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what kind of tree is this?

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montanagriz
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What kind of tree is this? Located in Richmond Texas

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China berry
nonameag99
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Those are not china berry leaves and some of the berries look too big
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montanagriz
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Someone told me they were elder berries???
OnlyForNow
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Pretty sure it's not elderberry, looks a Helluva lot like
China berry to me.
Milwaukees Best Light
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That is not any china berry tree that I am familiar with. Don't know what it is, but it is not Chinese Tallow.
turfman80
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China berry. Melia azederach
Yeah, well, sometimes nothing is a real cool hand
Slim Isle
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Hackberry
montanagriz
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I will try and get pictures when the fruit ripens. Maybe cut a branch down with markers to display size. Really curious what it is. The berries are pretty good size. Like a nickel
nonameag99
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Is there a difference between chinese tallow and china berry? We always called them the same.

This is what the leaves look like for a chinese tallow around Houston



These are the berries

http://www.tsusinvasives.org/contentAsset/image/1eee828b-7513-490b-8b78-df6eca916277/fileAsset/filter/Resize/resize_h/450

http://www.tsusinvasives.org/home/database/triadica-sebifera
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OnlyForNow
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In diameter?

Not a Cletis then (hackberry) could be some kind of soapberry... how big is the trunk?
OnlyForNow
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Ya, very different.

China berry trees end up with yellow fruits, tallow trees end up with black/white seeds (no flesh).
OnlyForNow
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Ya I'm gonna go with a soapberry if not chinaberry.
Slim Isle
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It's a type of hackberry called sugarberry I think.

Huge difference in Chinese Tallow and chinaberry. Chinese tallow are nice in the fall but only chinaberry trees provide great ammo against siblings and cousins. All day fun right there.
rather be fishing
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looks like hackberry and mulberry leaves. Need more clear picture of the branch and leave with fruit.
Slim Isle
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Soapberry is more of a Bush - you can get good lather from soaking the leaves and that's what some people used to wash clothes etc
OnlyForNow
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Western soapberry gets over 20' y'all and has leaves similar to what I think the tree I'm he is asking about has. Hard to tell.

There is a hackberry in that picture, but hackberries don't produce nickel sized fruits, more like green pea sized.
jpb1999
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Roots86 said:

Hackberry


Leaves with holes eaten in them looks like an old hackberry.
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Layne Staley
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Dingleberry?
Apache
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Not a Chinese tallow or chinaberry.
Looks like soapberry fruit to me.
Spoony Love
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All these responses and nobody can identify it's a dickfur?
tlh3842
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Couple leaves in the pictures. Agreed your culprit is not sugar berry or hackberry.

The fruit makes me seriously think Chinaberry/Melia azedarch as well, or maybe a close relative
Badace52
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So the plant in the foreground of the top pic is a hackberry, but the tree with berries in the background is a chinaberry (leaves and fruit both indicative of that species.) Chinaberry leaves and fruit turn yellow in the fall.

Chinaberry tree:





Chinese tallow (sometimes called chinaberry here is Texas) is a very different tree with heart shaped leaves and no large berry clusters like chinaberry has. Chinese tallow black fruits crack open and reveal white seeds in the fall and their leaves turn all kinds of different shades of yellow, red, and orange.

Chinese tallow:


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