With all the rain, good time to look for points after the water drys.

rainbows....check
inline skating....check
wine tours....check
arrowhead pics....check

The OB board is done for if this ever gets out.

And to the OP, you violated rule #1 so end thread.

I live on the Brazos River. I am surrounded by Paleo to modern camps. These are pictures of a few of the spear points, arrowheads and knives I have found out here and elsewhere in Texas (Blackberry included for scale) from classic local Perdiz and Scallorn arrowheads to Folsum, Plainview and Scottsbluff spear points, including flint from the Alabates Quarry, native local cherts and occasionally, petrified wood. I have watched Paleo sites destroyed by development and as the city expands westward, many more will go, but I enjoy what I have learned from my studies here and elsewhere in Central Texas:















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Those are awesome Yuccadoo!!!

Excellent finds. What is the age on these?

Here's my prize artifact. It's a 4" quartzite Waco Sinker from the same time period as the Buckeye Knoll people. It was found on my uncle's land just West of Victoria about a mile from the river on Spring Creek.



Knife from the Coleto Creek area. Same people.

Varies widely. The arrow heads are probably about 100 AD to 1500 AD and the Spear points from 100 AD back to 7500 BC. Documented mammoth kills near my place set a post ice age bookend on some of the spear points. 12th century US was tough on native populations as I have studied....so I am speculating on native arrowhead dating, although I have a large reference library the I use as a basis for my approximate dating.

The knives are anybody's guess, IMO, although two of them I found were in proximity to what I believe was a Caddoan culture site I stumbled across.

There is a lot of local native pottery shards/pieces, some with various striations/ornamental markings but a lot of simply reduced fired, unmarked pieces are prevalent. I found a site out at Lake Somerville right after the lake was built....in about a foot of water, I literally stubbed my toe on a metate.

Lots of scrapers, suspected atl weights, shaft scrapers, and large, sharp chert pieces appropriate for breaking open bones for marrow, too. Petrified deer antler 'picks', bison teeth, shell middens, and massive cooking areas covering acres where natives grilled fresh water mussels on burning coals along the Little River abound. This area was teaming with native life for centuries before our ancestors came along.

When the fire ants showed up, they wiped out the indigenous population of pocket gophers....in the sandy hills along the Brazos, the pocket gophers literally left goppher mounds in every square foot of loamy/sandy soil, constantly churning up artifacts to the surface, where the next good rain would reveal them to those looking. Stories from old timers coming out to the hill I live on included stints with their sons and 5 gallon buckets, picking up hundreds of arrowheads back in the 50's and 60's after passing rains. I only caught the last 5 or 6 years of the pocket gopher 'era' when I moved out here before they disappeared, and that was when I first took an interest in the native population and culture. Back then, I found it difficult to learn any real facts outside of a rare few books such as Suhm and Jelks as rough dating guides and info from Thomas Hester. I didn't even know A&M housed Harry Shafer, a local expert at TAMU, until years after my interest began.

Those days of the gopher mounds are gone, but I am aware of over 100 sites in Brazos and Burleson county where roads, development, and construction have revealed sites of all ages.

I never dig for artifacts. If others do, I will look (I am not referring to archeological digs but instead, unrelated human disturbances), but that is just my personal rule. I stick to my land these days to hunt, but in the past, I would look in road cuts and gravel pits and such, where I had permission.

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Tex4guns,

Your second pic is what I believe to be a Lerma...classed as a projectile point of archaic times, although they are typically found on the Texas Mexico border. I have found 3 of those in Brazos Co. that are almost identical to your...where did you find it?

Found it near Coleto Creek near Raisin, TX. Just South of Victoria. That sinker is really old. Some people think it was a ritualistic or jewelry item instead of a net weight due to it's color and perfect shape. Who the heck knows.

FYI this website re: Buckeye Knoll info and links:

http://www.texasbeyondhistory.net/st-plains/images/ap9.html

The Indians had blackberries?

Muzzy MX 4!

We have found a few pieces on our property in Lee county. I will try to see if we have any pictures of them. Nothing as large or as in tact as some of the other pictures posted though.

Great finds!

Here is a picture of the last two I found down in Laredo.




Gil '91

Technically it's a drill, or so I've been told.
Found it in Legion Creek between Llano and Fredricksburg at a friends ranch, not far from Enchanted Rock.

The two prizes of my family's collection. Found at the same location several weeks apart in Central TX.

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I found a site out at Lake Somerville right after the lake was built....in about a foot of water, I literally stubbed my toe on a metate.

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I know of a couple of spots on the lake that have produced literally hundreds of points, and tens of thousands of knapping fragments, and there is much more to find. That are must have been a major site for camps or at least tool work in the area. I've found an arrowhead and a broken spearpoint there while fishing.

My only other find was a Gary dart point in the bed of a creek on the northwest side of Houston.



There are sites all over the place, if you know what to look for. It is amazing how many artifacts have been produced over a few thousand years by a relatively small number of people.

As hunters, think if we were to produce a point for every post we put here on Texags... we'd have tons of them in our stock, too.

I should really take pictures of all of mine...found in the hill country! Great pictures!

AWESOME. I'll get pics up of mine soon. I've got some from both TX and NM.

Hellapark- that's one sweet drill

Terk-those are friggin huge! Unless of course you have tiny hands

FWIW, most of what we call "arrowheads" are actually dart points or projectile points. They tipped spears or atl atl darts. The bow didn't emerge in the Southwest until it appears sometime around 700AD, and when it did, most actual arrowheads were much much smaller than dart points.

amber...this thread really makes me want to go look for arrowheads one weekend at our land. you down?

totally down! You know thats right up my alley!

I loved these as a kid:

we donated a ton to the anthropology department at a&m a couple years back. my grandfather had a huge collection that he and his brothers and sisters had found in central texas. i kept two display cases that he had made of his favorites. they will be going up in my 'texas' room when i get it squared away.

scottimus- where are those taken?

PS, A&M Anthropology grad here! (I wish I could say I am actually using my degree...but Im not)

those are not mine. they are from the Guachimontones museum in Puebla, Jalisco, Mexico. Just some ancient 3000 year old worshiping grounds next to a volacono, so all of them are made of lava rocks.

The second are from Museo de Guadalajara in central Mexico.

Obsidian to be specific. Some of the sharpest points made.

Volcanic glass....there remains great flint knapping resources in parts of Mexico that can produce incredible knives and other objects from obsidian.

The drill is beautiful...the base has some characteristics of the Perdenales points.

As to timing of the advent of the bow, my understanding places the use of the bow in the Americas a bit earlier at around 100 +/- AD.

Turk: I can't say that I have ever found anything like those artifacts in central Texas.....they look a bit like the San Gabriel Biface (200 - 550 AD), or possibly trade blanks.

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Yuccadoo,

That first one you posted appears to be a VERY ancient Folsom point, as old as 11,000 years old possibly. Very cool.

Anyone else want me to try to ID thier find, I have a copy of "A Field Guide to Stone Artifacts of Texas Indians", which is pretty thorough. Those two great big points are trade blanks most likely. They fit the description perfectly.

Turk's are "Kinneys."
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Sit tight, someone will fix er for ya

Yep, I am a wookie.

but this isn't rocket science.
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