Appears to be many choices out there, hopefully I can get some feedback from the fine folks on the OB.

Quick Detach vs. Threaded, opinions?
Any particular name brands people enjoy, I have looked at the AAC & Surefire?

It will be going on a .300 Blackout, SBR or no SBR? Looking at 8" barrel. Any one have feedback on this setup?

Thanks in advance

QD is generally better than threaded, mostly because threads are somewhat fragile- screw up the threads and it is time consuming and expensive to repair. Screw up a QD, and it sucks, but you can fix it easily and relatively cheaply. Another huge advantage is being able to use the same can on different barrels- whereas with threaded, you would either need separate cans or have to get bushings made.

Each manufacturer has their own type of QD system, so keep that in mind (meaning typically. Surefire can won't fit on an AAC adapter, etc.).

Brands are like firearms- stick to name brands with good service and reputations and you will be fine.

As far as an 8" .300 barrel, that seems short as hell, but i don't know much about that round at all.

I just ordered a Surefire 7.62 SOCOM Mini. Same size as the 5.56 SOCOM, but I'll be able to use it on all of my 5.56 and 7.62 rifles, as long as they have a Surefire brake or flash suppressor on them. Expensive, but I'd rather have a all-in-one than have to juggle multiple cans and give teh BATF and extra $200.

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Quick detach if you're planning on taking it on and off a lot. The quick detach can have a larger point of impact shift when changing between suppressed and not but some of the newer quick detach systems have gotten better about this. Another plus to the quick detach is if the attachment is like a muzzle brake with baffles they can take most of the erosion from the muzzle blast instead of the first few baffles of your suppressor. It's a lot cheaper and easier to replace the muzzle brake than get your suppressor repaired. Although some types of suppressors have easy to replace baffles.

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It will be going on a .300 Blackout, SBR or no SBR? Looking at 8" barrel. Any one have feedback on this setup?

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If you're mainly planning on shooting subsonic rounds I'd go for SBR. You won't get any benefit from going to a longer barrel. If you want to shoot full power loads then the longer barrel will help you get some more velocity out of it.

As for brands there are a ton. Figure out what features you want first and what you want to spend then go from there. Weight, size, noise reduction, rapid fire ability, point of impact shift, quick detach, type of muzzle attachment, cost, ability to clean, figure out what is most important to you.

First thing, they are called silencers

I don't have the time or money right now, but I plan to build an SBR in .300blk later down the road. I will use a Noveske 8" upper and shoot it suppressed with subsonics full time.

Potentially stupid question:

How effective would a .308 can be on a 5.56 rifle?

AGLaw06 - It's VERY effective, I have a .308 can that I run on my AR and it makes a world of difference with reducing the muzzle blast and has less recoil. It may not be as effective as a dedicated 5.56 can (cause I don't have one yet to compare it to), but it makes a helluva difference when shooting it with the can on.

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I just ordered a Surefire 7.62 SOCOM Mini. Same size as the 5.56 SOCOM, but I'll be able to use it on all of my 5.56 and 7.62 rifles, as long as they have a Surefire brake or flash suppressor on them. Expensive, but I'd rather have a all-in-one than have to juggle multiple cans and give teh BATF and extra $200.

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Where did you order from? I was looking for the regular 762-rc.

He's out of Amarillo, but has a storefront in Dallas.

http://www.silencedamerica.com/products/?shop_by=brand&q=surefire

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Negative. Proper nomenclature is "suppressor".

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I don't have the time or money right now, but I plan to build an SBR in .300blk later down the road. I will use a Noveske 8" upper and shoot it suppressed with subsonics full time.

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This will be your new favorite AR

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Negative. Proper nomenclature is "suppressor".

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I think someone forgot to turn on their sarcasm detector this morning...

schmellba99 - do you still have that optic you offered up for sale the other day? I might be interested in it

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I don't have the time or money right now, but I plan to build an SBR in .300blk later down the road. I will use a Noveske 8" upper and shoot it suppressed with subsonics full time.

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This will be your new favorite AR

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That's what I'm hoping.

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I think someone forgot to turn on their sarcasm detector this morning...

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Highly probable. That and it sometimes doesn't translate well over a message board.

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schmellba99 - do you still have that optic you offered up for sale the other day? I might be interested in it

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Yep. You want it, it's yours. $80 + shipping.

Best thing about suppressors is your neighbors will start to look at you like you are Kevin Kline in A Fish Called Wanda.

Cool - let me take another look at it online tonight and I'll get back to you. I'm in Houston so we could probably just do a FTF sale and save the shipping if that's OK with you.

Email is username at gmail

Should be. I'll shoot you an email - I don't have any pics of it on this computer. The ones I've posted are stock pics I found on websites. but overall, it looks near brand new and functions fine. It's actually a solid little red dot.

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check out shark suppressors in dallas. They are highly thought off by people that have bought them.

http://www.sharksuppressors.com/Catalog.aspx

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I won't tell you what to by or what not to buy, but I'll tell you what I'm doing and why. Then you a can weigh the options for yourself.

I have a Daniel Defense M4 V5. I'm registering my DD lower with my trust as an SBR lower. Also had a Geissele SSA put in, but that's besides the point.

I decided to go this route because I didn't want to spend the money on a new complete lower. It's pretty simple really.



I've purchased a Seekin's Precision billet upper, an 8" Rock Creek (made by Seekin's) .300 Blackout stainless steel barrel with 5R rifling and a 5/8x24 thread at the muzzle. Also on this upper I've put a Seekin's free float hand guard with a single rail in the 12 o'clock position.

I decided on an SBR because I already have a carbine length AR upper in 5.56. The .300 Blackout is optimized for a shorter barrel and shorter gas system as well. On top of all that, I wanted this rifle for use in executive protection, something I do on occasion, and an SBR is easier to conceal under a coat and easier to get in and out of a car with. Also, it's not 20' long when you add a suppressor to the end of it. With an SBR you can also purchase a good, heavy duty suppressor and not worry too much about weight. The suppressor will be basically right over your support hand when shooting, not dangling out on the end of a 16" barrel. Because of this, it balances well and it's quite easy to manhandle and whip from target to target. You also have the benefit of working with a nice heavy duty can, which usually provides better quality.



I've purchased a proprietary suppressor from my dealer. It's their own suppressor with a break integrated into the baffle stack. It is a direct thread on can. No quick detach.

I chose a thread on can based on my dealers recommendation. He said if the rifle is going to be primarily run with the suppressor, the thread on is the best way to go. I don't intend on running my rifle sans suppressor very often so that was definitely the route I'm gonna take. The dealer also said that QD mounts can also be primary reasons for baffle strikes. The slightest bit of looseness or play in the barrel:mount relationship, or mount:suppressor relationship, and you're gonna start getting baffle strikes.


That's my reasoning. Hope it helps!

Sounds like your dealer is trying to sell thread-on cans...

The biggest issue with thread on cans is that you have a very good chance of screwing them up by cross threading them...you only have to make a mistake once, and you are done. Well made QD cans dont cause POI shift and they also are much less likely to "back-off" than the thread on can due to the locking mechanism that is used on any QD can. Thread-ons unscrew when you are shooting them and its common practice to check them as you are shooting.

So, you just have one rifle you will use the thread-on can on and you wont be switching it to other guns...so cross threading is not a big concern, right? Good. Now tell me how often you are going to clean that rifle...and how?

I suppose about every other time I go shoot or so. Since I don't shoot much that'll maybe be 4-5 times a year.

I'm not sure what the big deal is about cross threading. I don't forsee a circumstance where I'll need to be putting the suppressor on or taking it off in a hurry.

What might that situation be? I simply can't imagine.

If one takes his time and puts his firearm together properly, this is a non issue.

The reason they starting making QD systems is because of cheap manufacturing materials and another way to sell you stuff. If it is a dedicated sub build then get a dedicated can and screw it on. If you are worried about coming loose buy a strap wrench and have a smith set you up with a pair of witness marks (or a silver sharpie).

If you are competent enough to have thought this out you are capable of screwing on a suppressor without cross threading it.

Qd is darn convenient for ARs as you don't have to worry about taking thread protectors on and off, or flash hiders, as you would with a thread on can.

There are certainly benefits to QD systems. I just don't appear to benefit from any of them. Your mileage may vary.

I'm starting the process of purchasing a 7.62 AAC with a QD mount. Will primarily be used on my AR I run night vision on.

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There are certainly benefits to QD systems. I just don't appear to benefit from any of them. Your mileage may vary.

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Absolutely, it's awesome we have so many options. Class 3 is a whole 'nother level of fun...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifnuw7BjDMI

After talking to Houston Armory this week I am on the list to get the 16" version of this rifle. The only difference is that the 16" will have the baffle stack permanently attached to the barrel so it is a 1 tax stamp gun. I have a buddy who shoots with these guys all the time who told me they were getting sub moa groups with the 12" version and subsonics.

Huey- I've held and fired one of those (12") and they're absolutely impressive. On Target Ammo is currently working on a new subsonic load for HA that uses a new powder. It drops the db level by 6 points over our old recipe. :-)

Enjoy man. That's a screaming rifle. Did you go billet or forged?

Is the process create trust, fill out necessary forms, pay for tax stamp, then purchase suppressor?

Create trust, pay for suppressor and fill out forms with $200 for tax stamp at same time, wait patiently for tax stamp to come in the mail, then go pick up the suppressor.

Just ordered a 6.8 upper this week from Palmetto State Armory. Took advantage of the Cyber Monday deal and hoping to finish out my stripped lower I bought when Obama was elected in 2008. Looking forward to finishing it out in the next few months.

I know QD systems have their place just have never seen the benefits. Just about every ar comes threaded so why add the cost of the QD.

If it were me I would go with one of the cheaper Stainless cans and make it dedicated to this rifle. You aren't looking for a .25" group so save the money and put it towards another can.