Dumb question. How do you folks use the clip for a pocket knife? Attach to what? As a money clip?

The clip holds the knife at the top of a pant pocket so you don't have to fish for it down deep in your pocket. Truth be told I almost never use the clip.

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Nice looking knives.

I'll be honest, I carry and use a knife every day, I've never spent $100....or $40 for that matter.

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There was a time when a pocket knife was a handy tool and not a collectible or something to show off. Still is for me, and I don't recall every paying even $40 for one either. Most of mine are at least 30 years old.

I remember being on a business road trip and realizing 200 miles from home that I had forgotten my knife. Since I needed one to operate my business, I bought a cheap one in a convenience store and used it one weekend - it served me well. It's in a box with about 30 others.

I do have one new-ish one - a small Outdoor Edge folder that I paid less than $20 for. Sharp as a razor.

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OP I really like that the Delica you show seems to let you put the clip on either side. Wish my Kershaw allowed that.

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You can do both sides, and either end so 4 points to mount the clip.

Thought of that after I posted. That makes some sense but agreed I would not use the clip much.

Isn't the spyderco made in China and the Benchmade made in the US? Another difference between the two. I'm a huge fan of Benchmade

Delica 4 is made in Japan, Bugout is made in USA.

I carry mine in my back right pocket, as I am right-handed for easy draw. The clip allows it to sit snugly on the corner of the pocket and I can access it fairly quickly.

I carry this Kershaw. For under $100, I think it is a great EDC option:

https://www.amazon.com/Kershaw-Onion-Folding-Knife-Speed/dp/B0009VCA0I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1505169352&sr=8-1&keywords=kershaw+ken+onion

Not a knife expert....but if I went to something similiar in a better steel, would it hold the edge longer?

Have a spyderco, but it is too small for my fat hands now.

Yes a better steel would potentially hold an edge longer. Rather or not you would actually notice a significant difference depends on the type of steel you're switching to but more importantly it depends on how you're using the knife. The thing is that the Kershaw you linked has good steel and they are known for good heat treatment. The other thing to consider is that with "better" steel also comes with a more brittle blade that is harder to sharpen.

A premium steel will definitely hold an edge longer than a cheap knife steel like 440C.

My Benchmade 710 with M2HS steel is a total pain to sharpen and it would be impossible without the right tools. It also takes the best high polish edge I've ever seen and holds it forever cutting through anything and everything. I haven't sharpened this thing in a couple of years and could comfortably shave with it right now.

Also, premium steels are definitely not "more brittle" by default. Some may sacrifice durability for wear resistance but it totally depends on the steel. I've got a hunting knife in CPM 3V that holds a terrific edge, much better than any non-premium steel and it's also far tougher than any non-premium steel. Check out this torture test of CPM 3V:

My 96 year old grandfather passed last week and one thing he passed down to all of us grandsons were some little 3" Kbar mother of pearl pocket knives. Aparently they're older and discontinued and one had one for each of us.

Wish I could figure out how to post pictures (thanks Photobucket) because this thing is pretty cool.

Lol 440C is ideal for pocket knives in my opinion. Certainly not a crappy steel.

CactusThomas said:

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Lol 440C is ideal for pocket knives in my opinion. Certainly not a crappy steel.

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I prefer VG10 in most knives. It holds a nice edge, but isn't a pain to sharpen.

I carry a small puma gentleman, just like my old man always has. Cheap knife that holds a great edge.

awesome video!

CactusThomas said:

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Lol 440C is ideal for pocket knives in my opinion. Certainly not a crappy steel.

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If you like sharpening your knife on a regular basis it's a very good steel. If you like a razor sharp edge that holds, it's sub-par.

I sharpen it about once a month, and use it fairly regular, although it seems mainly for cardboard or opening things that are taped, so I am happy with it.

I may look at something with a more durable edge for carrying while hunting.

Please don't use Photobucket. Try imgur.com

Kershaw Shuffle for day to day stuff around the office.

Decent steel for the money, pretty sure its 8Cr13MoV. Better edge retention than 440C, but pretty easy to hone if I got a couple free minutes.

A.G.S. said:

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Decent steel for the money, pretty sure its 8Cr13MoV. Better edge retention than 440C, but pretty easy to hone if I got a couple free minutes.

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Good Lord, who told you 8Cr13MoV is better than 440C?

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A.G.S. said:

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Decent steel for the money, pretty sure its 8Cr13MoV. Better edge retention than 440C, but pretty easy to hone if I got a couple free minutes.

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Good Lord, who told you 8Cr13MoV is better than 440C?

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Agreed! Even 440B is a better steel.

Those two are actually pretty similar, but yeah I'd trust the American 440B over that.

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A.G.S. said:

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Decent steel for the money, pretty sure its 8Cr13MoV. Better edge retention than 440C, but pretty easy to hone if I got a couple free minutes.

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Good Lord, who told you 8Cr13MoV is better than 440C?

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Sorry if I upset ya, allow me to rephrase:

The 8Cr13MoV on my Kershaws SEEMS to hold an edge better than the dozens of knives I have with 440C.

As far as other aspects, I don't know if its better or not. I keep my knives clean, so I don't really worry about corrosion resistance. All my field knives are carbon steel, so I am pretty religious about cleaning and oiling blades.

Don't think I have any blades with 440B, so I can't speak to that, but if it's an American steel I would imagine it at least has better consistency than the cheap Chinese steels.

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CactusThomas said:

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A.G.S. said:

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Decent steel for the money, pretty sure its 8Cr13MoV. Better edge retention than 440C, but pretty easy to hone if I got a couple free minutes.

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Good Lord, who told you 8Cr13MoV is better than 440C?

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Sorry if I upset ya, allow me to rephrase:

The 8Cr13MoV on my Kershaws SEEMS to hold an edge better than the dozens of knives I have with 440C.

As far as other aspects, I don't know if its better or not. I keep my knives clean, so I don't really worry about corrosion resistance. All my field knives are carbon steel, so I am pretty religious about cleaning and oiling blades.

Don't think I have any blades with 440B, so I can't speak to that, but if it's an American steel I would imagine it at least has better consistency than the cheap Chinese steels.

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CactusThomas said:

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A.G.S. said:

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Decent steel for the money, pretty sure its 8Cr13MoV. Better edge retention than 440C, but pretty easy to hone if I got a couple free minutes.

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Good Lord, who told you 8Cr13MoV is better than 440C?

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Agreed! Even 440B is a better steel.

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Per everything I see on the net, they are comparable. The 440b has a bit more carbon and chromium, but the 8Cr13MoV has some vanadium and nickel, which the 440b lacks.

What 440C knives do you have?

440C is a better steel than 440B.

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DatTallArchitect said:

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CactusThomas said:

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A.G.S. said:

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Decent steel for the money, pretty sure its 8Cr13MoV. Better edge retention than 440C, but pretty easy to hone if I got a couple free minutes.

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Good Lord, who told you 8Cr13MoV is better than 440C?

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Agreed! Even 440B is a better steel.

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Per everything I see on the net, they are comparable. The 440b has a bit more carbon and chromium, but the 8Cr13MoV has some vanadium and nickel, which the 440b lacks.

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There's a lot more that goes into a blade metal than the elements in them, such as how they are hardened.

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garc said:

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DatTallArchitect said:

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CactusThomas said:

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A.G.S. said:

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Decent steel for the money, pretty sure its 8Cr13MoV. Better edge retention than 440C, but pretty easy to hone if I got a couple free minutes.

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Good Lord, who told you 8Cr13MoV is better than 440C?

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Agreed! Even 440B is a better steel.

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Per everything I see on the net, they are comparable. The 440b has a bit more carbon and chromium, but the 8Cr13MoV has some vanadium and nickel, which the 440b lacks.

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There's a lot more that goes into a blade metal than the elements in them, such as how they are hardened.

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Can you provide something that backs up your assertion that it is "better"? There are different aspects to a blade's metal, e.g. edge retention, corrosion resistance, wear resistance, etc... Everything I see makes no generic claim that it is "better"; other than your claim.

I'll see what I can dig up after work. Just going by past experience, it didn't seem to hold an edge as well. As I've stated before, I'm not a fan of the 440 steels either. All are too soft for my liking.