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Simmons Custom Boats and Shallow Sport Boats

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gwellis
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Anyone else watching this deal? Apparently Eric Simmons father sold SCB to Shallow Sport Boats without his knowledge/blessing? All over 2cool and each boat makers facebook pages.




Sounds like Mr. Simmons (father, not Eric) was shopping the business for awhile and Shallow Sport Bought them out. Should be good for Shallow Sport.

Lots more to the story that hasn't been told, but Eric appears to be pissed off at Dad for selling him out.








FIDO*98*
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Thought that was going to be an April fools joke at first. Lamborghini sold out to Audi.......I'd still take a Lambo and it doesn't seem to have hurt the brand. It will be interesting to see if Shallow Sport keeps the SCB label or re-brands the hulls. I'd have thought SS would have the pockets to develop their own hull if they were just looking for a high end fast shallow boat.
Ragoo
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SS is owned by Ags.
Dirty-8-thirty Ag
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Both are great boats. Surely the son will be able to stay on as a consultant with the buyout.
DV04
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SS are good people.
Finn Maccumhail
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Lots of wailing and gnashing of teeth by the SCB fanboys over on 2cool. I guess the flat-bill hat dewshers will have to find another boat to run 70mph across a 4" deep flat.

Lots of stories out there but it really sounds like Eric Simmons' dad was the majority stakeholder and the outfit was constantly losing money and he wanted out so he negotiated a sale to SS.
rao11010
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According to SS facebook page, Eric's dad will release a statement on the transaction sometime today. Should be interesting.
rao11010
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http://2coolfishing.com/ttmbforum/showthread.php?t=1866906

This is a message form John Simmons, previous owner of Simmons Custom Boats LLC dba SCB:

My name is John Simmons, previous 100% owner of Simmons Custom Boats. I had intended to stay out of the social media assertions regarding the recent sale of my company, Simmons Custom Boats to Shallow Sport Boats. However, as the discussions progressed I have become very disturbed that the roles of Wes, Kyra and Shallow Sport Boats are being grossly mischaracterized and felt I needed to set the record straight in their behalf.

SCB was founded in 2002 and was the inspiration of Eric Simmons, my son. Eric is the creative genius behind SCB. In 2006, SCB encountered a financial crisis and I was asked to help. I agreed to purchase the molds that were by then owned by a 3rd party. The result was my 100% ownership in a new entity which came to be SCB. Eric agreed and I retained him as the production / operational manager of SCB. It was at that time I pledge personal assets to secure a line of credit from a lending institution to cover the cash flow needs of the business.

The decision to sell my company was based on several issues. Primarily, SCB has had and was continuing to have huge losses accrue which I was no longer willing to fund. Family health issues prevented me from assuming day to day management oversight. There were other major contributing issues not mentioned.

There had been discussions going back three years with the SCB management team indicating my urgent desire to sell the company. I ask them to seek out potential investor groups or individuals to partner with to buy me out. By late 2013 we had a group with whom we had reached a verbal agreement which would retain the management team with an ownership position for them. However, before the deal could be formalized the management team rejected the deal and our potential buyers withdrew their offer to purchase.

After another year and a half of more losses and periodic suggestions to continue their search, I initiated a search on my own.

During this time SCB came under scrutiny by the TCEQ for emissions issues. The remedy would require $100,000 in equipment and moving the glass shop to a much more expensive site. We had to be in compliance with TCEQ by March 31, 2016. It would have been foolish to take on more debt with the company's financial history. I had to find a buyer by the deadline or face shut down. No other investors were brought to me.

My search for a buyer eventually led to Shallow Sport Boats. In big deals like this it is typical for all parties to be bound by nondisclosure agreements even to the existence of the deal. One deal had gotten away; I had to be sure that wouldn't happen again. We closed on Wednesday March 30. One day before the TCEQ compliance deadline which meant that SCB was one day away from having to shut down. The sale will assure that all SCB liabilities will be paid out of the proceeds. The balance will come nowhere close to offsetting the total investment put in.

What I have tried to make clear here is that there was no intent by the buyer or the seller to do damage to or hurt anyone. Shallow Sport Boats simply saw this as an opportunity to grow their company. I saw it as a better financial option than shutting down where at least the brand will live on. This was a difficult business deal in which Wes and Kyra and Shallow Sport Boats had to adapt to the challenging circumstances presented to them and I will say they did so with complete professionalism and integrity.

gwellis
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Glad that John released his statement. Shallow Sport Boats deserved better than the BS that was coming from SCB owners and Eric's family.
Gil '91
AggieGunslinger
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The hate for SS was crazy. People acted like they stole something from SCB.
mts6175
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Glad to see that statement, it was pretty obvious that's what went down when you read between the lines of what was out there.
TheGroupGuy
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How the hell do you lose money on a $90,000 boat?
SCB when you absolutely positively need to throw a 20 foot rooster tail while burning a flat.
Potlicker
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The SCB boats are pretty damn sweet..... Perfect for tournament fishing...
sunchaser
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quote:
How the hell do you lose money on a $90,000 boat?

Have expenditures of $100,000 between boat sales.....
TheGroupGuy
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How bad at business do you need to be to lose money on a product that is custom expensive and has been in back order for 6 mi to a year?
Tournaments are the bane of saltwater fishing.
It's a rhetorical question sunchaser answers are extraneous
Michael Shumard
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its hard for me to hate on an scb because i would love to drive one, once. However, I am perfectly happy with my Majek RFL - i am no tournament angler and appreciate its shallow water capabilities and fuel economy!

Mike
ccolley68
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quote:
How bad at business do you need to be to lose money on a product that is custom expensive and has been in back order for 6 mi to a year?
Tournaments are the bane of saltwater fishing.
It's a rhetorical question sunchaser answers are extraneous
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Maybe they are back ordered, not because the demand is so high, but because they haven't paid their vendors, and until they could somehow generate or come up with the cash flow, no supplier would provide them with raw materials to build a new boat. Sounds like they were in really bad shape financially.

Just because a boat costs $90,000 to buy, doesn't mean they were making a killing. I am no expert, and not terribly familiar with SCB other than knowing they are fast, and I wouldn't turn one away if given to me, but it seems they were a smaller outfit, so raw materials were probably higher than say Shallow Sport for similar products due to buying power. And if they were in as bad shape financially, and potentially struggling to pay those suppliers, those guys are certainly not going to give them any price breaks, or delivery time expediting.
lazuras_dc
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Looks like Full Throttle Boat Works hired Eric and his staff in the mean time till they figure something out. No doubt there will be boat production in the future by Eric again.
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