Nitro Trail Grapplers, BFG KM3s or Toyo Mudders

As you experienced, any all terrain is going to gum up in mud and perform poorly but better than OE street tires.

cz308 said:

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I don't want to create a new post for something so similar, but since there are a lot of good choices here, what about an offroad tire for a 4x4 Tundra? I don't give a crap about road noise, but I'd like to still get some decent mileage out of them. What's the recommendation?

Currently running BFG's KO2's and they were great when they were new, but they are slipping pretty bad in the pasture when it's muddy.

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Nitto ridge grapplers if you like a lot of road noise. Real aggressive looking.

I put a set of Cooper Discoverer ATP on my 1/2 ton silverado about 11k miles ago. No complaints so far. They are louder than the stock highway Michelins were but they're not too loud at all. Haven't had them in the mud or anything yet...my truck is 2wd so I avoid that stuff anyways. They're comfortable on the highway, good in the rain and seem to be wearing well.

Oh, and the main reason I bought them: they're inexpensive. I paid ~$180 a piece. The BFG and Nittos that I was looking at would have cost me another $400 for the set.

I had great luck with Notto Terra Grappler's on my previous truck. Current truck got a set this week following 40k miles on the factory rubber which was Hankook. The Hankooks were OK on hwy and OK off road but every little thorn went right through them.

Found the Michelin for $189 per, can't be unhappy about that. Thanks everyone for the input.

I drive a hell of a lot of off road miles in my 4Runner and have run BFG KO2s exclusively. They are quiet, have a multi-ply sidewall (where you pick up most of your punctures), and last forever. I am almost 70k into my set and they have not reached the first wear band. The number of miles you are able to squeeze out of any tire is directly proportional to the weight of your vehicle. I may get 75k in a light SUV while a guy driving an F350 may only get 50 running the same tire.

Can't believe no one has recommended Goodyear.







I run Michelin's.

New truck came with 35" Suretrak Wide Climber M/T 2. They are terrible. Loud. Rough. Soft. When I replace them, after probably 15k miles, I'm going with the Michelin LTX M/S.

The Bridgestone Duelers I am replacing lasted about 40k. Not impressed.

Nitto Terra Grapplers. Have gotten 70k + on the last 3 sets, and that's not running them bald either.

swampstander said:

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The answer as always is BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2.

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+1 on the Michelins. Also had good luck with Bfg rugged trail

How often you rotating those? I'm at 70k+ on a set of Revo 2s. Rotate them every 7-10k miles and they have been great. Just starting to look at replacing them.

The Catfish said:

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How often you rotating those? I'm at 70k+ on a set of Revo 2s. Rotate them every 7-10k miles and they have been great. Just starting to look at replacing them.

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Every 5k.

Just hit 80k with the BFG's that came on my Tundra. It will be hard for me not to order another set when the time comes.

Do you ever get your truck over 4K RPM?

I put the Michelin ATX on my Tundra and got 90,000 miles out of the first set. The current set has 60,000 miles on it still plenty tread. Keep inflated and really Rotate every 5,000 miles.

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Edit: the Michelin LTX Defender M/S is a great tire as well but more leaning highway, dirt roads, and not heavy off road (but does well there as well)

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A set of these are being put on my Tundra as I type this. Replacing a set of Hankook tires that I got 60k out of and probably could have gone another 5-10k, but I've got a couple of 2000 mile round trips coming up in the next few months so I decided to go ahead and make the change now.

They have been so smooth. Very nice riding tires.

TdoubleH said:

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I'm getting 60k+ Out of my Toyo AT2s. Rotate every oil change. I'll stick with them.

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Toyo AT2 is the correct answer

My Nitto Ridge Grapplers are BY FAR the best tires that I have had on my truck. Tread life has been excellent and they are extremely quiet. I will be getting another set when these wear out. They also balance great.

Sorry for the thread bump but this is the best recent tire discussion on the site. For those running the Michelin LTX AT2's how do they perform in the snow?

Live in DFW and go hunting in Montana occasionally and wanting to switch from my LTX defenders to an all terrain. Off road is limited to the deer lease where it gets muddy, and the very occasional snow covered logging road up north. 2013 F150 4wd

I have 52K on my Nitto Ridge Grapplers and probably have another 10K or more left on them. I love 'em. But they aren't cheap.

Personally can't do Goodyear or their products (Cooper). They are just too woke for me.

I have about 1k miles on a set of Ridge Grapplers and they are not loud at all. Haven't had them off road yet, but so far they've been good on highway and in the rain.

I got about 70k out of a set of Terra Grapplers and although noisy, they were by far the best performing truck tires, both on and off road, I've ever had. I hope the new Ridge Grapplers follow suit.

Prior to the Terra Grapplers, I had a set of BFG AT's and they were a huge disappointment. Decent off road, but wore really fast and were dangerously bad in wet conditions. I had to get rid of them at 40k.

Edit to add: I wanted to get Terra Grapplers again but tire salesman warned they were being phased out in favor of the Ridge Grapplers. Said if I damaged a tire a year or two from now, there's a chance I wouldn't be able to find a matching replacement. Of course he could have just been up-selling me, but he had Ridge Grapplers on his truck, which was enough to convince me.

I am not familiar enough with their performance in snow to make any sort of recommendation but the LTX M/S (now the MS2) was rated decent in snow. If I am not mistaken, the M was for mud and S for snow.

Regarding the other post below yours, I can't stand Goodyear. Wokeness aside, their truck/SUV tires have sucked for a really long time. You'll find someone that has good luck with them every now and again but they're the exception and not the rule. Stay the hell away from them.

I have been a huge proponent of Michelins for most of my life, their tread design and rubber compounds are as good as or better than others.

But I've had two LTX A/T2's recently go bad, and my father has as well. Bulge under the tread each time. They have some quality issues, at least with LT275/65R20's. That is unacceptable in a premium tire.

Don't disagree! Once they started offering them as a factory tire it seems like quality diminished. I can't speak personally to the their recent quality but your comments align with what I have heard through people that do know. Michelin does make a great tire but it seems like the A/T2s might not be one of them.