Seriously? First all the YouTube banning, and now Reddit is going too? I know Reddit is super lefty and all, but still, this anti-gun hypocrisy is going to ruin our country.

Who needs reddit when you've got TexAgs?

Never browsed r/gundeals? 100k subscribers that posted every single deal on the internet. I had to unsubscribe for a while cause it was killing the wallet.

I hadn't heard of it until now. Then again, I've never been on reddit

Only one thing left to do. Blame Canada

https://g.co/kgs/VhNu9N

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I hadn't heard of it until now. Then again, I've never been on reddit

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Cool story brah!

I love the outdoors board but it's no gundeals.

I've been waiting for this post to pop up... that was pretty much the last thing I browsed Reddit for (other than r/CFB). I went ahead and deleted my account yesterday.

Are there any good alternatives? I found https://gun.deals/ and https://voat.co/v/Gundeals/ but neither are on par with the finds you would get off r/GunDeals.

It was nice to have the discussion about each deal, people finding better deals, people complaining how much 22 ammo used to be. It made it really easy to pull the trigger with the research done for you.

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I've been waiting for this post to pop up... that was pretty much the last thing I browsed Reddit for (other than r/CFB). I went ahead and deleted my account yesterday.

Are there any good alternatives? I found https://gun.deals/ and https://voat.co/v/Gundeals/ but neither are on par with the finds you would get off r/GunDeals.

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The r/gundeals mods contacted reddit to try and reverse the ban. I've read that more people are going to voat, but the following is very small still compared the original gundeals sub.

Is slick guns worth the daily stop?

Yeah I'm done giving reddit clicks. They banned r/gundeals but r/sexsells is still alive and "selling".

gun.deals is pretty good but not on the same level. I'm going to give VOAT a shot, and start trying to help build the community back up there.

On the same note, YouTube's actions are more concerning. Lots of good knowledge is going to be removed that needs to be reloacated to a more freedom friendly server.

I think a lot of folks are already venturing over to Vimeo right now

ETA: You are correct Finn

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On the same note, YouTube's actions are more concerning. Lots of good knowledge is going to be removed that needs to be reloacated to a more freedom friendly server.

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I think there are a ton a people doing just that. But what needs to happen, is for one of them website gurus to make a youtube 2.0. Read that full30 is trying to fill this need, but you have to be invited if you want to create content.

All the reloading bans is what has me really upset with youtube.

Forgive my ignorance.. but who all will be affected in that purge?

It's hard to believe YouTube would risk the traffic that guys like Demo Ranch and Hickok45 bring in.

You mean Vimeo?

BenderRodriguez said:

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On the same note, YouTube's actions are more concerning. Lots of good knowledge is going to be removed that needs to be reloacated to a more freedom friendly server.

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I read that one of the channels is moving their content over to PornHub.

Now you can have a good reason to explain to your wife why your internet history shows so many visits to PornHub.

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Forgive my ignorance.. but who all will be affected in that purge?

It's hard to believe YouTube would risk the traffic that guys like Demo Ranch and Hickok45 bring in.

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Basically, if your video "promotes" guns or gun components or anything related to guns, they are going to delete your channel. "Promotes" is a pretty subjective term. It's a matter of time until everything gun related is removed from YouTube.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-21/youtube-bans-firearm-sales-and-how-to-videos-prompting-backlash

That would be InrangeTV.

They do a lot of good work, and their fans make some pretty good memes.

Vimeo will follow suit. You can always download the YUDU App and post away. Just sayin'

Seriously...how hard is it to buy a domain and just advertise on youtube about it and make that go viral and basically transfer everything?

Same with gun deals.

Why are we relying on third party dirtbags for this? I think this move is a great move for the free market and gun owners.

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Seriously...how hard is it to buy a domain and just advertise on youtube about it and make that go viral and basically transfer everything?

Same with gun deals.

Why are we relying on third party dirtbags for this? I think this move is a great move for the free market and gun owners.

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Because it's isolating.

Look at the other thread about hunting in Texas declining. Is it good or bad for future gun rights for people who aren't currently gun owners or competitors to see informational videos about gun ownership, shooting, etc on the biggest platforms on the internet where they go for all their other information and entertainment?

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BrazosDog02 said:

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Seriously...how hard is it to buy a domain and just advertise on youtube about it and make that go viral and basically transfer everything?

Same with gun deals.

Why are we relying on third party dirtbags for this? I think this move is a great move for the free market and gun owners.

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Because it's isolating.

Look at the other thread about hunting in Texas declining. Is it good or bad for future gun rights for people who aren't currently gun owners or competitors to see informational videos about gun ownership, shooting, etc on the biggest platforms on the internet where they go for all their other information and entertainment?

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This. I personally think that an overall social media platform that flat out would refuse to wade into politics in regards to banning things could do well, the problem is that it would be so far behind the rest of them that it would probably only attract the fringes.

That being said, isn't there some sort of court case moving forward now that could affect this stuff? Something about social media being a public forum so they shouldn't be able to censor political stuff? I don't agree with it, but someone may know what I'm talking about here.

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BenderRodriguez said:

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BrazosDog02 said:

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Seriously...how hard is it to buy a domain and just advertise on youtube about it and make that go viral and basically transfer everything?

Same with gun deals.

Why are we relying on third party dirtbags for this? I think this move is a great move for the free market and gun owners.

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Because it's isolating.

Look at the other thread about hunting in Texas declining. Is it good or bad for future gun rights for people who aren't currently gun owners or competitors to see informational videos about gun ownership, shooting, etc on the biggest platforms on the internet where they go for all their other information and entertainment?

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This. I personally think that an overall social media platform that flat out would refuse to wade into politics in regards to banning things could do well, the problem is that it would be so far behind the rest of them that it would probably only attract the fringes.

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OK...I have to disagree..or maybe we aren't talking about the same thing.

How is creating a different youtube isolating? You can't find porn on youtube....you go to a video site specifically for it. Youtube is for cat videos. Someone created youtube...someone else create a guntube. Instead of typing in www.youtube.com and searching...you type in www.gunvideos.com or whatever and type there.

I fail completely to see how this is in any way like the hunting thread or isolating. Isn't there a whole slew of videos banned from youtube?

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Is it good or bad for future gun rights for people who aren't currently gun owners or competitors to see informational videos about gun ownership, shooting, etc on the biggest platforms on the internet where they go for all their other information and entertainment?

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Like I said, I guess I don't get it. if my gun video search on a search engine takes me to youtube, so be it, if it takes me to guntube, gunvids, pornhub...that's fine too. I don't really care.


What am I missing here? In other words, who gives a **** where it lives?

By the way, I think it sucks and its a stupid thing to ban. It will also take time to get it hosted elsewhere. But in the long run, you will no doubt end up with a dedicated gun video site that will be run how you want it to run.

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TheEyeGuy said:

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BenderRodriguez said:

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BrazosDog02 said:

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Seriously...how hard is it to buy a domain and just advertise on youtube about it and make that go viral and basically transfer everything?

Same with gun deals.

Why are we relying on third party dirtbags for this? I think this move is a great move for the free market and gun owners.

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Because it's isolating.

Look at the other thread about hunting in Texas declining. Is it good or bad for future gun rights for people who aren't currently gun owners or competitors to see informational videos about gun ownership, shooting, etc on the biggest platforms on the internet where they go for all their other information and entertainment?

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This. I personally think that an overall social media platform that flat out would refuse to wade into politics in regards to banning things could do well, the problem is that it would be so far behind the rest of them that it would probably only attract the fringes.

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OK...I have to disagree..or maybe we aren't talking about the same thing.

How is creating a different youtube isolating? You can't find porn on youtube....you go to a video site specifically for it. Youtube is for cat videos. Someone created youtube...someone else create a guntube. Instead of typing in www.youtube.com and searching...you type in www.gunvideos.com or whatever and type there.

I fail completely to see how this is in any way like the hunting thread or isolating.

What am I missing here?

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Because it takes guns out of the view of mainstream audiences. We have a problem in both hunting and gun worlds in that our numbers may be going up but the percentages are going down. Both are constantly being bombarded by the left and we don't really have a good way to fight back. I love the idea of a guntube in regards to having a centralized place of making it easy to find gun stuff, but those people who are in the middle that would stumble across it for whatever reason now will never do so.

Take demolition ranch, for example. He makes videos that are entertaining and centered around guns. There are definitely a lot of people out there that will watch those videos because they are fun, even if not a hard core gun person. By removing that channel from youtube, you're taking one of the better ambassadors of the gun world away from casual audiences. On top of that, where do they draw the line? Anything pro gun? So if someone makes a video talking about how gun control doesn't really work, is youtube going to ban that? When that happens, then you have your biggest media center on the internet only showing guns as negative. If you don't think that will make a difference, I don't know what to tell you. The look at our news media now. Insanely anti gun and that has obviously affected the views of Americans.

Think of it this way, what if Texags came out and deleted the OB. Not something even remotely worriesome right now, but just go along with this as a thought experiment. Of the people on the OB, what percentage come here mainly for the OB? How many are on the OB because it's a part of Texags? If the OB was axed and we had to move to a different forum, what percentage of people would follow?

What they are doing makes gun stuff more of a pariah. I'm not embarrassed to be a gun owner, for obvious reasons, but there is an overall sense of negativity that is expressed by the mainstream sites banning things about guns. I don't like it, I don't agree with it, but it is there. On top of that, I can absolutely tell you that you'll lose a LOT of people that won't follow over. Now, all these channels will have to reup on new sites. What if someone registers their name first? If someone goes over to a guntube and registers hickok45 before he does, he now has to make a new name and it's even harder to follow him over.

Everything about this is a negative for the gun world.

Great post Eye

TexAgs doesn't have any deals. You would have spent half your pipeline money on that website if I would have turned you onto it.

Ah...great explanation. I see the perspective now. It makes sense. I did not really think that far into it. I'm more of a '**** it, I'll find a different solution" kind of person, but I do see how the casual person and the new lack of exposure is not good and instead of instructing and desensitizing, we now have isolation.

Nice work. I appreciate the write up...you too, bender.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-22/citigroup-restricts-some-gun-sales-by-its-business-customers

More isolation-ing.

Now that's going to piss me off when I can't buy my f-ing parts online or from eyeguy with my GD credit card.

Seriously piss me off. I rack up a lot of reward points from wasting money on gun stuff.

OK...so..another off the cuff kneejerk comment....

How far do we go with banning videos and banning gun purchases before a court says its 'infringing' on rights?

Serious question...where does this end? Because, the way I see this, it's like making whipping your kids with a switch legal but cutting down all the trees in the yard.

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BenderRodriguez said:

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On the same note, YouTube's actions are more concerning. Lots of good knowledge is going to be removed that needs to be reloacated to a more freedom friendly server.

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I read that one of the channels is moving their content over to PornHub.

Now you can have a good reason to explain to your wife why your internet history shows so many visits to PornHub.

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I don't have to explain. She already knows who's at fault...

I don't like how gun enthusiasts are being positioned and many are responding, "yeah F- these guys" is unrealistic because it is now extending to almost everywhere and it makes me concerned.

Walking away from Reddit will not do anything but restrict me further, not using my citi card, and avoiding Youtube is the same thing.

They are treating this like Porn, which again is not a good role model for a constitutional right for all.

Except they aren't because reddit is full of porn.