Faint Writing on Antique Board - How to Get an Image?

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ravingfans
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Howdy Folks--need some help.

My Dad recently showed us a board from his homeplace in Louisiana that we believe is from sometime after the civil war but before 1900. I mounted it on the wall and some lettering is starting to appear but very faintly. As a child he knew what the writing was that was on it, but he doesn't remember. We can make out some W's or V's, but not much else. there appear to be two lines of writing.

I was wondering if it is possible to use Ultraviolet light, infrared, or x-ray to get an image of what the signage was for? What kind of tools or techniques are available and how could I get in touch with somebody that has such?







aggieforester05
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Have you tried a black light? Maybe try under some different types of lights from 2700K-5000K with and without polarized sun glasses.
ravingfans
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aggieforester05 said:

Have you tried a black light? Maybe try under some different types of lights from 2700K-5000K with and without polarized sun glasses.
I haven't tried anything yet--black light is a good idea--basically a UV exciter? Then take a picture with a camera to capture the image and make out the lettering?

the 2700 - 5000K are visible, correct? so that would be a different experiment?

Thanks!
Bradley.Kohr.II
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UV Vis would be my first try.
aggieforester05
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ravingfans said:

aggieforester05 said:

Have you tried a black light? Maybe try under some different types of lights from 2700K-5000K with and without polarized sun glasses.
I haven't tried anything yet--black light is a good idea--basically a UV exciter? Then take a picture with a camera to capture the image and make out the lettering?

the 2700 - 5000K are visible, correct? so that would be a different experiment?

Thanks!


Yes 2700K is warm white and 5000K is bright white. I'm just suggesting that you try the full spectrum of typical lightbulb colors because there can be quiet a bit of difference in visible details under different color lights.
TMoney2007
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aggieforester05 said:

ravingfans said:

aggieforester05 said:

Have you tried a black light? Maybe try under some different types of lights from 2700K-5000K with and without polarized sun glasses.
I haven't tried anything yet--black light is a good idea--basically a UV exciter? Then take a picture with a camera to capture the image and make out the lettering?

the 2700 - 5000K are visible, correct? so that would be a different experiment?

Thanks!


Yes 2700K is warm white and 5000K is bright white. I'm just suggesting that you try the full spectrum of typical lightbulb colors because there can be quiet a bit of difference in visible details under different color lights.
I think this is one of the things that historians do to try to discern heavily faded documents. There may be wavelengths that bring out the lettering, but not the background.

You could grab a Phillips Hue bulb and play around in the Red-Green-Blue space and see if it makes anything pop out.
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Agree with pretty much all of the ideas above.

Also try:
- Taking photos at an off-angle. This may help bring out features.
- Run the photos through Photoshop or other software. Try the software filters and manipulating the settings.
ravingfans
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Hi Folks--thanks for all the suggestions!

I visited Mom and Dad for Mother's day today and brought over some tools,

* I started with a blacklight at 365 nm wavelength and got nothing
* per my cousin's idea, I tried a nightvision security camera--BTW Wyze makes a killer pan/tilt/nightvision and daylight camera for $37 at Homedepot. Cheaper one for $25 without the pan/tilt
Boom--the board came to life, see below:



I had the room dark and was looking at the images it picked up with my blackberry, and gave the phone to The Rib and told her to give it to Dad. Had to tell her 3 times because she was captivated by the images. She gave it to my dad and between him and mom they spent the next 2 hours recounting the family history this unlocked!

Taylor was the name of the man that my great Aunt was married to at the time (died of TB a Loooong time ago) and his two sons were Walter and William. Dad thinks the initials were what was on the shed, so Walter and William Taylor--painted on there by their father Frank Taylor. The sign was painted to advertise the business and everybody knew the business was selling arsenic to kill the boll weevils.

new mystery is this marking, which Dad doesn't know anything about. It seems to be a C, but might be a special symbol. The building was a store for Arsenic to dust on cotton to kill the boll weevils. Not sure the connection. If anyone has an idea, let me know what this symbol might mean.



Thanks for your help and all your ideas!

Phil '83
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