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AR 300 Blkout Scope/Optic Suggestions

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AnScAggie
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I bought an Ambush 300 several months ago because I got a pretty good deal, but I have yet to get an optic. What do y'all that have an AR style 300 suggest??
AgBass01
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I'm about to start putting together a 300 blackout myself and I am looking at this scope. I just got an email from Primary Arms about it being on sale right now.

Nikon P-300 2-7x32mm Riflescope - .300 Blackout SuperSub BDC Reticle
HumbleAg04
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AgBass01 said:

I'm about to start putting together a 300 blackout myself and I am looking at this scope. I just got an email from Primary Arms about it being on sale right now.

Nikon P-300 2-7x32mm Riflescope - .300 Blackout SuperSub BDC Reticle

I have one. Glass is ok. Seems like a good budget scope and has a bunch of positive reviews. I'm using it on a Ruger American Ranch that I have a suppressor on and plan on shooting <75 yards.
AgBass01
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HumbleAg04 said:

AgBass01 said:

I'm about to start putting together a 300 blackout myself and I am looking at this scope. I just got an email from Primary Arms about it being on sale right now.

Nikon P-300 2-7x32mm Riflescope - .300 Blackout SuperSub BDC Reticle

I have one. Glass is ok. Seems like a good budget scope and has a bunch of positive reviews. I'm using it on a Ruger American Ranch that I have a suppressor on and plan on shooting <75 yards.
Awesome, thanks for the info on it. All I'm looking for is a budget scope at this time so I can get the thing done. Eventually I'll look at a X-Sight so I can have the option of night vision for hog hunting at night.
highvelocity
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i have a trijicon accupoint on my ambush in 6.8. obviously not the same caliber, but the platform handles the scope well and is easy to carry in the field.
Nealthedestroyer
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Primary Arms 1-6x with the ACSS reticle calibrated for 300blk is what I'm looking at.
aggielostinETX
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AnScAggie said:

I bought an Ambush 300 several months ago because I got a pretty good deal, but I have yet to get an optic. What do y'all that have an AR style 300 suggest??
All you need... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OD2L62M/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Terk
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watching.


I know what I WANT, but I'm open to suggestions... may find something that I like better!
ZooGuy
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I'll piggy-back on this thread.

Looking at possibly getting an AR-10.

Optic suggestions for that?
AgBass01
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Nikon makes one of the P series for 308 as well.
highvelocity
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ZooGuy said:

I'll piggy-back on this thread.

Looking at possibly getting an AR-10.

Optic suggestions for that?
vortex 4-16x50 is what i have on mine
35chililights
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Happy with my cheaper 1-6x vortex strike eagle on top my 300.

I think its worth more than the 320 bucks I picked it up for.


I mean it's a 300blk. What's the likelihood you'll be shooting past 250 yards?
For my intended use, it's rare I'll go past 150 yards. 1-6x works well for that.
AnScAggie
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I was leaning towards a Vortex Strikefire, Sparc, or Spitfire, or going for something like a 1-4x or 2-7x scope.
35chililights
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I have the sparc on my 223. I would think on a 300 blackout it would work very well.

However, if you plan on doing a lot of sub sonic shooting past 100 yards, you might want at least a little bit of a reticle to guess your drops.




For instance, I am slinging 194 grain bullet at 1000 FPS. If I have my strike Eagle zeroed at 100 yards, I am slowly climbing to a height of 3 inches at 60 yards then it starts coming back down to hit the zero at 100 yards. After that, looking at the reticle above, the lines below the zero crosshair represent the 120, 140, 165, and 200 yards.

Sub sonic's fly like a rainbow. If you won't be shooting subs, it might be a non-issue.
35chililights
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Also, I should add that those yard markers are only with the scope at 6X. Since it is not a first focal plane scope, adjusting the magnification changes the representation.
Mr. Dubi
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How crisp is your Strikeeagle on 6x? Mine never seems to get good, crisp focus, especially beyond 25 yards. I got it used and am thinking about sending it back to Vortex.

OP: Burris MTAC 1-4 is size, weight and price comparable to the Strikeeagle, but crisper optics in my opinion.
35chililights
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Surprisingly crisp. I do have to move the front focal ring more than I'd like between 1 and 6 to get it crisp, and as such, I have removed the flip caps and leave them in the safe. I figure that's what I have to put up with buying a 1-6x for 320 bucks. While I want to, I can't yet justify the VCOG. Maybe someday.

It's possible you got a dud. Take vortex up on their warranty. See if it improves.
AnScAggie
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Thank you very much for the advice. I'll admit I would not have thought of the need for the bdc with the subsonic loads, even though it makes perfect sense. I am now leaning towards the Nikon P-300 2x7 scope.
35chililights
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Yea. Red dots work great for the flatter shooting .223/5.56, but leave a bit to be desired with 'mortar' rounds like a heavy 300blk round.

The other round I typically shoot is the 110 grain barnes black tipped bullet. it fires at 2350 fps. If I have the strike eagle zeroed at 100 yards for that round, it rises until it it hits the zero line at 100 and then relatively slowly drops (compared to 223). The lines under the zero line then become 195, 275, 350, and 430 yards. Still dropping, but not nearly like the subsonic round.

Here is a decent little calculator: http://apps.vortexoptics.com/lrbc/#

35chililights
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of course this guy is talking about the .223/5.56 round, but the philosophy is the same.
I think he explains it well. you basically have to find out what works for you.


35chililights
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I think the nikon scope would be a good choice, btw.
Secolobo
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I have the weaver v3 on mine. Small, light, and a true one power you can use like a sight with both eyes open for hogs. Also shot two deer with it last year. Good reviews, warranty and price.
bigfoot10s
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35chililights said:

of course this guy is talking about the .223/5.56 round, but the philosophy is the same.
I think he explains it well. you basically have to find out what works for you.





That's a really interesting video. So would it be ridiculous to zero a 308 rifle at 300 yards?
TheEyeGuy
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Low power optics that don't break the bank. Here are my favorites:

Vortex PST 1-4x: Price around $500 and of the ones listed here, I think it has the clearest glass of this group, though the Rudolph may be as good or slightly better. I'll put them side by side tomorrow. Lighted reticle that is great for quick acquisition. And it's Vortex so stupid awesome warranty. Highest precision reticle of the group.

Rudolph 1-4x: Price around $500. Just got these in and love them. Japanese glass so very clear. Cool thing about this one? FRONT FOCAL PLANE! Lighted reticle as well and fairly simple. More of a hunting reticle than the the Vortex scopes.

Burris MTAC 1-4x: Often overlooked scope. Very clear glass, lighted reticle and the most intuitive BDC of the group. It is not a precise optic but but is very good for what it does. Love this unit and there's a package that comes with a PEPR mount and a Fast Fire red dot that looks cool as hell.

Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6x: $330ish. Of these, the lowest in optical clarity but it has the highest power range. It's a great unit as the reticle is very useful if you learn it. I love these scopes.
35chililights
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Depends. What type of ammo are you using? Bullet grain size? Muzzle velocity?

I'll plug it into the calculator if you know those things.
dodger02
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AgBass referred to the P-308. I have one on my AR-10 and it's just fine for my needs. I considered a higher end scope, but couldn't bring myself to spending up to $1k on glass that didn't sit on my primary rifle. Not yet, at least.
ZooGuy
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dodger02 said:

AgBass referred to the P-308. I have one on my AR-10 and it's just fine for my needs. I considered a higher end scope, but couldn't bring myself to spending up to $1k on glass that didn't sit on my primary rifle. Not yet, at least.
Yes, no way I can spend $1K on glass. I'll spend about that on the rifle once I sell some other items to fund that. I'll only have a couple hundred left for glass once I sell some things.
AgBass01
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Yea, I'm in the process of converting from 556 to 300. I have an AR that I built years ago, have an EOTECH on it but I'm going through the refund policy and getting $500 back. That's the amount of money I'll have to get an upper and scope so I'll be going with the Nikon P-300.
Courtesy Flush
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I am having a AR in a .308 caliber built for me right now and will go with one of these https://www.amazon.com/Pulsar-PL76312-N750-Digisight-Riflescope/dp/B00BT9LPS2
dr_boogs
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Eye guy - thanks for that list, was looking at the pst and strike eagle for a 300 blk build, I have a strike eagle on my .223 Wylde. Are the reticles and range drops similar between the PST and strike eagle? I like the strike eagle but if the image quality is better/more clarity on the PST, it might be just the ticket for a 300 build.
TheEyeGuy
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PST is a true precision MOA (or MRAD if you can find one but I think those were discontinued) reticle whereas the Strike Eagle is more of a combat style quick finding reticle. Both have their advantages.
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