Looking to put pens up around the feeders this year. I know that hog panels will work but they also have hogwire that comes in rolls. Will this be as effective or can the hogs dig under/tear it up?

(asking cause i don't have to borrow a trailer to get hogwire)

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I say hog panels - mo 'spensive, mo strongah, mo bettah.

Its up to you, If you use panels, you'll most likely need at least 3 t-post or regular post. With hog wire you will need more post closer spaced to achieve the same strength.

Go with panels. Hogs will get through a wire fence. We put up panels and have kept the hogs in check so far. Lots of pictures of the pigs circling outside of the pens.

If you don't get that wire tight and it sags, them there hogs will be going over your fence in no time.

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I didnt know mountain lions ate protein feed....I'll have to try that

We use panels here at work. No t-posts.. panels are custom and have hinges that fit together. As long as we reinforce them with heavy gauge wire, hogs haven't broken through. Got 16 of the suckers a couple of weeks ago. Hopefully, we get the last 6-8 from that group tomorrow.

I know the panels are better, But i have a huge amount of T posts and no trailer. Im not worried about them going over the top. Im worried about them going under or tearing through.

We had all the panels in the back of our work truck. Course, it had an 8 foot bed. But, even with the tailgate down, they hung over a little. Didn't use a trailer and did have to drive over some rough areas requiring 4x4.

I've got a crewcab with a 5'8" bed. With the tailgate down i'll still have over 8' hanging out.

Do yall bury the panels partially? If so, they will only be 30 inches or so high. In your experiences is that a problem?

Guys, I know that the panels work. My question is will this stuff http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/grd/3077507779.html . If it will, i can make my life a whole lot easier.

If a hog farted, it would blow that chicken wire over. No way that is going to keep a 150 lb hog away from a feeder unless you put a post every 2 feet. Hog panels aren't cheap, but if you want to do it right, that's the way to go.

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150 lb hog, much less a 3-400 lb hog.

IMHO, seeing what the hogs did to our heavy gauge trap (obviously trying to keep hogs in instead of out - lifted it up and crawled under), I would not use fencing. If a hog really wants to get to the corn, some flimsy fencing is not going to keep it out.

Kjodie, the company I work for manufactures the fixed knot fence wire in your link. It will absolutely keep hogs out when installed the right way, we've installed and tested enough of it to prove that. The problem in using it for small feeder pens is that you have to build good braces if you're building a pen with corners or you have to use stronger posts set deeper in the ground than just t-posts if you're going to build a circular pen. It can be done, but it will get more expensive and more labor intensive than hog panels wired to t-posts.

It's really the only fence that will work for feral hog exclusion, but in this case it wouldn't really be practical.

Kjodle- key words there are High Tensile.

You absolutely cannot create a high tensile circular fence without some serious construction.



Edit: my choice would be hog panels. You can always modify it into a figure 6 and work on your hog problem at the same time.

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Just make sure you wire shut the inlet to the trap/pen if you are not going to be there. Unfortunately, this doesn't really work for South Texas because you just end up with a pen full of javelinas.

Hogs will get under that wire fence easily. The fence around our property is made of that stuff and they just put their nose under it and bend it up. Hog or combination panels are the way to go.

Snoopy, no offense to you whatsoever, but if the hogs can bend it up and push under, it's either a different kind of fence, or it's not put up correctly. They'll go right under (and right through) low tensile wire, barbed wire, and some electric fences like they're not even there. They can also get under high tensile, fixed knot fence if the fence is not tensioned properly, if the posts are set too far out (over ~15 ft.) or if the fence is not attached to the posts in the right way.

Edit: another thing might be if the wire pattern on the fence is one of the larger, more open spacings, it would decrease the vertical strength, or smaller hogs could squeeze through. There are some patterns that we don't recommend where feral hogs are an issue for this reason.

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GeronimoAg, I've got plenty of T-posts, enough to put them every 10' if i had to (took a fence out, so we have tons) If i did that and could pull it pretty tight, would that work? Again, not for a hog trap but for pens around feeders.

Hogs would get under that with no problem. If you really want to use that stuff, you'd have to have posts literally every 2 feet and huge boulders along the edge of the fence, IMHO.

We don't bury our hog panels. We put them flush on the ground. T-post in the middle and one at each end. Hogs cruise around the perimeter looking for stray kernels of corn but never get in.

Kjodie, the problem with using just t-posts is that the fence has to be tensioned up tight so the hogs can't push under it. If you're going to make a circular pen, the t-posts would have to be set very deep, say about 4' so the fence wouldn't pull them out of the ground.

Also, you would need to put the posts closer in together. Not every 2' like ZooGuy seems to think, but at least ever 6-8 feet.

Aside from that, the force of the tensioned fence would most likely bend the t-posts in to the point where the fence would become loose could be pushed under.

I'd love to tell you that it would work, but in order for that to happen, you'd have to put in some heavier posts or put in braces to pull from. But once you've done that, it would be easier and cheaper to do t-posts and panels for a small pen. Now if you're looking at a larger pen, say 100' x 100', that's a different story. But in my opinion, it's just not practical for this kind of job.

As exclusion fence, nothing will beat it. We've got literally hundreds, if not thousands of miles of this fence up for hog control around the country, and it works great. The guys calling it chicken wire, saying that it's flimsy, or that you need posts every 2' with boulders attached just don't have any real experience with it. And guys, I don't mean anything buy that, and I'm not trying to start anything, so please just take it for what it's worth. I just make a living putting this stuff up and talking about it every day, and those are common misconceptions.

We did our pens similar to fsguide. We used 6 16' hog panels, did not bury, t-post at the corners and in the middle of each panel at 8'(2 t-posts on the side with the gate 4' from the corners for an 8' wide gate). We also added a strand of barbed wire maybe 6-8 inches over the hog panels to keep cows from leaning on the panels too much. I would still use hog panel over any type of wire fence. I just think they will work better and last longer.

Hog panels are the only way to go, fairly easy to put up and take down, and hogs won't get through. Keeping hog wire tight would be too difficult. Above pens are too small - too much corn getting outside the pens and deer are often leary of small pens. Would recommend 14 sixteen foot panels, 3.5 panels per side. One tpost at end of each panel and one in the middle of each panel. This way, little corn gets thrown to the hogs, and deer feel more at ease getting inside the pen.

I'd have to cut down 1 million mesquite and cedar to have a 14 panel pen.

Since you have a ton of Tposts why don't you get the hog panels and cut them in half so they will fit in the back of your truck.

You'll have to use more Tposts but it should be strong enough.

I have some hog panels and t posts for sale. In the Temple area

http://killeen.craigslist.org/grd/3080303544.html

I was in this business for years. The best I found for fencing out hogs around feeders was the 4x4x20' 36" high panel. Openings are 4"x4", panel height is 36", panel length is 20'

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