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Aggie Squared
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10:38p, 6/19/18
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Is there any AR style .22LR manufacturers with a metal based lower? My 7 year-old is just about to outgrow the Savage Rascal, but my Henry lever is just a bit too long of a pull for him. Looked at the M&P 15-22 and liked the idea of the collapsible stock but not necessarily the polymer lower if I can find something else as we shot about 250+ rounds on average a month.

Internet searches have not been helpful other than upgraded Ruger 10/22 and other models that do not seem available.

Thanks,
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10:40p, 6/19/18
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Kriss Defiance. Brought a few in and love them. Not hard to drop a binary in them, either.

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11:03p, 6/19/18
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The other option is a drop in conversion kit for a standard AR15.

https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/bolt-parts/bolt-carrier-groups/ar-15-m16-22lr-bravo-conversion-kits-prod54549.aspx

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11:03p, 6/19/18
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You can get a .22 conversion kit for ARs. Then when he gets old enough to shoot .223/5.56, he already has a rifle he's comfortable with.
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12:14a, 6/20/18
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A 7-year old doesn't need an AR style rifle. A standard Ruger 10/22 will do.
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12:17a, 6/20/18
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In reply to GSlice06 • 12:24a, 6/20/18
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GSlice06 said:
A 7-year old doesn't need an AR style rifle. A standard Ruger 10/22 will do.
"Need" is a four letter word in my store. It's never about need.
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In reply to GSlice06 • 6:11a, 6/20/18
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GSlice06 said:
A 7-year old doesn't need an AR style rifle. A standard Ruger 10/22 will do.


Your son doesn't need a semi-automatic .22 so buy him a semi-automatic .22
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In reply to FIDO*98* • 6:15a, 6/20/18
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I was wtf on that at first too.

But if you're deciding between a .22 conversion on a standard AR and a 10/22, the 10/22 is going to be lighter (unless you have an ultra lightweight AR build), which may be beneficial for a younger shooter.
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6:15a, 6/20/18
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We have a Ruger 10/22, a M&P 15-22, and a Mossberg Blaze 47 (black adjustable version). I would have never thought I'd say this before I owned it, but, that Blaze 47 is absolutely the most fun of the bunch to shoot. I've gotten to the point I reach for it first every time. It's also the least expensive even if cost isn't an issue.

Personally, I wouldn't worry about the polymer guns. The M&P and Blaze have held up just fine through thousands of rounds and both have the overall feel of solid well-made guns. If you want an metal gun that has the look of a MSR, a 3rd option would be to put the Magpul stock on a Ruger 10/22. We have one on ours and it definitely gave it a nicer feel and a modern look.

The Blaze and M&P both came from Eyeguy. Don't hesitate to give him a call.
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6:34a, 6/20/18
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Even shooting 250 a month you're not going to wear out the polymer lower on a M&P, OP. It's the way I'd go (and will go with my own kids)
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6:47a, 6/20/18
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I put my 10/22 in an Archangel stock. It's big and clunky, but it also has a bull barrel. Kids don't really like to shoot it as much as I thought they would.

That Blaze 47 though....why did you have to show me that? As much as I hate the actual AK, my boys are infatuated with it.
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In reply to GSlice06 • 7:02a, 6/20/18
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GSlice06 said:
A 7-year old doesn't need an AR style rifle. A standard Ruger 10/22 will do.


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10:22a, 6/20/18
I own multiple but for some reason the term "MSR" always rub me the wrong way.

Probably alone on that.

But to answer the op. A buddy has a 15-22 and it shots well and is an adequate rifle but I just can't get over how it just doesn't feel like a metal ar.

A 15-22 might be the right choice for a kid but i'd consider a conversion kit.
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10:27a, 6/20/18
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Start him out with an antique sporting rifle. 75 caliber or bust!
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10:29a, 6/20/18
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I put a complete CMMG .22LR upper on a complete lower from PSA. It works great.
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In reply to GSlice06 • 11:14a, 6/20/18
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GSlice06 said:
A 7-year old doesn't need an AR style rifle. A standard Ruger 10/22 will do.


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In reply to GSlice06 • 11:20a, 6/20/18
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GSlice06 said:
A 7-year old doesn't need an AR style rifle. A standard Ruger 10/22 will do.
I have a buddy whose 7yo son uses an AR to hunt with. With the stock collapsed it fits him much better than the youth model rifle that my buddy had bought (and his 9yo daughter uses to hunt with).
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In reply to FIDO*98* • 11:47a, 6/20/18
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Your son doesn't need a semi-automatic .22 so buy him a semi-automatic .22
My point exactly, so why does it need to be an AR style?
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In reply to GSlice06 • 11:49a, 6/20/18
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Why do you care?
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In reply to GSlice06 • 11:55a, 6/20/18
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GSlice06 said:
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Your son doesn't need a semi-automatic .22 so buy him a semi-automatic .22
My point exactly, so why does it need to be an AR style?
You keep using the term "need" when it's clearly not about "need". They have the same functionality so it's clearly about personal preference.
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In reply to GSlice06 • 12:07p, 6/20/18
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GSlice06 said:
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Your son doesn't need a semi-automatic .22 so buy him a semi-automatic .22
My point exactly, so why does it need to be an AR style?


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12:13p, 6/20/18
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**** it, like arguing with a fence post with y'all.
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In reply to GSlice06 • 12:20p, 6/20/18
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GSlice06 said:
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Your son doesn't need a semi-automatic .22 so buy him a semi-automatic .22
My point exactly, so why does it need to be an AR style?


Just out of curiosity, why do you feel he shouldn't have an AR style?

ETA: At what arbitrary age would an AR style rifle be acceptable to you for someone to own?
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12:22p, 6/20/18
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Looking at AR style purely for the adjustable stock. We are working on shouldering the stock properly and the reach is just too long on my other .22s (he has to tuck the stock under his shoulder). Collapsed, the MP-22 matches the Rascal stock I want something just a little bit longer but have yet to see anything just a little longer.

Also plan to take him hunting and will use one of my ARs and/or a future AR/upper, so learning to use the platform is a bonus.
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In reply to GSlice06 • 12:25p, 6/20/18
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GSlice06 said:
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Your son doesn't need a semi-automatic .22 so buy him a semi-automatic .22
My point exactly, so why does it need to be an AR style?


Well it doesn't 'need' to be any style, however, for a young shooter, the adjustability of LOP and reduced weight of the M&P 15-22 and the Blaze 47 make them far better choices than the 10/22. When my kids were younger and just learning to shoot I'd just load one round into the magazine. That turns a semi-auto a single shot pretty easily
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In reply to GSlice06 • 1:08p, 6/20/18
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GSlice06 said:
**** it, like arguing with a fence post with y'all.


Does the 10/22 have an adjustable length of pull?

Did you read the op?

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In reply to GSlice06 • 2:19p, 6/20/18
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GSlice06 said:
A 7-year old doesn't need an AR style rifle. A standard Ruger 10/22 will do.
Just curious as to what age one needs an AR style rifle? By specifying that a 7-year old doesn't, clearly you're implying that you know the appropriate age. Please advise.

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2:26p, 6/20/18
I know a lot about a little, and a little about a lot.
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In reply to GSlice06 • 2:34p, 6/20/18
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AR's are scary to me.

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2:38p, 6/20/18
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The AR scared me so I'm gonna go into my safe space and cry about how scary it was
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In reply to highvelocity • 2:40p, 6/20/18
I know a lot about a little, and a little about a lot.
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In reply to GSlice06 • 3:02p, 6/20/18
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GSlice06 said:
A 7-year old doesn't need an AR style rifle. A standard Ruger 10/22 will do.
What the hell does style have to do with anything?

Blue parachute of fail for you.
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In reply to GSlice06 • 3:31p, 6/20/18
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GSlice06 said:
**** it, like arguing with a fence post with y'all.
Because your argument has zero merit and is complete fudd.

An AR chambered in .22LR is no different than a 10/22 chambered in .22LR other than the AR out of the box is more ergonomic than a 10/22.

Why do you care what the OP wants to buy for their son?
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4:30p, 6/20/18
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I love my Smith & Wesson 15-22
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