I personally think AR/VR will really take off once apple enters the game, even if apple doesn't offer the best product.

VR: The next big thing for the last 30 years.

Ever since The Lawnmower Man, and of course this

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People piloting a driverless vehicle from their house using some type of VR helmet.

Manipulating real world objects. People will go to work and essentially a brain for a robot. Whether it's a forklift or a driverless semi truck. It think we ultimately headed in that direction.

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A lot more realistic to eliminate humans from those kinds of job entirely. We are pretty much there already.

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If they can't eliminate the humans from that process, those humans are going to live in Bangladesh or Vietnam or something like that,...

If they create a situation where workers can be anywhere and the factory can be anywhere, the workers are going to be where ever they are cheapest. With the exception of some specialized applications, no one is going to suddenly find themselves needing to be versed in the metaverse or VR in order to remain marketable.

The metaverse is not synonymous with VR either. Metaverse like games have existed for decades. SecondLife is a big one. It is interesting conceptually and fairly popular, but it didn't take over the world. Despite what various billionaires would like you to think, the metaverse isn't going to be the next big thing.

Its an anarcho-capitalist wet dream. "What if I could create a universe where I could arbitrarily control the scarcity of goods and take a cut of literally every transaction???" They take a situation where there's no practical reason that something like virtual real estate has to be scarce and marketized it. There's a reason that they really really really want to make the metaverse a thing, because they believe it will make them money. You don't throw this many engineering hours and marketing dollars at a project because you think it will make individual lives or society better.

I got an Oculus Quest 2 before the price went up $100. I tried it out at a trade show and thought it was novel enough to drop a few hundred on. I've tested some of the games, checked out Meta's options, but really havent found anything captivating enough to spend much time on - not that I have time to waste on it anyway. I just wanted to check out the concept. It mostly sits on the shelf.

I remember in middle school, I'd spend time in AOL chat rooms. The biggest piece of Meta's service is these VR chat rooms. I think I would have found that engaging as a kid. Walking into a British pub and talking to British people. But I ain't got time for that.

They sell the idea of practical applications for it (flight training, surgeon scenarios, etc), but for most end users, it's just a toy.

You don't need to spend a couple of thousand if you want to play with it a bit, just get the Quest 2. It's good enough.

Eleven Ping Pong is awesome. And very addicting.

It will be another 20 years before companies hop on to using it. It would be really cool to watch installation videos in VR. The problem is that outside of the VR headset companies, nobody is writing software for it yet. You need enough hobbyists doing it in their free time that people can start commercializing it. Then you need enough companies willing to spend the money to take advantage of that.

I could see watching movies and sports games remotely with friends taking off a lot sooner though.

The property is interesting to me. Just like domain addresses, it's bound to be highly lucrative for early adopters if this version is the final thing everyone is using. But with it having a virtual set location, that adds in all sorts of extra nuances than just heading to a website.

Using VR for training videos would be ideal. Likewise, having the "old surgeon" look on while young hands operate - though robotic surgeries do a lot of the same thing.

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The vision on a "meta verse" is solid. Younger generations will gravitate towards this version of reality at some point because we are making our world too difficult to live in. Increasing taxes, additional regulations about what you can/can't do, issues/policies resulting in political divide and hostility, wars erupting, etc. People are looking for something better and at some point, they won't see the uphill battle for improving society as a worthy cause. Hence why business leaders are looking for an alternative, whether it be virtual (like the meta verse) or physical (trying to live on a different planet).

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I understand why people think this, but it's wrong. The internet and technology are exacerbating some of the problems you mentioned, like division, rather than solving them. When folks communicate online, there's no person standing in front of them. They can say anything they want with no repercussions. They can curate their interactions and only exist an an online echo chamber. Taxes and regulations? I don't think those are going away in VR. Add in the perception that one can do anything online because it's not physically happening and regulation becomes even more important unless we want an even bigger cesspool than the current internet. There's also the interesting aspect of living a life where the only accomplishments are virtual. The brain doesn't handle that well. If we get a chemical sense of accomplishment without accomplishing anything in reality, depression becomes an enormous problem. That happens with some people and immersion in video games now. Just saying people shouldn't think of VR as the answer to the worst aspects of humanity. It will only amplify them. There's my 2 cents.

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ExPLK said:

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I understand why people think this, but it's wrong. The internet and technology are exacerbating some of the problems you mentioned, like division, rather than solving them. When folks communicate online, there's no person standing in front of them. They can say anything they want with no repercussions. They can curate their interactions and only exist an an online echo chamber. Taxes and regulations? I don't think those are going away in VR. Add in the perception that one can do anything online because it's not physically happening and regulation becomes even more important unless we want an even bigger cesspool than the current internet. There's also the interesting aspect of living a life where the only accomplishments are virtual. The brain doesn't handle that well. If we get a chemical sense of accomplishment without accomplishing anything in reality, depression becomes an enormous problem. That happens with some people and immersion in video games now. Just saying people shouldn't think of VR as the answer to the worst aspects of humanity. It will only amplify them. There's my 2 cents.

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I think you need one of these to access the metaverse.

The government and DoD have entered the AR/VR market. Not saying they will revolutionize the industry, but having a customer with a billion dollar budget can't hurt.

Is Apple Vision Pro the technological leap we've been waiting for?