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CaptnCarl
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Trying to help a friend buy some longhorn cattle to fulfill their Ag exemption on a property outside Austin. They're looking for a very typical (Bevo) looking longhorn. They've reached out to Sunset ranch, but no luck.

Anybody know a ranch around Austin selling longhorn steers? Looking to buy in the next week or so.
flashplayer
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Try googling. Several websites advertise most breeds in most states.

Can't help you beyond that but I'm curious as to the rush to buy.
tmaggies
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Hobby cows......
Spore Ag
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Yard Art
wamvoss
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I can get you a pair of 7+ wide horn steers pretty quick located in junction. Have pics. Call or txt 830 eight two two 71zero one.
will.mcg
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Craigslist farm & garden section all day every day.
CaptnCarl
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Thanks for the recs, especially the googling advice ha! Very insightful.

Yup, just like all other animal and everything else in the outdoor forum, these would strictly be for mans enjoyment. Strictly to look at.
tamc1956ag
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Kemp in Lampasas, Texas sells Longhorns...they join up to my property...ON Taylor st.
Allen76
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I have seen them on Craigslist.

I have successfully sold two bulls on Craigslist, but I don't think I would ever buy cattle on Craigslist.
MAROON
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just make sure you cut their nuts off.
will.mcg
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Do you primarily buy at auction or have you been in it long enough to know reputable sellers?
agwrangler2001
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http://www.tlbaa.org/breeders/
CaptnCarl
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Only cattle I've bought is sold by the pound from the butcher ha! There's a longhorn auction in Fort Worth in January, but I think we're looking for something ASAP. Looking for a breeder word of mouth. My google works just fine.
Corps_Ag12
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CaptnCarl said:

Only cattle I've bought is sold by the pound from the butcher ha! There's a longhorn auction in Fort Worth in January, but I think we're looking for something ASAP. Looking for a breeder word of mouth. My google works just fine.

The cattle at that auction get expensive quick.
reddog90
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Box Z
oscar9
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call Frank Sharp in Brownwood. He did a thesis on longhorns and raises his own. According to him, the ones with the big horns aren't "real" longhorns.
dtrAG08
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Facebook Rosebrock Ranch. Rule #1 applies.
Jim Rosebrock is my fil.
Aggie owned and operated.
Martin Cash
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CaptnCarl said:

Trying to help a friend buy some longhorn cattle to fulfill their Ag exemption on a property outside Austin. They're looking for a very typical (Bevo) looking longhorn. They've reached out to Sunset ranch, but no luck.

Anybody know a ranch around Austin selling longhorn steers? Looking to buy in the next week or so.
Where outside Austin? There are a number of longhorn ranches south of town, in Lockhart area.
maddiedou
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Captain Give me a text tomorrow at 979-8two o-l87o

I know a guy here in college station that has some very good longhorns I have no idea what the cost but very pretty and has been selling and buying for about 40 years or so
tlepoC
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Friends have some in the Mason area looking for good homes. http://www.threecreeksranchlonghorns.com. Contact info on the site.
Allen76
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will.mcg said:

Do you primarily buy at auction or have you been in it long enough to know reputable sellers?
I have never bought at an auction. The only thing I have bought in the last ten years is my last four bulls which came from various people by word of mouth.

The only way I have sold is the two bulls on Craigslist and the regular calf crop and old cows at the auction in Hondo .... Union Commission Co.

One of these days when I retire I will be able to take a Monday and go see how the auction works. I have never seen them work since I was 18 years old.......45 years ago! I just deliver there on Sunday and wait for the check in the mail.
SA Ag 91
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Kinda curious....did anyone from the TAOB take delivery of a longhorn in the Bucee's parking lot this past Saturday around noon?
hammerhead
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You sure they dont want some beef cattle?
BoerneGator
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dtrAG08 said:

Facebook Rosebrock Ranch. Rule #1 applies.
Jim Rosebrock is my fil.
Aggie owned and operated.
THE Jim Rosebrock, from GW? He was a stud athlete!
Went to school with his older sisters, (who could whip most any boy, btw). Where is his ranch?
B-1 83
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Nobody else asked, so I will.....

Why longhorns? Doesn't your friend want cattle he can actually sell later?
Blanco Jimenez
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B-1 83 said:

Nobody else asked, so I will.....

Why longhorns? Doesn't your friend was cattle he can actually sell later?
OP said he wanted something to look at.
Sean98
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Blanco Jimenez said:

B-1 83 said:

Nobody else asked, so I will.....

Why longhorns? Doesn't your friend was cattle he can actually sell later?
OP said he wanted something to look at.

No, OP said his friend wanted to game the tax system and take advantage of an exemption that he doesn't really deserve.
2468
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Sean98 said:

Blanco Jimenez said:

B-1 83 said:

Nobody else asked, so I will.....

Why longhorns? Doesn't your friend was cattle he can actually sell later?
OP said he wanted something to look at.

No, OP said his friend wanted to game the tax system and take advantage of an exemption that he doesn't really deserve.



Please tell us the law he's breaking.
Sean98
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Please tell me where I said he was breaking a law.
BoerneGator
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Sean98 said:

Blanco Jimenez said:

B-1 83 said:

Nobody else asked, so I will.....

Why longhorns? Doesn't your friend was cattle he can actually sell later?
OP said he wanted something to look at.

No, OP said his friend wanted to game the tax system and take advantage of an exemption that he doesn't really deserve.


Quote:

to manipulate to one's advantage, especially by trickery; attempt to take advantage of: The policy is flawed and many people try to game the system.
Okay, old friend, please explain how the quoted definition applies here, and why exactly "he doesn't deserve " said exemption? Or did I miss your sarcasm?
Sean98
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You did not miss any sarcasm. And for others, I never said he broke any law. But he is certainly gaming the system by exploiting an exemption for something other than it's intended purpose. And he has every right to do so.

Quality tax policy is developed to provide revenue to pay for necessary services. We can argue all day over what those services should be, or whether the exemption or credit is really a laudable purpose, but that is a topic for another day (and another forum). And then to provide tax incentives and/or exemptions for legitimate purposes. In this particular instance the legislature and local units of government chose to provide an agricultural exemption for legitimate agricultural purposes. The fact that this individual is looking to buy a couple of longhorns, and do it fast, proves to me that this is not a legitimate ag enterprise. Rather it is an attempt to shoehorn his recreational, or investment property, into a loophole intended for legitimate agricultural enterprises.

The outcome of gaming the system like this means that the existing property tax system doesn't raise the revenue that it is needed to pay for the core identified services. That means that property tax rates on other properties must be raised in order to generate that necessary revenue. So by individual A using a loophole to reduce his tax liability then he essentially raises taxes on all of his neighbors to pay for his reduction. Or more likely at this point in the system, state/local government know that non-ag entities will find a way to (barely) meet the ag exemption, so they set the property tax artificially high to account for that lost revenue.

So two groups of people here should be upset in my mind. (1) all other property tax payers; & (2) legitimate agricultural producers. ...because if enough people do this (and they do) then it potentially endangers the continued existence of the ag exemption itself.

This is very similar to the commercials you see on late night TV... "Owe the IRS more than $20,000?? You don't have to pay it! We can settle for pennies on the dollar!" What that means in reality is that people with actual tax burdens who don't pay simply shift that burden to other law-abiding citizens. Or people who buy items online and do not pay their state/local use tax (<-- only those people actually are breaking the law).

From the Texas Comptroller Ag Qualifications Document
Quote:

What kind of special consideration? For example, the total property tax bill for a 100 acre tract of
non-agricultural land in the Lockhart Independent School District worth $2,998 per acre in 2012
would be $3,558.03. The tax on 100 acres of open native pasture land that qualifies for agricultural
appraisal would be $83.08.
So there is great incentive for a property owner in the Lockhart ISD to gain an agricultural exemption. ...but it shifts almost $3500 in tax burden to other properties, or takes $3500 away from local schools and roads.


RCR06
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Whoops missed a post
2468
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Sean98 I didn't read your wall of text because I don't care about your thoughts on the issue.

Anybody critical of someone operating within the law to keep their money out of government hands is a fool.

I have an ag exemption on my property.

The idea that I am required to pay taxes on property that I already own is complete bull***** The sacrifices I have made in my lifetime in order to purchase the property should be payment enough to the State. I should not live in fear of armed men taking my property should I fail to pay a tax.
RCR06
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Sounds like you did read Sean's post.

I understand what Sean is saying and to some extent agree with what he said, but I also don't have a problem with people taking advantage of legal ways to reduce their tax burden.
Burrus86
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Am I the only one that thinks we need to dehorn the Longhorns in question....saw'em off to be precise?
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