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A buzzard can probably lift 10x it's body weight,

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Link, proof?

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There is a better chance of a Wild Turkey flying away with your dog.

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Even better chance that some of these claims come after consuming Wild Turkey.

Yeah, like under 8lb dogs not your damn collie

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Buzzards will attack small animals if hungry enough.

Ciy raised people with their google type answers is not what I am looking for. Please reframe if you can't answer the question without being a smarty pants.

I have seen buzzards attack and carry off small animals, fly high into the sky, and drop them like a sack of potatoes.

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City raised? What the hell does that have to do with anything.

I'll be glad to give you my "bird" credentials. My dad was a chemist for Shell Oil and was one hell of an amateur ornithologist. I've been around birds all my life. Ironically enough, my wife was Executive Director of Houston Audubon for 5 years. I may not be the worlds greatest ornithologist, but I'm not half bad. I even read ornithologist journals to this day.

Oh, and I have a BS in Chemistry and a doctorate. I'm fairly good at math.

Speaking of which, lets do some. A turkey vulture averages about 3.3 lbs and a black vulture 3.4 lbs.

A bird weighing less than 3.5 lbs is not going to fly off with a 25 lb dog. 7-8 lbs would be an absolute limit. Regardless if city or country raised, anybody who thinks a 3.4 lb bird can fly away with a 25 lb dog has a vivid imagination or listens to goofy ass sources.

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Hang on a sec.....are we talking about an African turkey vulture or a European turkey vulture?

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Wait, wild turkeys can carry off small dogs?

I need to re-think my decoy set up next spring.

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Just don't go oveboard with it. Subtlety is key. A little Pomeranian to the side of your flock does wonders!

it swooped me not 3 from from my head. A big powerful bird.

Like with everything, exceptions exist and I think this bird may have something like rabies. I also think this disease could be giving him additional power like those drug addicts that get all hyped up on chemical laced pot and become like supermen.

I purchased a plastic owl at Home Depot and nailed him to my back post in his fly alley way.

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Buzzards will attack small animals if hungry enough.

Ciy raised people with their google type answers is not what I am looking for. Please reframe if you can't answer the question without being a smarty pants.

I have seen buzzards attack and carry off small animals, fly high into the sky, and drop them like a sack of potatoes.


anyone know a decent way to eliminate the starker without getting in trouble please help!

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Hang on a sec.....are we talking about an African turkey vulture or a European turkey vulture?

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Doesn't matter. Neither one can beat it's wings 43 times per second in order to maintain air-speed velocity.

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Like with everything, exceptions exist and I think this bird may have something like rabies. I also think this disease could be giving him additional power like those drug addicts that get all hyped up on chemical laced pot and become like supermen.

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Well....you're not the first poster I took seriously when clearly you're just trolling.

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Hang on a sec.....are we talking about an African turkey vulture or a European turkey vulture?

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Doesn't matter. Neither one can beat it's wings 43 times per second in order to maintain air-speed velocity.

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It's possible if the vulture took off from a treadmill.

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You really think a 5 pound bird is going to pick up your 25 pound dog.

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Suppose it was 5 buzzards?

This has to be a troll

Maybe the bird inhales the neighbors pot smoke, I know they sit on the porch and smoke it at night. Crap stinks up the whole area.

I hate pot heads, they cause my dog to get killedby a buzzard and there will be hell to pay.

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I purchased a plastic owl at Home Depot and nailed him to my back post in his fly alley way.

My wife won't let me string up the wire, afraid the borders may jump into it as they defend their area as a dog should.

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Ide be very interested to see what effect the owl decoy has. My guess would be none, as owl don't prey upon vultures, so there would be no reason for a vulture to be afraid of an owl. But you never know- certainly doesn't hurt anything.

Is there any way to string the wire higher than the dogs can jump? Top of the fence if you have a tall one? Alternate, ypu could use string with flagging tape on it. The color and movement would discourage flight- while stirng wouldn't hurt pups.

Honest attempt to address concerns you expressed: If you are legitimately concerned about a diseased bird- I suggest you call animal control. They can resolve the issue legally if one really exists.

But as far as I know, birds can't contract rabies. Only mammals contract the disease- though I think I remember a study one time that found rabies antibodies in birds (still not the same thing as contracting the disease). I've also never heard of rabies altering or increasing physical attributes- only changing temperament. Rabies attacks the brain, and makes it deteriorate- thats why you see behavior changes. The disease causes aggression, which leads to bites, which is how it is transmitted.

I am no expert at all, so could be wrong. People who legitimate know these things exist on this board and will chime in.

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Like with everything, exceptions exist and I think this bird may have something like rabies. I also think this disease could be giving him additional power like those drug addicts that get all hyped up on chemical laced pot and become like supermen.

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Ok, ok you've had your fun. Nice troll.

Was 99% sure it was a troll until this post. I'm now 100% sure!

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I also think this disease could be giving him additional power like those drug addicts that get all hyped up on chemical laced pot and become like supermen.

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I got sucked in...

Well trolled!

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Have you checked your field for radioactive spiders? I'd hate to see one of your dogs get bit, and start walking up walls, and snagging tennis balls with webbing, rather than chasing them.

This is Nextdoor level stuff. Good job!

As a wildlife/bird photographer, this is some intriguing stuff. I'm not sure why there are so many skeptics on here. I think maybe they just need some video proof of these incidents. This video should preferably be converted to laser-disc first, and then posted on Craigslist along with your toolbox for sale under the name M F Barnes.

Your talking about a border collie, the most intelligent of all dogs. It should be able to out wit a doped up super vulture. It should be like Tom Herman playing chess against Charlie Strong.

I would guess 8' wing span
15 lbs

Plastic owl wasn't working, so I got this and glued it to the fence post. This owl cost me $559.00 and it didn't work but I came up with a better plan anyway.

I love your "plastic" owl to scare the pterodactyl-vulture away (his picture, not mine)

And I just noticed, a cicada shell is on the post... please, don't google the type of damage they can do to a dog!

This old dog is my bait

When he comes for the bait, he will be sorry!

Well played!