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Driveway costs: Concrete vs base & gravel

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AgEng06
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Does anyone have a quick estimate of costs for doing a driveway in concrete vs base/gravel? I'm in the Austin area and just wanting to get a basic idea of the cost scale. The driveway will be approximately 175' long by 12' wide.
Naveronski
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From the other thread, I think 10-12 bags of quikrete will do.

At $4.30 a bag, it should be ~$56.
ABCDE
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$4.50 - $5.00 a square ft is what mine cost 2 years ago.
AgEng06
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Thanks.

How does depth figure into that cost? I'm used to seeing road/gravel amounts in $/cu yd.
Apache
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Around 5k for 6" base & 3-4" gravel. I'd have to look at it to give you a better estimate than that.
AgEng06
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Thanks. That's about what I had estimated as well on the base/gravel option.
JP76
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~11k-13k for concrete depending on logistics etc
Bayside Tiger Ag
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AgEng06 said:

Does anyone have a quick estimate of costs for doing a driveway in concrete vs base/gravel? I'm in the Austin area and just wanting to get a basic idea of the cost scale. The driveway will be approximately 175' long by 12' wide.
OP, I just had a thread like this a few weeks ago.
I was helping my BIL near longview build a 70' x 30' concrete driveway and we weren't sure what the best wood to use for the lattice foundation would be. We had 15 bags of quikrete but it wasn't enough.

We went with a contractor based on feedback. It was around $10K all things considered
schmellba99
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I still have no fuggin clue what a "lattice foundation is". And I am a contractor, one that does a whole mess of concrete.
schmellba99
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ROUGH estimate

Concrete, 4" thic, #4 reinforcing at 12" OC - $10k to $13 k

Gravel, 8" thick, installed - $6k to $9k depending on site conditions
Bayside Tiger Ag
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rebar
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schmellba99 said:

ROUGH estimate

Concrete, 4" thic, #4 reinforcing at 12" OC - $10k to $13 k

Gravel, 8" thick, installed - $6k to $9k depending on site conditions
This is what I would estimate as well.
schmellba99
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BlueDeviledAg said:

rebar


Rebar is a strengthening aid to concrete, calling something a "lattice foundation" because it has rebar in it is, well, ignorant.
AgEng06
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schmellba99 said:

BlueDeviledAg said:

rebar


Rebar is a strengthening aid to concrete, calling something a "lattice foundation" because it has rebar in it is, well, ignorant.
Yeah, well... his initial question was what kind of wood to use for the "lattice foundation"... so I'm assuming he was pretty ignorant of the process (or trolling us).
MouthBQ98
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Remesh looks like lattice made of thin rebar. If you don't know the word remesh, you might call it lattice, which is a generic term for a plane of interlocking linear repeating structures.
Bayside Tiger Ag
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MouthBQ98 said:

Remesh looks like lattice made of thin rebar. If you don't know the word remesh, you might call it lattice, which is a generic term for a plane of interlocking linear repeating structures.
Right, the lattice foundation
schmellba99
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MouthBQ98 said:

Remesh looks like lattice made of thin rebar. If you don't know the word remesh, you might call it lattice, which is a generic term for a plane of interlocking linear repeating structures.
In my 41 years on earth, this is the only place I've ever heard somebody attempt to describe it in this manner. And trust me, I've come across a mess of ignorant folks.

I'm not even sure BlueDevil knows what the word "foundation" means to be frank.
aggielostinETX
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Lattice and remesh look geometrically the same.

It's great when people act superior to others for no good reason.
Secolobo
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schmellba99 said:

ROUGH estimate

Concrete, 4" thic, #4 reinforcing at 12" OC - $10k to $13 k

Gravel, 8" thick, installed - $6k to $9k depending on site conditions
Concrete is permanent. Make it 6" thick if doing it for yourself. (Advice from old concrete men.)
Can I go to sleep Looch?
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schmellba99
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Deats said:

Lattice and remesh look geometrically the same.

It's great when people act superior to others for no good reason.


The moon and a shotgun pellet look geometrically the same, i suppose if people started calling it moon shot, you would have no issues?

There is no such thing as a "lattice foundation". Bluedevil has been told this multiple times, yet still uses idiotic nomenclature that makes no sense.

HTMFH
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schmellba99
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Depends on the direction of load as to where the rebar needs to be. With a 4" thick SOG, a #4 bar in the center is still going to provide a healthy amount of tensile strength. Significantly better than not having any, especially if you have expansive soils with a PI over 20 as your native substrate.

But yes, you are correct on needing to place it correctly in the section of the beam.

Remesh is crap, good for sidewalks and that is about it.
aggielostinETX
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Ok champ
bobbranco
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Deats said:

Lattice and remesh look geometrically the same.

It's great when people act superior to others for no good reason.


What the heck?

Welded wire fabric gets called all sorts of names.

Oh and all concrete cracks.
Jason Ag
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Can anyone recommend some good concrete construction/engineering reference material?
Naveronski
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Jason Ag said:

Can anyone recommend some good concrete construction/engineering reference material?


https://texags.com/forums/34/topics/2915227/
schmellba99
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Jason Ag said:

Can anyone recommend some good concrete construction/engineering reference material?
ACI (American Concrete Institute) is the governing body when it comes to concrete design, placement procedures, etc.

CRSI (Concrete Reinforcing Steel Institute) governs reinforcing steel (including rebar, remesh, post tensioned cables, pre-tensioned cables and some other items).

Not sure exactly what you are looking for though. Huge difference in engineering between a sidewalk and bridge girders and everything in between. If you can be more specific, I'm betting there are folks on this board that can point you in the right direction.
Jason Ag
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Thanks, I'm interested in mostly transportation related projects, design and best practices for pouring/finishing.
gwellis
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AgEng06 said:

Does anyone have a quick estimate of costs for doing a driveway in concrete vs base/gravel? I'm in the Austin area and just wanting to get a basic idea of the cost scale. The driveway will be approximately 175' long by 12' wide.
Flat work runs about $5.00/sf
Gil '91
jmazz
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I had this done for $11k in spring 2017...

"Approx 880 linear ft.

Driveway Cut-In. Build up road bed and compact.

Spread Gravel - Place 1 1/2" crushed limestone roadbase 4-6 inches thick +/- 12 feet wide approx 880 ft.

Contingency - Final cost may be 10% higher or lower that the number shown below.

Culverts do not appear to be necessary at this time. Addition of culverts will be priced for approval if they are deemed necessary once ditches are cut."
schmellba99
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Jason Ag said:

Thanks, I'm interested in mostly transportation related projects, design and best practices for pouring/finishing.
TXDOT will also be a great place to look. They are the GAWD in Texas for all things transportation related - almost every design and jurisdiction is going to reference TXDOT standards when it comes to roads (concrete, asphalt, bridges of all types, culverts, etc.). About the only more stringent design systems will be your railroad specifications - those guys are insane with their requirements and design standards.

If you aren't in Texas, whichever state DOT you are in will be the same.

When it comes to placement and finish, ACI is the go to resource. Every project I've ever been involved with that had any concrete references back to ACI standards (ACI 350 is the most common).
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