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SunrayAg said:

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SanAntoneAg said:

I was taught that a humane, clean kill was part of being an ethical hunter.

When did the contrary become something "hunters" brag about publicly?


Clearly Not everyone was raised the same. Probably like you, I won't shoot any animal unless I have a clean and ethical shot. Remember the "shoot it in the nuts" guy? Well, there are a lot more of that guy than I'd like to acknowledge exist.
Spare me the holier than thou routine.

Clearly not everyone has seen their pastures and fences destroyed by feral hogs.

Invasive destructive pests need to be exterminated. Feral hogs in the pasture are no different than rats in the kitchen.
Wasn't BrazosDog the origin of "shoot 'em in the nuts"? I think he's being facetious now...

If not, my apologies, BrazosDog.
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Pretty sure that was 80s guy.

AgEng06
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Ahhh, you're right.
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TxFig said:

SanAntoneAg said:

I was taught that a humane, clean kill was part of being an ethical hunter.

When did the contrary become something "hunters" brag about publicly?

It's not hunting - it's pest control.


Not to mention taking an arbitrary standard of what is ethical and then deciding that someone else is wrong because they have a different standard is nothing more than mental masturbation.
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killbutchereat said:

I turned this big boy:


into this:


I'd say feral hogs are pretty tasty.


Y'all listen to this dude. He knows of what he speaks.

I got to do this hog butchering & cooking class a couple years ago taught by Jesse Griffiths, a James Beard Award winning chef in Austin. He's an evangelist for cooking wild game. Especially wild hogs. He really changed my outlook on cooking pigs. Seriously worth your time if you enjoy hunting and cooking/eating.

https://www.newschooloftraditionalcookery.com/home

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We just went to Dai Due on Saturday night. Jesse knows his meat!
killbutchereat
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Makes for some pretty solid English-style back bacon too if you get a good fat one.



There is really no reason to toss out pigs unless they're just tiny, IMO
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Any tips to pull that off?
killbutchereat
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Long post incoming...

I've done a decent amount of dry curing before, but this was the first time I tried pancetta so I took lots of pictures. Here's a rough step by step.

First few steps are pretty simple

1. Kill a big pig - the bigger the better on this project.


2. Don't field dress it. Get it hung and skinned



3. Carefully cut out full pork belly. If you go too deep you'll end up cutting something in the digestive track and that's not fun.



4. Wash it off, remove all hairs, trim some the membranes off if they're bad. Trim it to make it into a rectangle shape. Flaps don't roll up well.



From here, we need to get into some curing science. You need the following ratios for any dry curing:
0.25% per weight pink salt (#2 curing salt - something like this: https://www.alliedkenco.com/cure-2-16oz-1-1.aspx)
3% by weight kosher salt.

So weigh your belly and you can calculate how much salt and curing salt you need.

My seasoning mix:
4 T Minced garlic
2 t Pink Salt
cup Kosher Salt
2 T Brown Sugar
2 T Black Pepper
4 Bay Leaves, crushed
1 t Nutmeg
1 t Thyme

5. Mix up your spice mix, rub all over the belly, then put into a big ziploc bag. Store in fridge for about a week. Flip it/massage it once a day. After the week check and see if it feels firm everywhere, if not let it sit for another day or two.



6. After it cures in the fridge for a week or so, take it out and wash it off. Pat dry. Sprinkle some more black pepper on it then roll it up. This can't be rolled too tight, you don't want any air pockets inside.





7. Tie it up, get it ready to hang



8. Hang for about 2 weeks. It will probably grow a little mold, but you can just wipe it off with a clean rag and vinegar. White mold is fine/good. Anything green, black or fuzzy you should toss the whole project. You can wipe it off every couple days if it's growing any. I hung it in my house in Houston with this little hanging rack frame I made to put in my cooler.


9. After hanging for 2 weeks


10. Wash off any mold. I use diluted vinegar to clean my countertops, and it works good to get mold off cured meats too.



11. Remove string, slice, eat




HTownAg98
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Shouldn't you be using the #2 pink salt on something that's going to cure that long?
killbutchereat
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That's correct and is what I use. I'll edit the post to be more specific. https://www.alliedkenco.com/cure-2-16oz-1-1.aspx
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Well done! Now that deer season is over, I'd like to concentrate on pigs and get more into curing. I do a lot of homemade bacon out of store bought pork bellies and butts. I'd like to try more of the wild variety.

Another note on Jesse Griffiths, he will soon be coming out with a wild game cookbook dedicated to only wild pigs, I believe it's called Hog Book.
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Thanks that looks awesome. My butchering skills need work to pull that off.
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Folks touting the old adage of only eat shoats under X lbs, boars are nasty etc should listen to the MeatEater podcast with Jesse Griffiths from Dai Due.
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I didn't bother reading every post, but if any of y'all remember Kyle Parker who ran MargaritaMan and was recently giving away all the tahoe seats, I think he went by KRP or something close, he had gotten a piglet from someone on here, and he had just got his BGE and we were out at the deer lease waiting on this pig to be done. It was the best I have ever had! I have killed at 500 pigs in my lifetime, eaten 100's, but this piglet was the best of any pig I have had. If he ever gets on here again he could tell you what he did. I just know a piglet with a bunch of brown sugar on the outside and a handfull of charcoal made the tastiest pork I have ever had.
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highvelocity said:

50-100 pound females are the sweet spot if you want a BBQ

This. Up to around 100 lb sows taste almost like lean grocery store pork to me. Haven't tried eating a big boar, mostly because they stink to high hell just being around them.
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I'm a huge fan of dry cured meats in general, but my biggest hangup on feral hogs is how many of them carry brucellosis. I assume dry curing wouldn't kill any bacteria already present; it just inhibits growth of more. But maybe I'm wrong. Anybody have any experience on that topic?
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I've never put any thought into that. All the sausage I make is 60% feral hog 40% venison and I use cure so I can cold smoke it. At this point I've probably made 2000lbs over the last 10+ years and served it to a ton of people without issue.

Maybe it will get me sometime, but a dozen .22 rounds is much cheaper than 200lbs of store bought pork
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Stasco said:

I'm a huge fan of dry cured meats in general, but my biggest hangup on feral hogs is how many of them carry brucellosis. I assume dry curing wouldn't kill any bacteria already present; it just inhibits growth of more. But maybe I'm wrong. Anybody have any experience on that topic?
This is always my hang up with curing feral hog.

Brucellosis is the one that is always on my mind.

As I understand it a healthy individual may carry it but not necessarily have any strong symptoms. The effects it can have on pregnant women, however, can be quite serious.

I love hog meat, and it used to be a staple in our household, but I always cook it thoroughly (and of course clean it thoroughly while wearing gloves).

I will make some smoked sausage out of it with #1 pink salt, but I smoke it to about 150 and hold it there for a bit before I pull it off the pit.
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Even with big rank boar, cut the back strap out, slice them into bite size chunks and marinade that in Allegro sauce. Wrap the bite size chunks in a single bacon slice, and gril. I promise you will NOT know if it came from an old boar or not.

I agree with everything else here though, shoot'em and let'em lay or whatever. The rules that apply to deer etc do not apply to hogs. Kill'em all.
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I'm definitely on board with the shoot em on sight camp. I've tossed plenty of them or didn't track them into the brush very far. But if you've got a little time to spare, I'd encourage you to cut out some meat. Lot's of bad info about how they're inedible or big boars taste bad or whatever from people who have never actually given it a shot.
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SAWgunner said:

I agree with everything else here though, shoot'em and let'em lay or whatever. The rules that apply to deer etc do not apply to hogs. Kill'em all.

Kill every single one you see. But it should be an ethical kill just like you would grant a game animal imo.
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killbutchereat said:

I've never put any thought into that. All the sausage I make is 60% feral hog 40% venison and I use cure so I can cold smoke it. At this point I've probably made 2000lbs over the last 10+ years and served it to a ton of people without issue.

Maybe it will get me sometime, but a dozen .22 rounds is much cheaper than 200lbs of store bought pork

Cooking the meat kills the brucellosis bacteria. Dry curing it will not, which is why I'd be very leery of dry curing wild pig. It's typically not found in the muscle tissues, but it's not worth the risk for me.
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My parasitology is a little past it's prime, but I think you should also be a little bit concerned with trichinosis, considering your methods.

Freezing won't help you with either of these concerns.

"Undulant Fever" (from humans contracting Brucellosis or "bangs") can be debilitating.

Still, your chances are low so spin the wheel. Does look tasty though.
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SAWgunner said:

Even with big rank boar, cut the back strap out, slice them into bite size chunks and marinade that in Allegro sauce. Wrap the bite size chunks in a single bacon slice, and gril. I promise you will NOT know if it came from an old boar or not.

I agree with everything else here though, shoot'em and let'em lay or whatever. The rules that apply to deer etc do not apply to hogs. Kill'em all.
When the meat stinks, I'm not going to bother taking even the backstraps, nor potentially waste the Allegro sauce, and not risk tainting some delicious bacon. And I tried, real hard, to process a very stinky boar. No cross-contamination, meat was rinsed....but simply gave off foul odors, when a test cook was done.

Way too many wild hogs, to bother processing the super smelly ones....

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killbutchereat said:


Maybe it will get me sometime, but a dozen .22 rounds is much cheaper than 200lbs of store bought pork


I need to use this kinda math with my fishing. Hey wifey, our freezer full of fish only costs me about 50 cents a pound if you only count the cost of the lures that caught fish
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LEJ said:

My parasitology is a little past it's prime, but I think you should also be a little bit concerned with trichinosis, considering your methods.

Freezing won't help you with either of these concerns.

"Undulant Fever" (from humans contracting Brucellosis or "bangs") can be debilitating.

Still, your chances are low so spin the wheel. Does look tasty though.
If I recall correctly, trichinosis is killed by freezing. Also, I thought that trich was killed a lower temp (I seem to recall 130 or 135). Was never a huge concern for me, cause everything I eat that could have trich could also have brucellosis, so it got cooked to the higher temps anyway (~150).

If I ever get a chance for a bear hunt i'll make sure and brush up on that though.
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I seem to recall Ursus posting something about brucellosis in wild hogs in Louisiana causing some issues.

Can you post that info again? Or add some insight regarding the safety of dry curing hog?
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