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Lightweight 6.5 Grendel SBR project

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CharlieBrown17 said:

If we could combine talents we'd have a pretty decent shooter that still couldn't figure out a shotgun


Im working on the shotgun stuff. But yeah, unless I'm using a chrono or establishing a zero, I spend very little time shooting from the bench.
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You got some shotgun practice this weekend!!!
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cledus6150 said:

You got some shotgun practice this weekend!!!


Between how I did there and how I did today, I'm not sure which I'm worse at.

I should stick to pistols.
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Hahaha, hell im Gunna sell that bergara I won and try and get a M2 probably. Gotta start working on those quad loads!
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Guess I'm late to the 6.5 Grendel party. Just found this thread on Google as I'm building a lightweight 18" with the Balios receiver set that I just got in today.

Waiting on my BSF carbon fiber 18" tube. Already have a smoke composites closed carbon fiber stock and handguard.

I'm getting anxious now.

Love the 6.5 Grendel.

I have a 12" PSA upper on an aero precision lower. A 20" inch Shilen on a Noveske N4 and a 20" Howa mini action in an mdt chassis.

Those rigs look great Bender. Hornady 123 ELDM runs great in all of mine but I shoot a ton of Wolf steel out of my 12".

Now if my cans ever get out of jail....
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Love mine. It's crazy accurate for such a short barrel.
VegasAg98
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That's a good looking rig.

I heard SanTan receivers are really good. Couldn't find those either.
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With ammo being what it is these days, nothing new to report on the shooting front.

I did go ahead and mount the RMR on a Reptilia ROF90 for passive NV shooting. Need to pick a white light and get it plus the IR stuff finalized and once my can is in, my nice light gun will be finished...and over 9lbs. But that 9lbs will be capable of everything from passive short range stuff under NV to easy hits at range, and everything in between, day or night.

I'm happy with how its turned out.

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So it turns out this gun wasn't done.

My next big purchase is thermal. Can't attach clip on thermal to a rail that doesnt have 1913 on top. Did some research and found an 11" Noveske NSR. About as light as the old ALG rail but with a full top pic rail.



Gun is still under 8 lbs unloaded as pictured. Thats with a LPVO, red dot, laser, light and suppressor. Its at 8 lbs 13 oz with a loaded 17 rd mag. Should still be under or close to 10 lbs even with clip on thermal.

Original intent was make the base gun lightweight so the accessories didnt turn it into a total pig. 10 lbs suppressed with white light, night vision and thermal options is pretty awesome.

Ive stubbornly finally been forced to learn there is no true single gun to do it all, but this one is probably as close as I'll ever get.
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How do you like the MDT chassis?
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This thread makes me sad
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Sorry yours didnt work out for you
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Range day today. Similar sized guns. Very different weights/cartridges/purposes.

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My 18" with a Primary Arms LPVO scope (which is not light) and a can came in at 8lbs 13oz, and that was with a 3/4 full Amend 2 mag. Was kinda shocked t wasnt heavier.
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What PA scope? I have an older 1-8 of theirs and was pretty surprised when I weighed it…darn close to the NX8, ~18 oz. SFP and glass isnt nearly as good but its a light booger. Its on my 16" piston upper these days.
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Crap, I lied - the Grendel has a Leupold 3.5-10x40, my shorty 5.56 has the PA scope. And that one is a 1-4x. It's heavy compared to others, at least going by the tried and true "pick it up and see" test.
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My 12.5 today.

2A Balios
Smoke composites
BSF carbon fiber barrel
Still my favorite gun in the collection.

6.5 Grendel just doesn't quit.

Note if Federal will just bring back the 90gr TNTs for my lightweight 16" coyote rig.
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Necro bump time. Kind of fun to look back at what I thought I wanted this gun to do and be and where it is now.

When I first built this gun I thought I would do run and gun stuff with it. Turns out I like 5.56 just fine for run and gun stuff.

I still liked the concept of a 12" ish 6.5 Grendel as the "one gun" that you could do it all with....hunt, self defense, recreational shooting, etc.

But I built it wrong for that. A "do it all" gun needs to be able to run nv/thermal accessories. So I had to swap the ALG rail out for a Noveske NSR with a full length top pic rail.

I went lightweight before I had much experience shooting suppressors. I've discovered I much, much prefer a full weight BCG for shooting suppressed. The lightweight stuff is just fine in a specifically tuned gun for it, and I still have a pencil barrel 14.5" AR with a lightweight buffer/bcg combo, but its much easier to tune a full weight bcg for suppressed/unsuppressed shooting.

I picked the NX8 because it was extremely light, but I really dont enjoy the huge reticle they used to make the gun have a "daylight bright" illumination at 1x, it makes precision shooting at 8x much harder than it should be when the reticle takes up half the scope view with big fat lines. I had also added a top mounted RMR to make it easier to shoot under night vision with.

I've also ditched the MFT Minimalist stock in favor of the Sopmod, which is still my favorite AR stock.

So before this week, the gun that was initially set up as a "lightweight" build that was already a 7 lbs, 3 oz gun. Still not a heavy gun by any means, but far from the lightweight build I had first envisioned.



This week I made a couple more changes. The 12" odinwerks barrel I've had in the gun does okay with some factory ammo, but it absolutely hates ELD-Ms. We are talking 5"+ groups at 100y levels of hate. It's never been a submoa tack driver for me with any ammo, but it was 2-3moa with a couple different loads at least. Even so, there were multiple loads I've tried with that barrel that did not group worth a dang.

So this week the Artist Formerly Known as Lightweight got a new barrel: 12.5" Ranier Ultramatch.



Midlength gas instead of carbine, and adds another 5oz to the build.

I also decided to swap over to an optic with a good Christmas Tree mildot reticle instead of the huge MOA circle on the NX8, so its now got a 2-12x Athlon on top.



Haven't tested the ELD-Ms yet but getting initial groups/zeroing done with 123gr Hornady bulk stuff and its already a noticeably better performer than the old odinwerks barrel.

It's also a much smoother shooter with midlength gas and a full weight bcg than the old build was.

I'm now barely under 8lbs empty....7 lbs 14 oz. Its no longer a light weight build, but I'm much happier with its current configuration than I was with the old set up. I think its still a great contender for the "if you could only have one gun" argument, and it is a fun trip down memory lane to read this thread and what I first tried versus what I ended up with.
 
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