Looking to get a 4-16x scope for a 6.5 creed

Cabelas has the Vortex Viper 4-16x44 for $399- Cabelas

Or should i get the Vortex Crossfire II 4-16x50 for $280? Crossfire

Would there by a big difference between the 44 vs the 50?

I plan on hunting and target shooting out to 500 or 600 yards.

I'd recommend nothing less than 50 for those distances

and Viper better than crossfire FWIW

oh and at the price of the viper at cabelas you can pick up a VIPER HS 6-24x50 at SWFA ($399) which would be very nice for long range shooting (just picked one up myself)

also some good deals at euro optic and the eye guy is now a Vortex retailer....

I think the Viper is going to have appreciable better optics.

Also check out cameralandny.com for good deals on Vortex optics.

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Also check out cameralandny.com for good deals on Vortex optics.

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+1 to this. Very competitive prices. They usually have some demos/floor models as well

And +1 to the viper or viper hs line with a 50mm

Paging TheEyeGuy

Very interested in this thread.

Likely about to pick up a new bolt '06 and even though I love my Nikon Monarch and its price point, I do want to branch out and try another scope brand to compare to. i know vortex is viewed very highly by this board.

I can always beat cabelas in price for vortex. I can generally put you into the 50 for the same price or at least close to it, with the same level of scope. Difference between the crossfire and the viper are not tiny. The viper or better are the way to go for the money.

I upgraded from a prostaff to a viper because I liked their reticule options better.

Anything less than Swarovski and you might as well toss your money in the trash can. Just my $0.02.

I've got a like new Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50 scope I'll let go. I was contemplating something a little lower in magnification anyway for my .223. I've got the box, manuals, shims, etc. (everything that came with the scope.)

Located in Houston (The Woodlands).

Let me know if interested.

RightWing, if OP isn't interested, I might be. Just lucked into a Weatherby 7mm and might need a scope for it. My uncle is clearing out his safe and giving me some guns including this one. He can't remember if he has a scope on it or not. What would you sell it for? OP has first rights but I'm interested.

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Anything less than Swarovski and you might as well toss your money in the trash can. Just my $0.02.

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Anything less than Swarovski and you might as well toss your money in the trash can. Just my $0.02.

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HouseDivided,

Honestly, I haven't much thought about price as I haven't been convinced I'd sell it. I'd like to move down to the 2.5-10x44 scope which is selling for $599 on OpticsPlanet. The scope I'm selling is selling for $675 on OpticsPlanet; hence, I'd want to get as close as I can to the $599 price. Because it is used, I'd knock off a few bucks and let it go for $585. The rifle on which the scope is mounted has been fired no more than twice with about 250 rounds total through the gun (and using the scope).

Not sure if that is a fair price or not, but at this point, I'm not willing to go any lower. If that is too high for you, I understand. No worries. Like I wrote earlier, I have the box and everything that came with it as well. I also have the Butler Creek flip up covers for both the eye piece and objective lens. The scope has no scratches and is in pristine condition.

You can contact me at roonyroo04 at yahoo dot com if you'd like to discuss further.

Crossfire and Viper are the exact same glass...however, the Viper is a much better scope with 50 mm lense and 30 mm tube. Better eye relief in the Viper no matter what the "specs" say. I have the following scopes so I speak from first hand experience.
Crossfire 2, 4-16x42
Viper HS 4-16 50
Viper PST SFP 1-4
Viper PST SFP 6-24x50

I would recommend the Viper HS or PST in 6-24x50 for 600 yards. I shoot those distances so again speak from first hand experience. 4-16 is fine out to about 450 yards. Beyond that I like 24x. These are my preferences. I know others are probably fine shooting 1000 yards with a fixed 10x scope...more power to you...

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Anything less than Swarovski and you might as well toss your money in the trash can. Just my $0.02.

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I bet you spent $7000 for your rig and can't hit targets past 200 yards.

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Anything less than Swarovski and you might as well toss your money in the trash can. Just my $0.02.

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I bet you spent $7000 for your rig and can't hit targets past 200 yards.

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Yep, that's me. I'm not comfortable out past 200. Just don't think I can make an ethically sound shot past that distance. I shoot a .338 Lapua too.

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Crossfire and Viper are the exact same glass...however, the Viper is a much better scope with 50 mm lense and 30 mm tube. Better eye relief in the Viper no matter what the "specs" say.

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You're on the right track but not quite hitting the mark here. Crossfire is made in China vs the Viper (and I think Diamondback) being made in Japan. Coatings on the viper line are better (which is where you get the difference in levels of scope "glass). Some Vipers have a 1" tube and some Crossfires have a 50mm objective. Vipers generally have more "options," as well.

This is not a knock on the Crossfire line. For the money, they are a good product and I use one myself. I have the Crossfire II 3-9x40 with the V-bright (illuminated reticle) on my 17 hmr. Be doing a range report of the HMR sometime this coming week. It was an xmas present from my parents.

The EyeGuy, could you give me some pricing for a Viper 2.5-10x44 PST? Email is above in post. Thanks!

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The EyeGuy, could you give me some pricing for a Viper 2.5-10x44 PST? Email is above in post. Thanks!

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Eyeguy, opinion on that scope vs the FFP/32mm version?

I've yet to do the Pepsi challenge on the glass, and I've heard mixed reviews on the 44 mm SFP (background is I own 3 PST's, just not these two)

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Crossfire and Viper are the exact same glass...however, the Viper is a much better scope with 50 mm lense and 30 mm tube. Better eye relief in the Viper no matter what the "specs" say.

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You're on the right track but not quite hitting the mark here. Crossfire is made in China vs the Viper (and I think Diamondback) being made in Japan. Coatings on the viper line are better (which is where you get the difference in levels of scope "glass). Some Vipers have a 1" tube and some Crossfires have a 50mm objective. Vipers generally have more "options," as well.

This is not a knock on the Crossfire line. For the money, they are a good product and I use one myself. I have the Crossfire II 3-9x40 with the V-bright (illuminated reticle) on my 17 hmr. Be doing a range report of the HMR sometime this coming week. It was an xmas present from my parents.

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Sorry...Eye guy you are correct. I mispoke. I meant Diamondback....not Crossfire. I have the Diamondback scope.

Curious, what have you heard negative about the SFP model? I've gotten to handle it and try it out and I didn't see anything that popped out to me as being a negative. That being said, I didn't use it longterm myself, just got to do a quick test drive at the range.

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Crossfire and Viper are the exact same glass...however, the Viper is a much better scope with 50 mm lense and 30 mm tube. Better eye relief in the Viper no matter what the "specs" say.

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You're on the right track but not quite hitting the mark here. Crossfire is made in China vs the Viper (and I think Diamondback) being made in Japan. Coatings on the viper line are better (which is where you get the difference in levels of scope "glass). Some Vipers have a 1" tube and some Crossfires have a 50mm objective. Vipers generally have more "options," as well.

This is not a knock on the Crossfire line. For the money, they are a good product and I use one myself. I have the Crossfire II 3-9x40 with the V-bright (illuminated reticle) on my 17 hmr. Be doing a range report of the HMR sometime this coming week. It was an xmas present from my parents.

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Sorry...Eye guy you are correct. I mispoke. I meant Diamondback....not Crossfire. I have the Diamondback scope.

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Yeah, Vortex is a great company but they have some random differences between their product lines. Makes it really confusing at times, even for me.

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Curious, what have you heard negative about the SFP model? I've gotten to handle it and try it out and I didn't see anything that popped out to me as being a negative. That being said, I didn't use it longterm myself, just got to do a quick test drive at the range.

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Just that the glass is sub par compared to the rest of the PST line. I've read the same about my 4-16x50 FFP, and while it is a little darker than my 6-24x50 FFP, the difference is barely discernable to me.

Keep in mind my only souces on this are Internet message boards, which is why I am asking, and for this gun being a hunting gun, I am leaning towards an SFP scope.

I've heard the same about that scope, albeit also only from the internet.

Will send an email shortly. Definitely interested in possibly buying a vortex.

I own the PST 6-24x50 SFP. I have in my possession the PST 6-24x50 FFP that I am going to mount for my BIL. I will take a gander tomorrow and see if I notice a difference

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I own the PST 6-24x50 SFP. I have in my possession the PST 6-24x50 FFP that I am going to mount for my BIL. I will take a gander tomorrow and see if I notice a difference

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well, those two should be the same glass, but it would be interesting if they were any different.

Eyeguy...what is your email? I would like to email you and get some pricing.

Eyeguytex@gmail.com

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The EyeGuy, could you give me some pricing for a Viper 2.5-10x44 PST? Email is above in post. Thanks!

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Eyeguy, opinion on that scope vs the FFP/32mm version?

I've yet to do the Pepsi challenge on the glass, and I've heard mixed reviews on the 44 mm SFP (background is I own 3 PST's, just not these two)

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