Get that liberal crap out of here

I enjoyed unbranded but it was borderline too much liberal crap

You know what will keep the west wild, keep the illegals out

Guess who bankrolled this? Warren Buffet...

I heard an interview with Ben Masters last week on local NPR. They spent a lot of time talking about how they want the border to be like it used to be where there was a mix of cultures that made it unique and all that other nostalgic feel good stuff. I miss all that too. The unfortunate fact is that lifestyle along the border is probably gone for good thanks to all the crime that pervades the region. That barely gets discussed.

Ben Masters seems like a nice guy, and I share his love of the way things used to be. But we have a real problem along the border that few people seem to have the will to fix.

https://www.tpr.org/post/fronteras-its-so-much-more-line-map-texas-filmmakers-southern-border-journey

If you dont want the wall then make a documentary about the dangers of illegal immigration and the rise of crime in Mexico so that the problem might be addressed by policy rather than construction projects.

I dont want the wall and I wish the border was the way it used to be but Mexico is slipping into the seventh circle of hell and something has to be done to protect our home

This is the OB, where you beat your chest with manufactured outrage at anything that doesn't 100% agree with your point of view. Or else your a GD flaming commie that drinks filtered piss on your kale chip cereal.

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If you dont want the wall then make a documentary about the dangers of illegal immigration and the rise of crime in Mexico so that the problem might be addressed by policy rather than construction projects.

I dont want the wall and I wish the border was the way it used to be but Mexico is slipping into the seventh circle of hell and something has to be done to protect our home

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Sure. My point is if you want the wall just be honest and say you are afraid of illegal aliens and not that you are somehow keeping the border wild because that is the opposite of the truth.

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I'm not afraid of them. I'm afraid that this country will cease to exist as we know it (including that beautiful landscape) with an invasion of migrants that bring nothing but open hands and wanting eyes.

I'm willing to sacrifice a piece of landscape for the ability to say that I live in a sovereign nation that defends its borders.

To be clear, I support the wall for many reasons listed above. I have not seen the film yet but when I do I am 100% sure that whatever slant Masters puts on it will not influence my opinion. I will instead try to appreciate the experiences of the 5 and the rugged scenery of our great state. I don't really care who bankrolled it.

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If you dont want the wall then make a documentary about the dangers of illegal immigration and the rise of crime in Mexico so that the problem might be addressed by policy rather than construction projects.

I dont want the wall and I wish the border was the way it used to be but Mexico is slipping into the seventh circle of hell and something has to be done to protect our home

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Sure. My point is if you want the wall just be honest and say you are afraid of illegal aliens and not that you are somehow keeping the border wild because that is the opposite of the truth.

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I'm not afraid of them. I'm afraid that this country will cease to exist as we know it (including that beautiful landscape) with an invasion of migrants that bring nothing but open hands and wanting eyes.

I'm willing to sacrifice a piece of landscape for the ability to say that I live in a sovereign nation that defends its borders.

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Got it. So what you are saying is that you are afraid, and that a wall will prevent this country from ceasing to exist.

What I think is that we are playing a trick on ourselves and spending billions of tax dollars and using eminent domain to take land from private citizens to build a wall that will essentially prevent US citizens from accessing a major water way that is our right as US citizens to access. Congratulations we have saved our union (Just not the part that goes right up to the Rio Grande)

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I think we just found Ben Master's Mom ...

And thanks for confirming that his "documentary" is loaded with one-sided politics.

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If you dont want the wall then make a documentary about the dangers of illegal immigration and the rise of crime in Mexico so that the problem might be addressed by policy rather than construction projects.

I dont want the wall and I wish the border was the way it used to be but Mexico is slipping into the seventh circle of hell and something has to be done to protect our home

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Sure. My point is if you want the wall just be honest and say you are afraid of illegal aliens and not that you are somehow keeping the border wild because that is the opposite of the truth.

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I'm not afraid of them. I'm afraid that this country will cease to exist as we know it (including that beautiful landscape) with an invasion of migrants that bring nothing but open hands and wanting eyes.

I'm willing to sacrifice a piece of landscape for the ability to say that I live in a sovereign nation that defends its borders.

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Got it. So what you are saying is that you are afraid, and that a wall will prevent this country from ceasing to exist.

What I think is that we are playing a trick on ourselves and spending billions of tax dollars and using eminent domain to take land from private citizens to build a wall that will essentially prevent US citizens from accessing a major water way that is our right as US citizens to access. Congratulations we have saved our union (Just not the part that goes right up to the Rio Grande)

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I think we just found Ben Master's Mom ...

And thanks for confirming that his "documentary" is loaded with one-sided politics.

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It's interesting that your username is Texas 1836. That was the last year that Mexico held territory north of the Rio Grande. You know until your little pet project is complete.

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Remember to kiss Ben on the cheek when you tuck him in ...

Until you've paid for broken doors and windows, to replace refrigerators and freezers they leave open to cool off when 8' away is a thermostat, mend fences they drive through trying to escape from BP or have to pick up trash, milk jugs, luggage and clothes they leave behind you really don't have a right to question others. My wife and I specifically bought our STX ranch where we did to escape the above that was a constant at our place in Carrizo. If your backyard has no fence and you don't mind people walking through and treating it as your own, then you're a better man than me.

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Until you've paid for broken doors and windows, to replace refrigerators and freezers they leave open to cool off when 8' away is a thermostat, mend fences they drive through trying to escape from BP or have to pick up trash, milk jugs, luggage and clothes they leave behind you really don't have a right to question others. My wife and I specifically bought our STX ranch where we did to escape the above that was a constant at our place in Carrizo. If your backyard has no fence and you don't mind people walking through and treating it as your own, then you're a better man than me.

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You may want to read my posts again. I was stating my opinion. Which many disagree with on here and that is fine. Normally I steer clear of the politics board because I consider it a sewer. What got my goat was someone coming on the outdoors board which I LOVE and claiming that building that dumb wall would somehow make the west more wild. That is false.

For what it's worth I grew up on the border (Much closer than Carrizo) where I believe some of that movie is filmed. I do not doubt that you may have had a bad experience but you really don't know anything about mine.

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We have our place for sale right now that we've had almost 50 years. We're 6 or 7 miles from the river. With Don Houser if you think I'm making it up. For the same reasons AnSC said. It's just not safe to go down there anymore. Our place is remote, so whatever happens, you are on your own.
We gave up trying to keep it locked. Just left stuff that wouldn't hurt too bad when it was gone or torn up when you got back. And like the thermostat, the jackasses would kick in the door before trying the knob, which was left unlocked.

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Until you've paid for broken doors and windows, to replace refrigerators and freezers they leave open to cool off when 8' away is a thermostat, mend fences they drive through trying to escape from BP or have to pick up trash, milk jugs, luggage and clothes they leave behind you really don't have a right to question others. My wife and I specifically bought our STX ranch where we did to escape the above that was a constant at our place in Carrizo. If your backyard has no fence and you don't mind people walking through and treating it as your own, then you're a better man than me.

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You may want to read my posts again. I was stating my opinion. Which many disagree with on here and that is fine. Normally I steer clear of the politics board because I consider it a sewer. What got my goat was someone coming on the outdoors board which I LOVE and claiming that building that dumb wall would somehow make the west more wild. That is false.

For what it's worth I grew up on the border (Much closer than Carrizo) where I believe some of that movie is filmed. I do not doubt that you may have had a bad experience but you really don't know anything about mine.

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We have our place for sale right now that we've had almost 50 years. We're 6 or 7 miles from the river. With Don Houser if you think I'm making it up. For the same reasons AnSC said. It's just not safe to go down there anymore. Our place is remote, so whatever happens, you are on your own.
We gave up trying to keep it locked. Just left stuff that wouldn't hurt too bad when it was gone or torn up when you got back. And like the thermostat, the jackasses would kick in the door before trying the knob, which was left unlocked.

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Did you try building a fence? Just kidding:-) But seriously how big is your place?

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What difference does that make?

Or, walk away from it because the current illegal immigration problem has gotten completely out of hand.

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Or, walk away from it because the current illegal immigration problem has gotten completely out of hand.

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DM me when you find someone walking away from their land on the border. I'll be waiting.

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Okay, since you're nonsensically splitting hairs, walk away from their property by selling it because of the current illegal immigration problem. Is that better?

Guys, don't feed the troll. Just flag it and ask mods to move it to politics board. For someone who claims to love the OB he sure did his best to derail this thread. The schtick is tiresome and completely devoid of logic or facts. Ignore function is a wonderful feature.

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Or, walk away from it because the current illegal immigration problem has gotten completely out of hand.

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DM me when you find someone walking away from their land on the border. I'll be waiting.

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Okay, since you're nonsensically splitting hairs, walk away from their property by selling it because of the current illegal immigration problem. Is that better?

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Here's my experience of land ownership on the border at least where I grew up. To be fair, I have not been back for many years but I am sure that it is the same now as it has been for forever. There are a small number of families who own absolutely enormous ranches. There are also much smaller parcels that are either owned by someone who wants their little place in the country like many of us do and people who go there to hunt during deer season.

I think of the area where I grew up as a lot like the hill country west of Austin only it seems like it is as far away as Mars.

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Well, thanks for lecturing us on the current state of affairs ...