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Possible Mountain Lion attack/death Lipan, Tx

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Yea......maybe an Axis or Fallow deer.
Gunny456
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This.
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normaleagle05 said:

O.G. said:

It wasn't a Tiger. I read this book a couple of years back:

https://www.amazon.com/Tiger-Vengeance-Survival-Vintage-Departures/dp/0307389049

True story of Russian para-military group that protects endangered Tigers in Sibera. Very good read btw.

The Tiger on human kills were described as if the victim had exploded. Blood everywhere and very little actual human remains. Only shreds of clothing and maybe a finger or some such. Definitely not enough to ID a body or have a proper funeral.

Probably a good book. But you do realize that no one is suggesting it may have been a tiger, right?
Someone above mentioned "exotic pet"....given that, according to Joe Rogan, there are more Tigers in Texas than all of the rest of the world....and this is 2020...and Carol Baskins is still walking around ......I mean......

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I drove by a "sanctuary" about 45 miles away from there recently with tigers and lions all over the place.

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There's a lot of crap involved. TPWD and USDA are of the mindset that there is no wildlife involvement at all. Keep in mind, it is in USDA Wildlife Services best interest for it to be an attack. My understanding is nothing at the site or body is consistent with a lion kill.
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Well, yeah, but this is the equivalent of the sheriff's "ranchers in the area have reported trail cam photos of mountain lions" just because it's true (that the ranchers have reported it), also there's one in Rowlett. That part is very important.

Hood County man killed by tiger from Rowlett. You heard it here first.
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ursusguy said:

There's a lot of crap involved. TPWD and USDA are of the mindset that there is no wildlife involvement at all. Keep in mind, it is in USDA Wildlife Services best interest for it to be an attack. My understanding is nothing at the site or body is consistent with a lion kill.

Interesting. I wouldn't have known that. How so?
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aggie appraiser said:

I drove by a "sanctuary" about 45 miles away from their recently with tigers and lions all over the place.


Oh my!
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normaleagle05 said:

ursusguy said:

There's a lot of crap involved. TPWD and USDA are of the mindset that there is no wildlife involvement at all. Keep in mind, it is in USDA Wildlife Services best interest for it to be an attack. My understanding is nothing at the site or body is consistent with a lion kill.

Interesting. I wouldn't have known that. How so?
Assuming proof of species prevalence?
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aggie appraiser said:

I drove by a "sanctuary" about 45 miles away from their recently with tigers and lions all over the place.




Can you imagine the aw **** feeling you would have just doing a little hiking at Mineral Wells State Park, you round the corner and see a tiger?
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Can't rule out Covid.
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Two things: they mostly operate as a fee for service agency AND fighting hard to maintain relevancy. Keep in mind, now days most people have never heard of them......and if they have are usually going after them. They don't get a lot of positive press (granted, part of the problem is they historically avoid the press like the plague).
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I did wonder who "WS" was from page one.
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Sorry about that, I've been bouncing around between many websites on this issue. Yeah--USDA Wildlife Services. Odd mix of a hybrid state-federal agency.
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Amy further update on this?
Maybe Next Year
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Probably pigs, like what happened in Anahuac a year ago
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ursusguy said:

Two things: they mostly operate as a fee for service agency AND fighting hard to maintain relevancy. Keep in mind, now days most people have never heard of them......and if they have are usually going after them. They don't get a lot of positive press (granted, part of the problem is they historically avoid the press like the plague).

A neighbor down the street works for USDA animal damage control. He'll show up occasionally with a fuel tank full of jet-a or a garage full of shotgun shells. Also has had to have surgery on his shoulder from shooting thousands of rounds from a helicopter.
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Any insider info update on this story?
ursusguy
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Checked yesterday and it has been really quiet.
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MAROON said:

Probably a pit bull
D!ck Head!!!
normaleagle05
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Surely the toxicology report is back by now? What's the word? Nothing in the news.
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Are there any updates on this? Seems strange for a story to generate so much buzz and then just disappear.

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hbc07 said:




That's what I liked about you.
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Serial killer
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2ndChanceAg96 said:

MAROON said:

Probably a pit bull
D!ck Head!!!
To be fair, you're a lot more likely to get killed by a pit bull than a mountain lion.
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ursusguy said:

There's a lot of crap involved. TPWD and USDA are of the mindset that there is no wildlife involvement at all. Keep in mind, it is in USDA Wildlife Services best interest for it to be an attack. My understanding is nothing at the site or body is consistent with a lion kill.
Probably a rabbit with Big Teeth.
Gil '91
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Hewey Calloway said:

2ndChanceAg96 said:

MAROON said:

Probably a pit bull
D!ck Head!!!
To be fair, you're a lot more likely to get killed by a pit bull than a mountain lion.


In Granbury area...100%...and I'm from there
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Update

"News Release 1-26-21
Final autopsy completed on Mountain Lion attack

On 1-25-21, the Hood County Sheriff's Office received the final autopsy report on Christopher Allen Whiteley, who died on 12-3-20 in the Lipan area.

The Tarrant County Medical Examiner's Office ruled the "Cause of Death" as "injuries of neck, due to animal attack" and the "Manner of Death" "accident."

The Hood County Sheriff's Office supports the TCME Office ruling since there were no signs of foul play in Whiteley's death.

There is still a disagreement with the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department whether Whiteley was killed by a mountain lion or not.

The case is being closed by the Hood County Sheriff's Office as an animal attack.

Public Information Officer
Lt. Johnny Rose
Hood County Sheriff's Office"
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Soooo, Bigfoot is still an option?
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Came here to see any reactions (especially ursus) after that press release?

What's the angle here with the SO not agreeing with TPWD? Who has an agenda or something to lose (or hide)? This seems strange all around now.

Edit: on reread, I guess the SO doesn't say it was a mountain lion, just an animal.
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AgEng06 said:

Came here to see any reactions (especially ursus) after that press release?

What's the angle here with the SO not agreeing with TPWD? Who has an agenda or something to lose (or hide)? This seems strange all around now.

Edit: on reread, I guess the SO doesn't say it was a mountain lion, just an animal.


But it does say that..very first sentence. Weird situation for sure. Curious for ursus input as well.
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Seems like a cover up of some sort. Doesn't make sense
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Here's my opinion on the disagreement.... Hood Co So... saw the scene and picked up a few signs and formed the case on mountain lion kill...But unlike gunshots, car accidents, overdoses etc..... how many mountain lion kills do you think they have investigated along with the Tarrant County ME. Now TPWD on the otherhand might be the more "in tune" department..
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montanagriz said:

Seems like a cover up of some sort. Doesn't make sense


Hood County has an underground hunt club where the rich pay to hunt the most dangerous game. Man.

The sheriff is getting huge kickbacks.
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