I purchased a .22 can towards the end of April last year.

I just received a text that the stamp came in so dang near a year wait....

I'm sitting on 356 and 324 days on Dubi's pre-covid splurges

Congrats on the stamp! Next one, build a can via Form 1. Your wait time will be 2-4 weeks. If you need to buy a drill press your coat will be about the same for one can. If you've already got one, it'll be cheaper.

285 for me on an obsidian 45, and 320 on a few others...... cmon damnit!

Wow got my Wolfman last month. Applied in September. Yall missed the boat on the new office approvals.

Im kinda toying with this idea of trying out one of the JK Armament rifle set ups. They sell the jig for you to use when drilling and i like that i can utilize a ASR mount so i can screw it on any of my guns with ASR brakes.

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Wow got my Wolfman last month. Applied in September. Yall missed the boat on the new office approvals.

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What kind of host do you have set up for your Wolfman? I'm thinking about building a clone or buying one or both. Also, how many days from filing/check cashing until stamp in hand?

Red Pear Realty said:

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aggie1819 said:

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Wow got my Wolfman last month. Applied in September. Yall missed the boat on the new office approvals.

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What kind of host do you have set up for your Wolfman? I'm thinking about building a clone or buying one or both. Also, how many days from filing/check cashing until stamp in hand?

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Mainly my CMMG Banshee. The radial delayed blowback make it a great host.

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Im kinda toying with this idea of trying out one of the JK Armament rifle set ups. They sell the jig for you to use when drilling and i like that i can utilize a ASR mount so i can screw it on any of my guns with ASR brakes.

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I would do one of these (titanium instead of aluminum, and also, in stock):

https://diversifiedmachine.us/product/premium-tuned-kit-9/
(everything is ready to go, you just need a stamp and to drill out the baffles)

https://superprecisionconcepts.com/products/kits
(You'll need to come up with a design for and cut your own spacers in addition to drilling the baffles)

For a jig, contact this user on this forum and he can hook you up with a jig for ~$50 and baffle clipping tools for $3

https://form1suppressor.boards.net/thread/3399/update-drilling-jigs

https://form1suppressor.boards.net/thread/3059/dhc-clipping-tool-available-op

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Red Pear Realty said:

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aggie1819 said:

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Wow got my Wolfman last month. Applied in September. Yall missed the boat on the new office approvals.

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What kind of host do you have set up for your Wolfman? I'm thinking about building a clone or buying one or both. Also, how many days from filing/check cashing until stamp in hand?

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Mainly my CMMG Banshee. The radial delayed blowback make it a great host.

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That's awesome. You have video/audio of it in action?

I haven't videoed yet.... got the Wolfman it back right before the quarantine. Hopefully I can shoot again this week. I'll video this time.

Would I rather have an MP5 or B&T APC9? Yeah, but the Banshee is half the price of the other 2

Professional made can >>>>>> homemade.

I'll take the year wait.

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Professional made can >>>>>> homemade.

I'll take the year wait.

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I disagree. I'd way rather have a titanium can that I made myself versus a steel (heavier) or aluminum (less durable) can. As an example, my Form 1 .22 can is lighter and more quiet than my Dead Air Mask (similar dimensions, the Mask is all steel so it's heavier), so the Form 1 can is a lot more fun to shoot.

Check cleared early August just got the call to pick up tomorrow. Its a quarantine miracle!

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As an example, my Form 1 .22 can is lighter and more quiet than my Dead Air Mask

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How have you metered your form 1 can to get decibel numbers to compare to the dead air?

Also, one can buy a titanium can (TBAC). That isn't a form 1 only thing:

https://thunderbeastarms.com/products/ultra-7

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As an example, my Form 1 .22 can is lighter and more quiet than my Dead Air Mask

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How have you metered your form 1 can to get decibel numbers to compare to the dead air?

Also, one can buy a titanium can (TBAC). That isn't a form 1 only thing:

https://thunderbeastarms.com/products/ultra-7

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oooh,,,,,an OB decibel pissing match......I'm gonna go make some popcorn!

Meh, I'm mostly just curious. From what I've seen on the web, it takes some fairly sophisticated (expensive) equipment to properly meter a supressor. Ex- you can't just download a noise level app on the iPhone.

So naturally, I'm interested in how Pear is metering his cans to come up with the statement that his Form 1 can outperforms a professional made form 4 can.

In the real world, there isn't that great a difference between like cans.

Get what you want and can afford. The host and ammo, as well as ambient temperature and humidity make significant differences.

As far as I care Huntertown Arms (rip) made the best rimfire canbecause that's what I own.

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As an example, my Form 1 .22 can is lighter and more quiet than my Dead Air Mask

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How have you metered your form 1 can to get decibel numbers to compare to the dead air?

Also, one can buy a titanium can (TBAC). That isn't a form 1 only thing:

https://thunderbeastarms.com/products/ultra-7

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That's cool. My form 1 can with roughly those specs cost half of that, doesn't use their proprietary muzzle brake that costs double what my GA brake cost, and I got my stamp in 15 days versus 365, but to each their own.

Cool. So no info on how you've metered your cans. That says all I need to know.

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Meh, I'm mostly just curious. From what I've seen on the web, it takes some fairly sophisticated (expensive) equipment to properly meter a supressor. Ex- you can't just download a noise level app on the iPhone.

So naturally, I'm interested in how Pear is metering his cans to come up with the statement that his Form 1 can outperforms a professional made form 4 can.

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I don't care what a decibel meter says, I care how it sounds to my ear. And there are more factors than just decibel reduction that factor in to the overall sound equation, despite what the marketing guys will tell you. FRP and tone are arguably more important. Your ear can't tell the difference in 32 dbl reduction and 34. But you can absolutely tell the difference in tone. And silencer companies aren't going to advertise that their cans have horrible FRP or POI shift. With a form 1 can, you have the ability to tailor your can to your use. And you can absolutely tell the difference in sound by not having a can at all for a year.

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I don't care what a decibel meter says.

FRP and tone are arguably more important.

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Lol

Ok RPR. Ok. Imma just let you have this thread back, Bc I'm simply not willing to debate a guy who says that decibel reduction from a DECIBLE REDUCTION DEVICE is of secondary importance.

You keep your shade tree suppressors with good tone.

Fan of cans, factory, homemade, or whatever.

Congrats OP.

BenderRodriguez said:

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Fan of cans, factory, homemade, or whatever.

Congrats OP.

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Aluminum, titanium, silicone or otherwise

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BenderRodriguez said:

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Fan of cans, factory, homemade, or whatever.

Congrats OP.

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Aluminum, titanium, silicone or otherwise

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Me too

I'm trying to understand your thinking. But your argument is basically "all restaurant food is better than home cooked meals" and that's just silly.

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BenderRodriguez said:

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Fan of cans, factory, homemade, or whatever.

Congrats OP.

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Aluminum, titanium, silicone or otherwise

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You make a good argument.

SiCo Spectre 22 stamp came in last month. It was a 21 month wait....I've got a Dead Air Sandman S in jail now. I'm not hopeful I'll see it anytime soon. ATF is ass, my dude.

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SiCo Spectre 22 stamp came in last month. It was a 21 month wait....I've got a Dead Air Sandman S in jail now. I'm not hopeful I'll see it anytime soon. ATF is ass, my dude.

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When did you buy it?. There is a window from September on where stamps went to a new ATF facility. Those are running 3-6 months.

You're such an insufferable *****. The other suppressor thread you bashed SiCo for saying their warranty doesn't include hand loads, until it was shown that TBAC has the same language. But, but, but...!

Well you know what fan boy? Here it is from the horses mouth: https://thunderbeastarms.com/forum/threads/sound-reduction-db-testing-and-publishing-results.20/

Hi megs. Thanks for keeping up with the thread. Enjoy:

https://texags.com/forums/34/topics/3104069




have a nice evening. and enjoy your shatty sico product with their stellar CS. Buyers remorse, I'm sensing? Or maybe just a stick up the arse. Or a uti in the vag. Maybe all.

Also, that post was from 2011. Lol. Things have changed since then. They now publish db data. And a lot of it.

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I don't care what a decibel meter says.

FRP and tone are arguably more important.

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Lol

Ok RPR. Ok. Imma just let you have this thread back, Bc I'm simply not willing to debate a guy who says that decibel reduction from a DECIBLE REDUCTION DEVICE is of secondary importance.

You keep your shade tree suppressors with good tone.

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Dude, do you wake up every morning, look in the mirror, and say to yourself "how can I be a dick to somebody today?"

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SiCo Spectre 22 stamp came in last month. It was a 21 month wait....I've got a Dead Air Sandman S in jail now. I'm not hopeful I'll see it anytime soon. ATF is ass, my dude.

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When did you buy it?. There is a window from September on where stamps went to a new ATF facility. Those are running 3-6 months.

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The dead air was this past Nov, so it hasn't been long. But, like I said, it took my other .22 can 21 months, so I have little faith this one will be in my possession any time soon.

Nah bro. Red Pear said, in his own words, that his Form 1 build-a-lego-can was quieter. I wanted to know how he could substantiate that. He couldn't. He's basing it off "tone". So he's FOS on quieter. But hey, keep up the PFG bashing. It makes you look smart.

My Check was cashed October 4th and I got my suppressor March 8th. Could be close.

My dads was cashed October 21st and he got his in February.