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Horrible…this idea.
May I ask why?Stat Monitor Repairman said:
What do I need to order?
How do I get onboard?
What is my best bet for a few grand?
Might want to venture back over to F16 with this troll post
Because now's the time.YouBet said:May I ask why?Stat Monitor Repairman said:
What do I need to order?
How do I get onboard?
What is my best bet for a few grand?
Iphone 1 was considered a gimmick. Facebook was for college students. We right there now with the metaverse.
In 3-4 years, we might look back at all this differently.
In any event, I feel like now's the time on metaverse.
But what are you going to do on it that gets you ahead of anyone else?Stat Monitor Repairman said:Because now's the time.YouBet said:May I ask why?Stat Monitor Repairman said:
What do I need to order?
How do I get onboard?
What is my best bet for a few grand?
Iphone 1 was considered a gimmick. Facebook was for college students. We right there now with the metaverse.
In 3-4 years, we might look back at all this differently.
In any event, I feel like now's the time on metaverse.
I think young people will adopt the hell out of some version of it but they can do so without me.
It not about getting ahead. It's about being an early adopter.
I got caught flat footed on a couple technological leaps.
I think you can see this one coming.
I want to get out in front of it and trying to figure out how to do it.
But so far its been a bunch of folks eating paste on here.
I got caught flat footed on a couple technological leaps.
I think you can see this one coming.
I want to get out in front of it and trying to figure out how to do it.
But so far its been a bunch of folks eating paste on here.
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
It not about getting ahead. It's about being an early adopter.
I got caught flat footed on a couple technological leaps.
I think you can see this one coming.
I want to get out in front of it and trying to figure out how to do it.
But so far its been a bunch of folks eating paste on here.
Well, have fun with it.
There is nothing to early adopt though. It's a time waste of which I get enough of that on here.
There's being an early adopter, and there's being too early. The big stack of Pop Sci magazines from the 2000s I recycled a few months ago were full of stuff that never came to be that we all forgot about. Pocket PCs, Super Audio CD, Sony Aibo, Ergo Audrey, ...
If you're talking about VR or AR, have fun with it but be prepared for standards to change quickly and investments to go obsolete along with it. Think Hololens - fun to play around with but ended up being a dead end.
If you're talking about VR or AR, have fun with it but be prepared for standards to change quickly and investments to go obsolete along with it. Think Hololens - fun to play around with but ended up being a dead end.
Google Glass for another.The Fife said:
There's being an early adopter, and there's being too early. The big stack of Pop Sci magazines from the 2000s I recycled a few months ago were full of stuff that never came to be that we all forgot about. Pocket PCs, Super Audio CD, Sony Aibo, Ergo Audrey, ...
If you're talking about VR or AR, have fun with it but be prepared for standards to change quickly and investments to go obsolete along with it. Think Hololens - fun to play around with but ended up being a dead end.
Did that ever become a consumer project? What surprised me is that it still seems to exist but in a limited capacity and doing a fraction of what it seems like everyone was originally sold on by the concept way back when.
I don't recall. I just remember it got killed/deferred because consumers got creeped out over the ability for users to surveil or "spy" on you with them.The Fife said:
Did that ever become a consumer project? What surprised me is that it still seems to exist but in a limited capacity and doing a fraction of what it seems like everyone was originally sold on by the concept way back when.
Granted, that was a lifetime ago in the world of tech. Now that we are wholly adopting Black Mirror as a reality (I never will), I suspect we will see it resurface soon and everyone will be fine with it this time around.
Mark Zuckerberg’s META Is a Flop – After Billions Spent – Less than 200,000 Users on its Virtual Reality Universe https://t.co/W3N2Qg1T9q pic.twitter.com/kho7wxVvLZ
— Breaking Digest (@breaking_digest) October 17, 2022
Meta and Apple will be the big players for VR and AR. The only way they'll be as big as smart phones is when that tech is as small as glasses frames and contact lenses. Gaming and enterprise will be the only reason why the bulky things exist.
Software wise, it's still too damn early. From the Meta Developer thing, the most metaverse thing they showed was being able to have your Meta Avatar go between third party apps. Everyone is gonna want to do their own thing till consumers determine what's cool and convenient. Apple has Memojis, Snapchat has their cartoons, Microsoft had Xbox avatars which failed, and Meta has their avatars. I guess the most meta thing is investing in NFTs and Bitcoin, but you don't know what's gonna flop, be a scam, or succeed. So I guess put your couple grand in Meta stock, Apple, and Bitcoin.
Software wise, it's still too damn early. From the Meta Developer thing, the most metaverse thing they showed was being able to have your Meta Avatar go between third party apps. Everyone is gonna want to do their own thing till consumers determine what's cool and convenient. Apple has Memojis, Snapchat has their cartoons, Microsoft had Xbox avatars which failed, and Meta has their avatars. I guess the most meta thing is investing in NFTs and Bitcoin, but you don't know what's gonna flop, be a scam, or succeed. So I guess put your couple grand in Meta stock, Apple, and Bitcoin.
I remember walking into an Incredible Universe store circa 1993 and playing a VR Boxing game against my dad. At the time I thought I had just experienced the future of gaming. It was only a matter of time before all games were like that.
Almost 30 years later and we still aren't there.
I have a hard time seeing people wanting to meet in a metaverse when video conferencing has taken such a giant leap in the past two years. It's trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
Almost 30 years later and we still aren't there.
I have a hard time seeing people wanting to meet in a metaverse when video conferencing has taken such a giant leap in the past two years. It's trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
I played with some bleeding edge AR systems at work 5+ years ago. I'm still convinced it's the future but we aren't there yet.
The system demo I used was a prototype to assist astronauts in performing tasks. It would give me an arrow pointing to the valve that needed to be turned and then overlayed an animation of the valve turning clockwise once I got it in my view.
I can see this tech being massively successful for petrochemical plant operators down to auto mechanics, etc…. But we're still a decade away from having the hardware integatable into something that people will wear and two decades away from the software being easy enough for a plant operator to program.
The system demo I used was a prototype to assist astronauts in performing tasks. It would give me an arrow pointing to the valve that needed to be turned and then overlayed an animation of the valve turning clockwise once I got it in my view.
I can see this tech being massively successful for petrochemical plant operators down to auto mechanics, etc…. But we're still a decade away from having the hardware integatable into something that people will wear and two decades away from the software being easy enough for a plant operator to program.
CoppellAg93 said:Mark Zuckerberg’s META Is a Flop – After Billions Spent – Less than 200,000 Users on its Virtual Reality Universe https://t.co/W3N2Qg1T9q pic.twitter.com/kho7wxVvLZ
— Breaking Digest (@breaking_digest) October 17, 2022
I guess Stat Monitor is 200,001. You would have thought something like this takes off during Covid while we are all at home. Guess not.
It might just be though because it's Facebook. Kids don't like Facebook and Zuckerburg is a weirdo dork.
Google Glass was freaking awesome. Wrong product at wrong time. I think it'd be more accepted today than 10 years ago.YouBet said:Google Glass for another.The Fife said:
There's being an early adopter, and there's being too early. The big stack of Pop Sci magazines from the 2000s I recycled a few months ago were full of stuff that never came to be that we all forgot about. Pocket PCs, Super Audio CD, Sony Aibo, Ergo Audrey, ...
If you're talking about VR or AR, have fun with it but be prepared for standards to change quickly and investments to go obsolete along with it. Think Hololens - fun to play around with but ended up being a dead end.
I took it on a lot of trips. Was amazing in NYC being able to navigate with maps overlaid on the streets in front of me. Taking pictures with a wink was also super handy. Sure, I looked like a massive dork, but it was still extremely useful.
It sounds like y'all are saying there needs to be a technological leap before we get there with metaverse.
And some of you are saying we may never get there at all.
I got no interest in anything to do with what Zuckerberg is trying to do, or the gimmick of it all.
My main motivation is that I feel like I should be more familiar with the technology than I am right now, which is zero. I feel like I need a baseline understanding of it and how it works.
I'm not looking to solve any particular problem with it. It doesn't look that entertaining. Like someone said its a time sink, and its not really better than current videoconference technology.
Nevertheless, I feel like that's the future.
People piloting a driverless vehicle from their house using some type of VR helmet.
Manipulating real world objects. People will go to work and essentially a brain for a robot. Whether it's a forklift or a driverless semi truck. It think we ultimately headed in that direction.
That's my reason for it. To try and stay current on technology. Have some basic level of familiarity with it, and its capabilities.
Does that happen now or later. From the sound of it I'm better off waiting. Keep an eye on it but now's not the time to jump in.
And some of you are saying we may never get there at all.
I got no interest in anything to do with what Zuckerberg is trying to do, or the gimmick of it all.
My main motivation is that I feel like I should be more familiar with the technology than I am right now, which is zero. I feel like I need a baseline understanding of it and how it works.
I'm not looking to solve any particular problem with it. It doesn't look that entertaining. Like someone said its a time sink, and its not really better than current videoconference technology.
Nevertheless, I feel like that's the future.
People piloting a driverless vehicle from their house using some type of VR helmet.
Manipulating real world objects. People will go to work and essentially a brain for a robot. Whether it's a forklift or a driverless semi truck. It think we ultimately headed in that direction.
That's my reason for it. To try and stay current on technology. Have some basic level of familiarity with it, and its capabilities.
Does that happen now or later. From the sound of it I'm better off waiting. Keep an eye on it but now's not the time to jump in.
I guess if you are younger then this makes sense. I'm 48 and it's irrelevant to me and always will be. I look at it as the next big cultural movement that will cement the destruction of society. Because of that I want nothing to do with it other than possibly some gaming.
Having said that, it will be huge at some point. The younger generations already live their lives online so this is the logical next step. It just doesn't look like it's going to be Dorkburgs version of it. He may get My Spaced here which would be karma.
Having said that, it will be huge at some point. The younger generations already live their lives online so this is the logical next step. It just doesn't look like it's going to be Dorkburgs version of it. He may get My Spaced here which would be karma.
Read Ready Player One. That is the metaverse. You don't seem to have grasp on what companies are trying to build, so start there. More realistically, take that with a boatload of ads coming at you from every direction, then you have what the metaverse will most likely be.
Yeah man. I'm familiar with it. I want to say I've read the book in 2018.
Been watching the technology develop. Keeping an eye on it.
Been watching the technology develop. Keeping an eye on it.
The graphics
This thread started with someone looking for direction and turned into a thread of subjective perspective, which is pretty funny to watch. Therefore, I'll give my 2 cents.
The vision on a "meta verse" is solid. Younger generations will gravitate towards this version of reality at some point because we are making our world too difficult to live in. Increasing taxes, additional regulations about what you can/can't do, issues/policies resulting in political divide and hostility, wars erupting, etc. People are looking for something better and at some point, they won't see the uphill battle for improving society as a worthy cause. Hence why business leaders are looking for an alternative, whether it be virtual (like the meta verse) or physical (trying to live on a different planet).
I think the execution and technology aren't there yet. It has to be simple, easy to use and affordable. Like others said, people don't want the hassle of buying bulky hardware that will only work for a subset of virtual solutions and quickly become obsolete. We have to get to a universal standard that any commercial entity can tap into (like the internet) and hardware that is lightweight, inexpensive and simple.
The internet is still the foundation of society today because a standard exists regarding accessibility and people have gravitated towards a lightweight, affordable tool to access it (phones). Most use their phones to access it in various forms (browsers, apps, etc.) versus a computer/laptop.
I suspect we will see the same with the meta verse, once ready. The biggest setback is that the people who are leading the effort to get there are prioritizing profitability instead of moving the vision forward. Profitability and standardization are conflicting objectives. You might have seen that meta recently partnered with Microsoft to offer the meta verse version of Teams. This is a step in the right direction for standardization but it will take more and the use case isn't valuable. I don't think a lot of people will want to have a virtual business meeting when they can have a video conference and accomplish the same objective.
If we could do our grocery shopping virtually, by actually seeing the produce in the store, picking it up, feeling it, smelling it, selecting it and then having it delivered to us, all while sitting on our couch in our living room - that is something people would jump at. However, we still have a ways to go to get to that vision.
The vision on a "meta verse" is solid. Younger generations will gravitate towards this version of reality at some point because we are making our world too difficult to live in. Increasing taxes, additional regulations about what you can/can't do, issues/policies resulting in political divide and hostility, wars erupting, etc. People are looking for something better and at some point, they won't see the uphill battle for improving society as a worthy cause. Hence why business leaders are looking for an alternative, whether it be virtual (like the meta verse) or physical (trying to live on a different planet).
I think the execution and technology aren't there yet. It has to be simple, easy to use and affordable. Like others said, people don't want the hassle of buying bulky hardware that will only work for a subset of virtual solutions and quickly become obsolete. We have to get to a universal standard that any commercial entity can tap into (like the internet) and hardware that is lightweight, inexpensive and simple.
The internet is still the foundation of society today because a standard exists regarding accessibility and people have gravitated towards a lightweight, affordable tool to access it (phones). Most use their phones to access it in various forms (browsers, apps, etc.) versus a computer/laptop.
I suspect we will see the same with the meta verse, once ready. The biggest setback is that the people who are leading the effort to get there are prioritizing profitability instead of moving the vision forward. Profitability and standardization are conflicting objectives. You might have seen that meta recently partnered with Microsoft to offer the meta verse version of Teams. This is a step in the right direction for standardization but it will take more and the use case isn't valuable. I don't think a lot of people will want to have a virtual business meeting when they can have a video conference and accomplish the same objective.
If we could do our grocery shopping virtually, by actually seeing the produce in the store, picking it up, feeling it, smelling it, selecting it and then having it delivered to us, all while sitting on our couch in our living room - that is something people would jump at. However, we still have a ways to go to get to that vision.
A lot more realistic to eliminate humans from those kinds of job entirely. We are pretty much there already.Quote:
People piloting a driverless vehicle from their house using some type of VR helmet.
Manipulating real world objects. People will go to work and essentially a brain for a robot. Whether it's a forklift or a driverless semi truck. It think we ultimately headed in that direction.
Well said, the way I see it is that this is where the whole "second life" game from the 2000s really happens. It doesn't even necessarily need to be a multiplayer experience. Put on the gear, give the thing a time and place like A&M polo fields, bonfire night 1997 and you're there.
What would be really wild, and possibly dangerous because people might not come back IMO, is if it could do something like that but the experience runs at say 100x relative to the passage of actual time. 3.5 days feels like a whole year in there. It would be way too easy to get sucked in deep to something like that.
What would be really wild, and possibly dangerous because people might not come back IMO, is if it could do something like that but the experience runs at say 100x relative to the passage of actual time. 3.5 days feels like a whole year in there. It would be way too easy to get sucked in deep to something like that.
Reminds me of that episode of black mirror where the computer renders a digital recreation of the past.
Exactly, only this time you didn't make whatever big mistake happened in reality. I could see something like that being orders of magnitude more addicting than social media can be.
A) Lag time will be an issue until/unless quantum communications become available.
B) I think society will fail before we reach a "everyone lives in the meta verse."
I work with a lot of younger kids. The really young ones seem a bit more stable than Millennials, but it seems like they're all somewhere on the spectrum, and have some kind of emotional trauma.
I don't think exposing them to the adult world at a young age is a good idea.
Not a huge fan of over-indulged and prolonged adolescence - but I don't think the first exposure to sex should be porn, featuring sex acts my generation was either not even aware of, or wouldn't learn about until 30 or so.
Similarly, every example of excellence they know is a "6 9s" talent.
Trying to convince them that achieving the 98th percentile will lead to a great life, is difficult when everyone they know of is at the 99.999999 percentile.
B) I think society will fail before we reach a "everyone lives in the meta verse."
I work with a lot of younger kids. The really young ones seem a bit more stable than Millennials, but it seems like they're all somewhere on the spectrum, and have some kind of emotional trauma.
I don't think exposing them to the adult world at a young age is a good idea.
Not a huge fan of over-indulged and prolonged adolescence - but I don't think the first exposure to sex should be porn, featuring sex acts my generation was either not even aware of, or wouldn't learn about until 30 or so.
Similarly, every example of excellence they know is a "6 9s" talent.
Trying to convince them that achieving the 98th percentile will lead to a great life, is difficult when everyone they know of is at the 99.999999 percentile.
Yes, and no. A big part now is restructuring the environment to work with the tech.
An actual "drive down a city street" program is going to be really hard.
To be expected, they'd have to drive like an experienced middle aged delivery man/cabbie. That's a lot of data, and it's going to have to be onboard somehow, due to lag time.
Dedicated drone lanes for deliveries/autonomous vehicles between cities/autonomous parking garages would be doable with current tech, and rather modest legal changes.
An actual "drive down a city street" program is going to be really hard.
To be expected, they'd have to drive like an experienced middle aged delivery man/cabbie. That's a lot of data, and it's going to have to be onboard somehow, due to lag time.
Dedicated drone lanes for deliveries/autonomous vehicles between cities/autonomous parking garages would be doable with current tech, and rather modest legal changes.
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