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WTF are these? (hole in the ground edition)

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rilloaggie
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Was working SE of Liberty, TX today and saw these things by the hundreds. That is a 8x12 square for reference. The field was clear except for grass and there were even more numerous smaller holes that were level with the ground. Mammals, bugs, Chupacabras? WTF are these?(dikfer protected!)





rwv2055
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Mudbugs!
Agustus Caesar
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Isect
OnlyForNow
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Seriously...com? This your first time in SE Texas?
12f Mane
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Likely Procambarus fodiens or houstonensis
EconAg05
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Sasquatch flesh light
rilloaggie
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I grew up in the panhandle and hadn't eaten a crawfish until I made it to college! Surprising to see that they can make something that big, some were pushing 18 inches above ground. Makes sense now, we ran into a high water table in that area that made it hell to build on,
Agustus Caesar
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Sasquatch flesh light
Thr33s
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Mudbugs!
CrossBowAg99
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We call them crawdads or crawdeds in SE Texas.
ursusguy
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crawdads.....and I wish dinner.
water turkey
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We used to fish them out of those with bacon on a string.
BurrOak
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Sasquatch flesh light




http://forums.texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?page=1&forum_id=34&topic_id=2452813&nomobile=1

[This message has been edited by BurrOak (edited 4/3/2014 8:30a).]
ccard257
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Econag!
Old Sarge
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I grew up in the Northcrest subdivision in Victoria Texas. From the time I was a 3 year old in '68 to about circa '82 we had those pop up in our ditches for weeks after every big rain.

Of course if was crawdads.

It amazed us, that after weeks/months of no major rain that after a big thunderstorm that the ditches were full of crawdads.

The only thing I can think of that made them stop coming out was that the water table had dropped so much after so many water wells had been drilled, or that DDT had wiped them out.

We ate them when we caught them, sometimes, if we had enough.

Before either of the possible demise scenarios played out, it was amazing with the crawdads. A ditch seemingly void of anything but St. Augustine for weeks/months became a river teeming with crawdads overnight, ready to pinch your toes wading around in the fray.

For those young folks on this board, yes, or parents let us play "in the ditch" full of water. For hours, until it ran off. We made 2x4 board boats to send through the culverts, and the early version of wake boards to ride. We even incorporated an old Honda mini-trail 70 to pull attempted "skiers" through the shallow waters infested with the pinching vermin known as crawdads.

Ditchwater, DDT, and crawdads. And we lived.

And my wife does not understand why I laugh at her swiping down the countertops every night with Clorox wipes.
MouthBQ98
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Ditto. We grew up in what was once an isolated neighborhood surrounded by pastureland in Cypress. When it would rain good, the crawfish would come from the swampy field separated from our neighborhood by a big ditch and fill up that ditch and all the ditches flowing into it. We became experts at plucking the big ones out of the water by hand without getting the everliving crap pinched out of us. More than a few times one would land a pincer home and we'd sling the crawdad off only to have the disembodied pincher still stuck on our hand. We'd make them battle eachother, and such. We would also get a big ass fine mesh dip net and drag it up and down the ditch when the water had been up in it a while and see how many different species we could catch, or all the different sizes of crawfish you could catch. You'd even catch females with eggs or even teeny tiny baby crawfish in their tails. Sometimes we'd even catch baby turtles and fish, and I mean literally just hatched TINY baby turtles, really cool stuff for a little kid...

MouthBQ98
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We also used to get baseball bats and sticks, and spend hours in a field full of big built up crawfish mounds and systematically destroy them for hours.

We also dug up a few crawdads at the bottom of their mounds, and damn, they can dig pretty deep if they need to.
rather be fishing
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Congrats on the wetland.
hellapark
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A ditch seemingly void of anything but St. Augustine for weeks/months became a river teeming with crawdads overnight, ready to pinch your toes wading around in the fray.

Same here, I've always been amazed by that as well except I grew up in Hville a few miles up the road from Victoria. Dad is from Vic though.
rilloaggie
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This would also explain the dry irrigation ditch in the middle of the public dove hunting place off of 21 west of Bryan that was full of dead crawfish 2 dove seasons ago. Had to be a quarter mile from the nearest source of regular water and had my dry land, panhandling brain all sorts of confused!
OnlyForNow
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I've got a good friend from Tulia...

you panhandle boys are some funny guys.

He doesn't like to duck hunt in creek-bottom at my parents house due to the thickness of the woods, and the fact that, in his words, "someone can just creep up on ya without ya knowing." When we walk down there before day light.
cledus6150
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High water table and crawfish burrows are some indicators of hydrology depending on vegetation and soil you could very possibly be building on a wetland.
OnlyForNow
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Crawfish burrows are only a secondary hydrology indicator... Galveston District USACE.... sigh.

Judging by vegetation (which would most likely get thrown out due to the Fac-Neutral Test) you might be ok.

Want to take a sharpshooter and dig 15-16 inches down and take a picture of the soil? Break it apart so we're not looking at the cut edge.
ursusguy
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Get up in North Texas, and we have some crawdads that are an upland prairie specialist.
rilloaggie
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OFN- your friend sounds like a smart man! Nothing can sneak up on you in that
part of the world. It bugged me when I got to A&M that I couldn't see storms blowing in from the west. They'd just happen with no fair warning since I couldn't see past the trees!

Cledus- the customer had a survey and civil firm look at the site. We handled the geotechnical reports and engineered them a stout slab to deal with the soils. The rain they've had there hasn't helped, took them 4 inspections to get it dry enough and get the layout right!
rilloaggie
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Btw "high water table" is relative to what I'm used to seeing. We bore to 20' and rarely hit it at all.
CanyonAg77
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Give the OP a break, he's probably too young to remember the wet years in the Panhandle, when crawdads were plentiful.

The farm where I grew up is just off of Callahan Draw, which feeds into Running Water Draw, which feeds into White River, which runs into the Salt Fork of the Brazos, and finally the Brazos.

So you can tell, we're pretty far upstream. In fact, the draw has probably only had enough water to flow less than 10 times in the last 100 years. But in the 60s when rainfall was higher, and irrigation pumping more abundant, the playa lakes up and down the draw had water year round. And they had crawdads. Like those above, we used to catch them by bending a nail, putting bacon on it, and getting them to grab it with their claws. Some guys came by once and caught a 30 gallon drum full of the things. They said they were going to eat them, I couldn't believe it.

The most annoying thing about the little boogers was their instinct to go upstream. We leased a farm on the draw one year. When we would furrow irrigate into the draw, those suckers would migrate back up the row, all the way to the irrigation ditch. Then they would crawl into the siphon tubes and plug them, so you'd have tubes stop and rows not watered. When they made it through the tubes, they'd burrow into the irrigation ditch and weaken it, sometimes causing breaks in the ditch.

With the marginal land going into CRP, especially that land sloping into playas, lower rainfall, and less and more efficient irrigation, few playas have water year round anymore. I've seen only a few crawdad chimneys in the last 4-5 years. They're about gone from this part of the world.
cledus6150
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The high water table is a primary indicator and the crayfish burrows are secondary indicators up here in the Great Plains Region as they are the same in the Galveston District.

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javajaws
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I'm going with "Redneck Fleshlight noodling hole" for $100 Alex...

Go ahead - try to get that image out of your head!

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Bird Poo
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Nothing like clod wars. Spent hours throwing crawded clods at each other, and walking up and down ditches with a 5 gallon bucket ready to scoop them up.

After Hurricane Alicia we had thousands on my driveway due to all the rain and low pressure. It's too bad my parents didn't know about crawfish boils back then. We did have big crab boils though.
rilloaggie
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We had clod wars in Amarillo too...took a water hose to make it happen but beggars can't be choosers!

I'll never forget running from my cousin after nailing him with one, mouth agape like some slack-jawed dummy, and catching a fast ball of mud straight to the back of my throat. Thought I was gonna choke to death on that mud ball!
gsp_hunt
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A small piece of bacon tied to a string to catch them. They grab on, you pull them out.

Probably a hydric soil.

[This message has been edited by gsp_hunt (edited 4/3/2014 10:59a).]
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