to a stock tank about 2 miles due north of the trailer. Wearing a clean diaper......yeah. Never heard how the investigation worked out.

Burleson roughly 2004. Cocaine stung out diabetic with no shoes crashed his car along I-35. Best guess was he freaked out and ran. Canine got him to an apartment parking lot across the highway, and then lost. Area was "throughly" searched by various leo agencies. He was eventually found about 76 yards away in a bridge culvert entombed in mud.
..you know, the first place you should probably look.


*Bloodhound was an odd deal. This was down around Rusk in the middle of the summer around 2006 (don't hold me to the year). 75 year old, supposedly with Alzihmers disappeared (but no one other than a daughter seemed to know anything about the Alzihmers, the husband never mentioned it in his interview). She was annoyed with the husband about something, and did her usual walk it off. She was in good shape for her age, and was known to be content walking a good distance (Alzihmers patients in good physical shape are a royal pain to hunt for). Poof nothing. I don't remember how or why, but a Texas Ranger was involved and suddenly we had a TDCJ bloodhound on scene. Dog took the expected route, but before hitting a small highway, veered off across a pasture. Hit a fence and nada. The fenceline was fairly overgrown and no signs of vehicular traffic. Very little doubt she went that way, but might as well be an alien abduction. Last time I checked, she never was found.
Was recently asked to assist in a MP search. Not exactly a culvert but similar, the body was found in a roadway drainage structure not more than a 3 minute walk from the person's car. Dogs completely missed it (though to be fair I'd imagine rain, snow and time complicated the situation).

If I'm looking at the correct spot on google earth this TSU student incident took place, there appears to be a couple of decent-sized creeks or draws going under the road pretty close to where I'm understanding the car was found...surely someone has already looked at those?
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I'm curious about whether they sent a cadaver dog out there in the days or weeks after his disappearance.
PrestigeWorldwideAg12
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Another theory based off the dad's actions and calmness.

IT was all set up and his dad was in on it AND the police are in on it just to keep the kid safe. Maybe he did get involved into something bad and made a deal to rat our the bad guys. Maybe he is in protected hiding now until the bad dudes are busted. Maybe he made a sweet deal to not get in trouble.

Not likely but hell what is normalcy anymore
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PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:

Another theory based off the dad's actions and calmness.

IT was all set up and his dad was in on it AND the police are in on it just to keep the kid safe. Maybe he did get involved into something bad and made a deal to rat our the bad guys. Maybe he is in protected hiding now until the bad dudes are busted. Maybe he made a sweet deal to not get in trouble.

Not likely but hell what is normalcy anymore
What movie is this from?
AggieFabricator
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As many as five during initial search, not sure since then, I've heard the dad say recently there are still folks searching the area, but I guess maybe they're not professional searchers.
UhOhNoAgTag
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I think he said that private property owners have been searching their land.
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Martin Cash
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PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:

Another theory based off the dad's actions and calmness.

IT was all set up and his dad was in on it AND the police are in on it just to keep the kid safe. Maybe he did get involved into something bad and made a deal to rat our the bad guys. Maybe he is in protected hiding now until the bad dudes are busted. Maybe he made a sweet deal to not get in trouble.

Not likely but hell what is normalcy anymore
Are you friends with Grapesoda?
PrestigeWorldwideAg12
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Guys... chill. I was bored on a conference call and just came up with that randomness.
UhOhNoAgTag
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There were a couple links to dispatch calls posted in a private "missing" group. Cops did see clothes, smelled MJ through busted rear windshield.

They issued BOLO for him. Patrolled several roads in the area and checked 2 abandoned houses. Called Texas State. Was taking online classes only. No on campus address, only dad address on file.
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Anyone heard anything new?
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Luling is starting to become a Bermuda Triangle of sorts.
UhOhNoAgTag
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If he's still alive, doubt he's in Luling. Probably about 45 miles north on Hwy 183 blending in.
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shiftyandquick said:

I don't buy the "son and dad are guilty" theory. I think that's ridiculous. So dad doesn't want son to be found, purposefully holding back information that could allow his son to be found, because of some big bad secret.

The competing theory here is that the police in Luling are incompetent.

I'll take #2.

Used to live next door to old school retired Dallas police officer. As in, he knew JD Tippitt pretty well. Not best buddies or anything but from that era. Anyway, I got loads of stories, some of which centered on multi-jurisdictional issues. Often times, the FBI would come in and gunk things up at one time or another. As my neighbor would say, "the FBI were masterful at things like bank robberies and kidnappings (remember, we're talking way back when), but they couldn't solve a murder if you had the guy with a body, a knife dripping blood AND a confession."

Point: I'm sure Lulig police do what they normally do mostly fine. This is the obscure missing persons case that most police departments probably wouldn't handle well in any case. Not sure I'd go all the way to incompetent.
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91AggieLawyer said:

shiftyandquick said:

I don't buy the "son and dad are guilty" theory. I think that's ridiculous. So dad doesn't want son to be found, purposefully holding back information that could allow his son to be found, because of some big bad secret.

The competing theory here is that the police in Luling are incompetent.

I'll take #2.

Used to live next door to old school retired Dallas police officer. As in, he knew JD Tippitt pretty well. Not best buddies or anything but from that era. Anyway, I got loads of stories, some of which centered on multi-jurisdictional issues. Often times, the FBI would come in and gunk things up at one time or another. As my neighbor would say, "the FBI were masterful at things like bank robberies and kidnappings (remember, we're talking way back when), but they couldn't solve a murder if you had the guy with a body, a knife dripping blood AND a confession."

Point: I'm sure Lulig police do what they normally do mostly fine. This is the obscure missing persons case that most police departments probably wouldn't handle well in any case. Not sure I'd go all the way to incompetent.
Didn't happen in Luling. SO case and Rangers.
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just looking at this thread, did they ever find the college kid? weird story to say the least
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91AggieLawyer said:

shiftyandquick said:

I don't buy the "son and dad are guilty" theory. I think that's ridiculous. So dad doesn't want son to be found, purposefully holding back information that could allow his son to be found, because of some big bad secret.

The competing theory here is that the police in Luling are incompetent.

I'll take #2.

Used to live next door to old school retired Dallas police officer. As in, he knew JD Tippitt pretty well. Not best buddies or anything but from that era. Anyway, I got loads of stories, some of which centered on multi-jurisdictional issues. Often times, the FBI would come in and gunk things up at one time or another. As my neighbor would say, "the FBI were masterful at things like bank robberies and kidnappings (remember, we're talking way back when), but they couldn't solve a murder if you had the guy with a body, a knife dripping blood AND a confession."

Point: I'm sure Lulig police do what they normally do mostly fine. This is the obscure missing persons case that most police departments probably wouldn't handle well in any case. Not sure I'd go all the way to incompetent.
Luling doesn't generally run these types of cases and call in the Rangers for assistance. I think Ranger Benoist still covers the Luling area.
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Starting a new 3 day search this Friday.

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/02/25/jason-landry-investigation-texas-search-and-rescue-commencing-3-day-search/6814780002/?utm_source=SND&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=statesman&fbclid=IwAR2ge0TPkUAPCvILq7hkIU2BJZb_1L_gO10x5AD3yRWGyrXbKza8b7aVI6Y
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Quote:

Friday's 100 volunteers will include search and rescue K9's trained in human remains detection.

I think this gets solved on Friday.
John Cocktolstoy
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Don't hold your breath.
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MsDoubleD81
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ATX_AG_08 said:

Starting a new 3 day search this Friday.

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/02/25/jason-landry-investigation-texas-search-and-rescue-commencing-3-day-search/6814780002/?utm_source=SND&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=statesman&fbclid=IwAR2ge0TPkUAPCvILq7hkIU2BJZb_1L_gO10x5AD3yRWGyrXbKza8b7aVI6Y


I guess they didn't find anything?
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I saw some of the search team as I was driving by on 86 today while I was returning from a fishing tournament around 2:30. They were near the highway between Soda Springs Rd and Pumper Rd. I guess the search teams were in the black trucks (all had red and blue flashing lights on, along with a couple of sheriff dept cars).....anyway, because of the flashing lights and the number of vehicles in one area, I thought they might have found something. But, no news probably means "no news" I assume. Still strange to me to have lights flashing sitting on an oilfield pad several hundreds yards off the highway.
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FB page for Jason says this after the searches this weekend:


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The search teams covered miles of terrain on horseback, motorized vehicles and foot. Thankfully, everyone was safe and sound at the end of the weekend. We continue to analyze and follow up on search results and data collected
John Cocktolstoy
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If the family of this kid really has no clue what he has been up to for the last year then maybe they really don't know what is going on and he has dissapeared on his own. Feel bad for them not knowing whether he is okay or not. I keep going back to things, some discussed some not.
1. Friends of his talking about the Rapture and him acting weird
2. Have you noticed his change of apperance from facebook pictures to when he dissapeared
3. As said before, if I had dissapeared all of my friends would be talking to the parents cops and anyone who would listen...and maybe this has happened but definitely not the friends talking to media. Could it be that they are being told by the authorities to not talk to media? Or are they good enough friends to not even confront the parents and tell them what they think they know and let him dissapear as he wanted. I just don't think he made a wrong turn, he has taken the route numerous times. The Snapchat is suspicious and I wonder about the inquirey to the company releasing that info.
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UhOhNoAgTag
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I think it's strange that nothing has been said like "Jason, please come home". All I've seen is a rehash of what they think happened.
PrestigeWorldwideAg12
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I still think that something doesn't add up here
MsDoubleD81
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Agree.

Wonder what the "search results and data collected" over the weekend search was. I think some answers are in the phone/apps.
UhOhNoAgTag
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Just for grins, I looked up Hays County courthouse records. Had minor traffic incident in November, took driver safety course, dismissed Jan 6.
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John Cocktolstoy said:


"1. Friends of his talking about the Rapture and him acting weird"


Where did you see this info?
shiftyandquick
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someone posted here that they saw a post of someone on FB on the family page stating that they were a friend of his, and he had been acting weird related to weird things he was saying.
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Probably show up in an old van in Alaska.
 
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