CanyonAg77 said:

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Sorry for the derail, OP.

But an Internet cat fight over pasta sauce has got to be the winner of today's First World Problem Award.

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Oh it's been entertaining AF for me lately.

phideaux_2003 said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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My attitude is reaction to his severe criticism of the way I make my pasta gravy.

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Is this real life?

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Not joking. Find the thread on the food board. He hammered me because he doesn't like spicy pasta sauce. Called me an amateur and said my opinion was trash and I should be be disregarded. It was in a thread about "how you make your sauce."

I mean wtf? We've had a number of disagreements since. He continues to berate people for their personal choices as a matter of preference and I keep calling him out. It's gotten to be fun actually. He never fails to screw up.

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WTF was my reaction as well...

I think this thread has been great. It has served as a bit of inspiration for me to get my fatass losing some weight. I'll take myself over to the health and fitness area but I'm going to report back in 6 months on my results. 9/26/2019 weight is 276. Goal weight is 175 lbs.

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GAC06 said:

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It's such a touchy subject that you follow him around to derail threads where he wasn't even talking to you? Yikes.

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Not defending either but they do it to each other on the Food board

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And I try to contain it to the food board as 99% of our disagreements have been about cooking. But this was egregious.

Yet your genuine response came after your post attacking him, homie.

GAC06 said:

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Yet your genuine response came after your post attacking him, homie.

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Noted. I'll run all of my responses by you in the future for sequencing approval.

Alta said:

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I think this thread has been great. It has served as a bit of inspiration for me to get my fatass losing some weight. I'll take myself over to the health and fitness area but I'm going to report back in 6 months on my results. 9/26/2019 weight is 276. Goal weight is 175 lbs.

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FIDO - when someone expresses interest in weightloss and a commitment to do such, as quoted, THIS is the appropriate time to encourage and give advice...

I'm out.

Some people just cannot lose weight efficiently due to arthritis, spinal or joint problems which preclude the kind of workouts they might wish to do. I, too, have gone to a plant-based diet periodically to effectively lose weight and keep it off, and believe it is a far healthier option. I also find myself losing my appetite for sugary things and fruit satisfies that sweet craving. Even the occasional doughnut tastes just too sweet. Even so, people who do have girth should consider OWB carry for comfort along with a flatter carry weapon (Shield, LC9s etc.). The single stacks are probably going to have enough ammunition for you to confront an aggressor effectively, reload and retreat. A concealed carrier's job is to meet and deter the threat. The job of law enforcement is to take the aggressor (or the body) into custody. Not going to get into the weight loss debate other than to affirm that if you can do it, it is very beneficial for your concealed carry comfort.

I will have to give this a try. Damn it.

I didn't see it mentioned but why not pocket carry? I primarily carry a 43X IWB or OWB but I also have an LCR that I sometimes carry. The LCR is a little fatter than the 43X but still not uncomfortable IWB since dropping some weight. Is also easily carried in a pocket with a Desantis holster.

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Alta said:

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I think this thread has been great. It has served as a bit of inspiration for me to get my fatass losing some weight.

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Me too. Interesting discussion on carry options with a side of weight loss discussion, and a dessert of foodie cat fight. The plant based diet is interesting. I just watched the Joe Rogan interview with Pat McNamara. McNamara eats collard greens, spinach, green peppers and chicken as his go to main meal. I may try something like that (with some substitutions). I am not sure I could swear off meat entirely.

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Don't be afraid to venture out and change eating habits for life. It will likely involve some experimentation to find out what best suits you, but the information is out there now by the boatload. I've had good success with plant based (mostly) eating but my wife seems to have hit a wall with it. A lot of folks have had success with the carnivore diet and she's trying that now! A few points I've gathered from observing a mother-in-law go plant-based after a major heart attack, coaching my dad in diet through colon cancer, and my own success in weight loss:

1) Exercise is necessary but I don't believe it should be your primary means of weight loss. Movement is more necessary than anything to keep your lymphatic system working optimally. Over the long haul, no amount of exercise will overcome a bad diet.

2) Everything that the government has taught us about diet and nutrition is garbage. The government lies to us about everything else, why would diet and nutrition be any different? Forget everything you ever learned about food groups, food pyramids, etc, and any commercial marketing too.

3) Doctors and the medical complex are not setup well at treating chronic conditions .They don't teach nutrition because it's not settled science and people react differently to certain diets. Thus they're more likely to prescribe you something instead of suggesting a change in diet to fix the underlying problem. (thoughts from a brother-in-law who's in medical school)

4) Fasting is something that the human race has done throughout most of its history, probably due to food scarcity more than anything. We live in such a time of abundance that we've largely forgotten it and are conditioned to eat 3 meals a day even when we don't need to. Fasting has a lot of benefits, such as auto****y and weight loss/maintenance, which can be had if you can break out of that conditioning.

5) Whether it's plant-based or the carnivore diet or keto or some other new hotness, a common theme is ditching processed foods. If you try nothing else, cutting out processed foods will have a big impact on your health if you eat a lot of it currently.


Again, YMMV and may require some experimentation to settle on an ideal diet for you.

Edit: Lol, filter cuts out autoph-a-gy

Take a break for a bit and then hit a different routine. I've found that after awhile my body adjusts and kind of figures out what I'm going to do. I hit diminishing returns with workouts because my body has adjusted to them and is now going the minimum necessary to facilitate them. I get less out of the same workout now that I was doing a month or 2 before. If I take a week off and then start something different, it's a shock and my body starts burning calories again because it doesn't know what kind of activity to expect.

BenderRodriguez said:

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IDAGG said:

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I just watched the Joe Rogan interview with Pat McNamara.

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Speaking of Pat, phideaux asked if I'd ever advise a student to lose weight.

Pat is miles ahead of me as an instructor. Last year when I took his class, he encouraged me to drop some pounds. We had just shot a timed drill. I put up a faster time than anyone else...except for Pat. The exact quote was something like "good shooting. How much faster do you think you could go if you were 20 lbs lighter?".

I wasn't offended or triggered. He's right, I would be faster if I was lighter. Concealed carry is easier if you lose some weight....and being healthier is more likely to save your life than the gun you're carrying anyway.

I don't think there's anything wrong with stating obvious facts, especially if done the way Pat did with me.

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You shouldn't be.

About ten years ago I was working and traveling for work constantly. We had just had another baby, the economy was complete sh**, money was tight, and staying in shape/being healthy was just out in far right field. Went in to the doctor for something and this doc I had never met was asking me questions about my life and lifestyle and he I mentioned we just had another son and he says "oh that's great, congrats. Want to see him graduate from HS? Then get your sh** together. You're a mess. I don't care about excuses, just do it."

So I did. No offense taken. The end.

ABATTBQ11 said:

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Take a break for a bit and then hit a different routine. I've found that after awhile my body adjusts and kind of figures out what I'm going to do. I hit diminishing returns with workouts because my body has adjusted to them and is now going the minimum necessary to facilitate them. I get less out of the same workout now that I was doing a month or 2 before. If I take a week off and then start something different, it's a shock and my body starts burning calories again because it doesn't know what kind of activity to expect.

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Thanks for this tip. I am going to try this soon. I've changed my diet enough to hold steady at where I am at. I can verify that since I have been stuck here for about 6-8 weeks now. I will switch it up and see if that helps. I need some core work, for certain, as that would help me with almost every fun activity I participate in.

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4) Fasting is something that the human race has done throughout most of its history, probably due to food scarcity more than anything. We live in such a time of abundance that we've largely forgotten it and are conditioned to eat 3 meals a day even when we don't need to.

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And related to that is I am convinced that human evolution has conditioned us to eat to excess when the food is available. It's a survival strategy. Think about it. Until a couple of hundred years ago, the many millennia of human existence has been a struggle to get thorough time of food scarcity, such as winter in the temperate and colder climate zones. Winter used to kill humans all the time, if not from cold, then from starvation or poor diet due to eating whatever meager food would still be available and not spoiled. So we are fighting evolution. Not an excuse for my fat ass, just an explanation of why it is so hard to stay on a diet. Your body is telling you "EAT".

schmellba99 said:

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GAC06 said:

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It's such a touchy subject that you follow him around to derail threads where he wasn't even talking to you? Yikes.

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To be fair, FIDO was the one that derailed the thread by not actually addressing the question of the OP and going into the "lose weight and quit being a fatty, here is what I do and why I"m better" routine.

Both need to chill the F out in all reality.

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Hey man I know you're right. I hope you know I know you're right. I just can't stand a bully man. It's a visceral reaction and I just can't let it go sometimes.

When's the next gun show? You and Randy and I need to grab lunch.

Urban Ag said:

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Good lord this thread is a perfect example of why I stopped posting here, much less even reading, years ago. Every thread turned in to a deek measuring contest or another lesson in No True Scotsman.

Now y'all bicker about pasta sauce and being sensitive of weight gain? lol

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Username checks out.