Was cleaning up a little around a tree and noticed the leaves below. I think it's Virginia Creeper, but I've read it is possible for poison ivy/oak to have 5, 7 or 9 leaves. I wanted to verify since I planned on burning it.





Yesterday, when picking some dewberries, I noticed this. This has me a little more concerned. Especially since my kids are usually picking them by themselves. If it is poison ivy/oak, what is the best method to get rid of it? Roundup?

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Get the brush round up.

Do not kill with fire. As it can still get you.

Last two photos are definitely poison ivy. Plain roundup won't work well. Need to buy the roundup for ivy/vines or an equivalent ivy/vines brand. I forget the active chemical ingredient name but would recognize it if I saw it. In the past I've bought concentrates of different herbicides and made my own concoctions which have worked well.

Holy **** - four replies while I was typing mine. Damn, OB delivers!

Och26-58-87 said:

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Last two photos are definitely poison ivy. Plain roundup won't work well. Need to buy the roundup for ivy/vines or an equivalent ivy/vines brand. I forget the active chemical ingredient name but would recognize it if I saw it. In the past I've bought concentrates of different herbicides and made my own concoctions which have worked well.

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Bear in mind that will kill your dewberries as well if those vines are contacted.

Pretty tricky to kill the PI selectively if it is intermingled with desirable vines....

Leaves of three, let it be...

You need glyphosate herbicide or triclopyr herbicide... Brush B Gone or Round Up for Poison Ivy will work.

After spraying and killing, is there still risk in handling it? Do I need to rake it out and put in the dumpster or just let it be?

Kids will have to deal with some dead berry plants.

I've used glyphosate to kill poison ivy, but it took forever. Supposedly triclopyr works better. If you want to keep the dewberries alive, you can brush the herbicide on to the poison ivy with a cotton swab or sponge. Depending on how much there is, that may take a while though. I wouldn't do anything at all with it once it dies, just let it decompose in place.

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After killing, the oil (which causes the allergic reaction) can remain. After killing it, I'd put on some sort of rubber gloves, long sleeve shirt, and maybe even a plastic bag over the gloves, and then pull all of the plants out. Put the pulled plants in a plastic trash bag and throw away. I'd also throw away the bag and gloves I had on.

After doing all that, within 2 hours of finishing, wash your clothes and wash yourself thoroughly with a rag or washcloth in order to remove any oil that might have gotten on you despite your safeguards. Think of getting black engine oil off of you - simple soap won't do the trick by itself, you need a good soapy rag to really get it off.

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This works. Better yet, find someone like my neighbor who is not allergic to poison ivy. He can clean out that crap all day long and not get one welt. Me, I'm getting prednisone now after just looking at the pictures.

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Och26-58-87 said:

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Last two photos are definitely poison ivy. Plain roundup won't work well. Need to buy the roundup for ivy/vines or an equivalent ivy/vines brand. I forget the active chemical ingredient name but would recognize it if I saw it. In the past I've bought concentrates of different herbicides and made my own concoctions which have worked well.

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Bear in mind that will kill your dewberries as well if those vines are contacted.

Pretty tricky to kill the PI selectively if it is intermingled with desirable vines....

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Not if you spray close in and on a very calm day. I've been fortunate and been able to selectively kill it and not the good vines.

Just get a white Tyvec suit when handling that mess.

The top 2 pics are of Virginia creeper. 5 leaflets coming out from a central point. It is a good native vine that provides small dark berries that are good food for birds, but are toxic for people. The leaves are harmless. The sap can irritate sensitive skin but it doesn't produce the same kind of oil that poison ivy does, so use a little caution if clearing and prone to skin irritation.

Och26-58-87 said:

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JJMt said:

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After killing, the oil (which causes the allergic reaction) can remain. After killing it, I'd put on some sort of rubber gloves, long sleeve shirt, and maybe even a plastic bag over the gloves, and then pull all of the plants out. Put the pulled plants in a plastic trash bag and throw away. I'd also throw away the bag and gloves I had on.

After doing all that, within 2 hours of finishing, wash your clothes and wash yourself thoroughly with a rag or washcloth in order to remove any oil that might have gotten on you despite your safeguards. Think of getting black engine oil off of you - simple soap won't do the trick by itself, you need a good soapy rag to really get it off.

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This works. Better yet, find someone like my neighbor who is not allergic to poison ivy. He can clean out that crap all day long and not get one welt. Me, I'm getting prednisone now after just looking at the pictures.

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It's my understanding that even people who are "not allergic to it" can sometimes have a bad (and unexpected) reaction.

We'll just say I work with a lot of landscaping/mowing crews, every Spring we have a number of guys that "weren't allergic to poison ivy" suddenly get to learn the wonders of steroid shots. It is best to learn spot it and avoid it. It is rare that I don't have a couple small poison ivy rash dots on my arms (I generally hate long sleeves), but nothing to write home about. I very religiously follow the 2 hour rule. I keep a gallon of water and Dawn in my work truck. If I know or suspect I trapsed tthrough PI, I scrub my arms down with Dawn (used Tecnu for years, but have just as good of results with Dawn...and cheaper). Simple Green has worked pretty well too.

Tordon works great on poison ivy.

My brother had a run-in with pryopism due to this when he was a kid. Fortunately they were able to get it under control with steroids and histamine blockers before circulation was restricted too long.

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JJMt said:

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After killing, the oil (which causes the allergic reaction) can remain. After killing it, I'd put on some sort of rubber gloves, long sleeve shirt, and maybe even a plastic bag over the gloves, and then pull all of the plants out. Put the pulled plants in a plastic trash bag and throw away. I'd also throw away the bag and gloves I had on.

After doing all that, within 2 hours of finishing, wash your clothes and wash yourself thoroughly with a rag or washcloth in order to remove any oil that might have gotten on you despite your safeguards. Think of getting black engine oil off of you - simple soap won't do the trick by itself, you need a good soapy rag to really get it off.

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I've found if I scrub down with dawn dish soap after direct exposure I don't get any rash. Don't use a rag or anything. You use a rag and you'll end up just spreading the oil all over yourself.