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Type of tree to plant / retaining wall

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harge57
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I would like to plant some shade trees on the west side of my house. It is a smaller area, and I am concerned that a tree could compromise my retaining wall.

I was hoping to plant something like 2 red oaks that could grow up above my roof line, which is 10-11 ft tall. I was thinking I may need to stick with something like a crepe myrtle due to the limited area and the retaining wall, but I really hate those trees.

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Um, yeah... DO NOT plant an oak tree there unless you hate your eave and retaining wall, because they will be trashed. Your neighbor will also hate you for all the leaves in his driveway, may trim it back to property line, etc.

Maybe something like a columnar yaupon or cypress if you don't like crepe myrtle. Also could look at something like a vitex/chaste tree or similar. Don't know your climate zone, citrus could be another option.

ETA: also need to know if that is an easement or not. They could wipe out what you plant there and tell you to get bent.
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Plus watch what you plant since you will likely be liable for any damages to the wall and the neighbors house.

Most of your good hardwoods will struggle in that narrow area... if the goal is screening the neighbor, such a good solid masonry type fence.
harge57
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Located in Dallas.

Concern isn't really the neighbor as our windows are above his roof line.

Really just trying to block the sun as that is in direct sunlight from 10am till sunset.
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I'm my opinion it is to narrow there to plant anything that will get big enough to shade roof. Now you can plant some smaller shrubby bushes to block sun on the brick. You do not want anything with deep roots next to the retaining wall...
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Yeah, I wouldn't plant anything there, unless it was like a vine on a trellis. Wayyyyy to small.
I know a lot about a little, and a little about a lot.
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Shoefly!
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If it's your daughters windows catclaw rose bushes.
AgResearch
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Horrible idea to plant a tree of any type there. Trash the wall and your foundation for sure.
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Put in like 6-8 italian cypress trees.
Cuterebra
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A half dozen silverleaf maples would do nicely in that spot.
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Italian cypress trees would look great there.
Get Off My Lawn
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That looks like enough room for about one row of bamboo.
Old RV Ag
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Get Off My Lawn said:

That looks like enough room for about one row of bamboo.
You really want OP to have issues with his neighbor!
Funky Winkerbean
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You will regret planting trees in that space. Is shading to roof top priority or are you also looking to screen off your neighbor?
evestor1
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I'd put up a fence. And if I was still not happy...I'd grow a hedge on top of the fence.
rather be fishing
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Planting bamboo should be punishable by something between losing a finger and death.

If it were me, if look at putting in a fence/trellis structure and some kind of scaling vegetation. You could do some mustang grape if you wanted to stay native, but it'll make a mess in the fall.
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Wax myrtle could be a good choice. Gets up to about 10 to 15 feet. Evergreen -- if you trim it regularly it makes a nice hedge. Very adaptable and drought resistant after it gets established.
SA-AG72
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Put sun screens and/or solar shades on your windows.
Get Off My Lawn
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Old RV Ag said:

Get Off My Lawn said:

That looks like enough room for about one row of bamboo.
You really want OP to have issues with his neighbor!
I didn't call it as a "good" idea. Just that it satisfied OP's premise.
Oogway
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OP, the reality of the situation based on your parameters is:

Move.


Just kidding. Seriously, as the owner of a mature red oak and the former owner of a crepe myrtle (full sized), neither of those species are ideal for that spot based on your requirements and the photo.

Red oaks are wonderful trees and we love ours. It does provide great shade but allows the grass to grow underneath. However, there are some very good sized roots, a lot of leaves and these things called acorns that would create several problems with your location. Some would be a nuisance, but the roots and the retaining wall would be $$ even if you put in a root barrier. If you put in a root barrier to save the retaining wall, then those roots might spread to your foundation, also $$. Which brings me to the crepe myrtle.

A full sized crepe myrtle has larger roots than you might think. When we removed ours it was in a bed in front of the house and per the norm, the builder had placed it about two feet from the foundation. That is not far enough! Those roots were going under the foundation $$, etc and I was amazed at just how large they were and what they were able to do. The leaf litter and blooms from a crepe myrtle are not quite as abundant as an oak, but it will get in your gutters if not sealed.

I have little knowledge of the trees such as the cypress mentioned, but perhaps you can locate someone who has a mature one and ask a few questions about it. Look for examples around your city to see if it may work. A perennial vine may work, but again, for that you would need a structure or support that is stable enough to support the vine but not wreck the wall. That wall looks like an important feature for both the houses with respect to drainage, etc and that would be where the headaches would come in if it were to be compromised.

If energy efficiency, privacy and shade are what you are looking for, perhaps see if someone from the utility department can visit and do an audit for you because they may have some suggestions as well.

Just my two cents.

Best of luck to you!
Burdizzo
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If you're wanting a vegetative shade, look at a trellis and a vining plant. I would NOT plant any trees there.

(Posted before I read rather be fishing's post)
harge57
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Thanks everyone, lots of great info. Looks like I'll just leave it alone for now. May use the space for a garden.
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Primrose jasmine
HTownAg98
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I'll second the trellis/climbing vegetation idea. I wouldn't do a garden, because when nothing is growing there and it rains, you may flood your neighbor with mud.
Hhilton82
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BorderTx said:

Primrose jasmine


Freeze in DFW.
Hhilton82
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Dwarf was mrytle, Nellie r Stevens holly,
Large shrubs, no trees.
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