HALO: The Master Chief Collection, Halo 2 MP returns!

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Sentinel
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Oh. You were in Walton...
Aggietaco
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Cock sucker, mother****er, eat a bag of ****
****** bag, ****** bag, suck your mother's tit
Walton's the best dorm, all the others suck
Walton Walton **** **** ****
HossAg
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FincAg
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riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
Sound Awake
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Cock sucker, mother****er, eat a bag of ****
****** bag, ****** bag, suck your mother's tit
Walton's the best dorm, all the others suck
Walton Walton **** **** ****


You'll fit in perfectly playing Halo on Xbox Live

And I still pity you for missing the golden days of Halo. It's pretty sad.
HossAg
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Yeah, I also pity you if you missed out on halo 2 and it's perfectness
TexasAggie_02
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Cock sucker, mother****er, eat a bag of ****
****** bag, ****** bag, suck your mother's tit
Walton's the best dorm, all the others suck
Walton Walton **** **** ****


You'll fit in perfectly playing Halo on Xbox Live

And I still pity you for missing the golden days of Halo. It's pretty sad.
Texags is garbage
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I remember playing the sheeet out of Halo 2 when I was in 8th/9th grade. I can safely say I learned numerous insults from the Halo community that I still use today.
space_treadmill
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Few things are more humbling than getting your ass handed to you by a 9 year old.
Seven Psycho Ags
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Some guys from my middle school needed an extra man for a night of Halo. When I got to their house they were talking **** about how good they were and how I didn't stand a chance (I think I was invited just to get my ass handed to me). I never got anything but 1st place.

I was never invited back

Then I won a $20 gift card for Gamestop for destroying everyone in my high school's first annual Halo tournament. I was Nerd King after that
Sound Awake
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Yeah, I also pity you if you missed out on halo 2 and it's perfectness


I'm referring to the Halo 1 and Halo 2 era combined as the golden days of Halo.
jr15aggie
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When I was doing electrical engineering work, we had a Halo 2 Lan night for my group at work. My buddy and I played online so we were more than decent at the game. This first game I decided to hold nothing back... Game was on Zanzibar and I got the sniper up on that "camp froman" area. I proceeded to head shot the crap out of everybody. I had 25+ kills and no deaths. After that I let people kill me and ultimately stopped playing cause it was no contest.

I was unimpressed with so many engineering nerds in the room.
HossAg
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Yeah, I also pity you if you missed out on halo 2 and it's perfectness


I'm referring to the Halo 1 and Halo 2 era combined as the golden days of Halo.


That's fine. I consider halo 2 the greatest game/time of halo. Combat evolved wasn't my second favorite of the series.
AliasMan02
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Interested in this. I played a lot of Halo multiplayer with buddies, but don't think I ever finished a single player campaign of 1 or 2. I'm pretty lousy at shooters, in general. However, I think I'll pick this up for my XBone, if for no other reason than most of what I'm playing is still on my 360.

This is the treatment that I'm praying Mass Effect will get at some point (10 year anniversary isn't too far away). Even if it's a third party that does it, being able to play all three games, with all DLC, and particularly if the controls are normalized between them, would be a dream come true.
wangus12
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That would be awesome Alias
jr15aggie
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Halo 2 took a lot of heat because of the cliff hanger ending and the fact that you didn't play as chief the whole time... But I absolutely loved that game! And I thought the ending was pretty cool too ("sir, I'm finishing this fight! "). How does that not get you hyped for the next one.

In the end, Combat Evolved was the worst game of the series only because it doesn't age as well. Lots of backtracking and rinse/repeat type stuff. But even by today's standards it's dang good. Generally speaking, all 4 master chief Halo games are fantastic... The best ever IMO (and the 2 non chief games were decent enough too). Can't wait to play all 4 campaigns looking better than ever!
Ewok It Out08
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My conclusion for the best games of the Halo series is solely based on the Multiplayer aspect of each game. For me, having played 100 of hours of each and having played with/against the best players in each game (Halo CE tournies against MLG competition / Halo 2 ranked/customs against MLG competition), I feel that Halo CE outclasses Halo 2 in many ways.

For one, I felt that the skill cap in Halo CE exceeded that in Halo 2. The sniper was much easier to master/no scope in Halo 2, and the Battle Rifle also seemed more forgiving than the pistol did in Halo CE.

Second, aspects of the multiplayer were just better in Halo CE. Set timers on power ups meant that both teams were working to position at the same time to either defend, control, or take the power up spawns. Not only that, but since weapons and power ups could be moved with grenades or rockets, you could position yourself at different places in the map to effectively control these items.

Probably my final primary reason is just the lack balance the weapons had in Halo 2. Now, many people would say that the Pistol in Halo CE was not balanced, but if you take the game in context of players on similar skill levels, I think that argument becomes less reasonable. In CE, while the Pistol was usable and viable at all ranges, there were also weapons that countered it at all ranges. Halo 2 lacked this. The Battle Rifle originally had a bullet spread affect that made it worthless at mid to long range. While this was eventually patched, the sniper really had no legitimate counter at mid to long range in Halo 2.

Both games were awesome, no doubt, but I am stoked to jump back into Halo CE.
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. For me, having played 100 of hours of each


only 100. noob.
Ewok It Out08
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100s of hours. Haha. I don't want to admit that I've probably played over a thousand hours of Halo CE but it's probably true
Ewok It Out08
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Some new pictures with the confirmed remake of Coag. Pretty Sweet.





Ewok It Out08
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Walk through of new Ascension

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsmA2m5x_fs
jr15aggie
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FYI, it was confirmed that they will also allow you just to play Halo: CE multiplayer maps... or Halo 2 maps, or 3, or 4. This is a good thing IMO. I don't personally want to cycle through 100+ maps... I want to either play the MP from one game or another.
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FYI, it was confirmed that they will also allow you just to play Halo: CE multiplayer maps... or Halo 2 maps, or 3, or 4. This is a good thing IMO. I don't personally want to cycle through 100+ maps... I want to either play the MP from one game or another.



Good choice by 343. As for the 6 remade maps on Halo 2, I've actually been less than impressed with their choices. So far we know of Ascension, Coagulation, Zanzibar, and Lockout. Ascension is a great choice but Coagulation, Zanzibar and Lockout were both already remade in Halo 3 as Valhalla, Last Resort and Blackout respectively so we already have better looking versions that can be forged. (Halo snobs can get over themselves. Valhalla is the same, dare I say better, as blood gulch and coagulation)

I'd just like to see 343 remake maps that haven't been remade on later games, so that also would disqualify Midship and a few others. Id like to see Headlong, Turf, Gemini, and maybe even a big map like Waterworks. Just my .02, and the only complaint I have with this otherwise awesome collection of games.
jr15aggie
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I hear you on the maps, but that's gotta be the hardest part since everybody is gonna have their own opinions about which maps need to be remade. I remember one of my favorites being Sanctuary, but I doubt it will get a remake.

If it were me, I would probably choose Beaver Creek, Turf, Sanctuary, Ascension, Ivory Tower, Burial Mound.

Zanzibar is a no brainer, but as you said, it's been remade already and I love Coagulation too, but we've seen that type of map multiple times now too.
Seven Psycho Ags
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Red Vs Blue is on Netflix. I wonder if the first season still holds up
Seven Psycho Ags
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Also, I was always a fan of Longest on CE, but doubt it'll make the cut. Very straight forward map, no pun intended.
agfan2013
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Also, I was always a fan of Longest on CE, but doubt it'll make the cut. Very straight forward map, no pun intended.


Was that the same as elongation on 2? If so, that was a fun map. And I agree with you Jr, sanctuary would probably be one if my choices too, loved that map. Just don't want then to remake maps that have already been remade in Halos 3 or 4.
Seven Psycho Ags
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Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about Elongation. It was pretty much the same, yes. I liked the head-on fighting style and quick decision tactics needed for those kinds of maps. It was a good change of pace from open maps with multiple approaches to the objective
Madmarttigan
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Red vs Blue always holds up **** tard.
jcbaggie04
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I have been waiting for an eternity it seems to be able to play Relic again. Halo 2 had the best maps and best overall online experience, albeit a slightly shortened and incomplete campaign storyline. I have too many fond memories of Relic and Halo 2 in general. Glory days of bungie. As was stated earlier, everyone has their favorite maps and for me, I need me some relic.
jr15aggie
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I really wonder if this game will get some SERIOUS staying power once it launches. I understand games like counter strike have seen a recent boost in activity. People are flocking back to the simplistic, skill required MP shooters. Not that recent games like Titanfall are bad, but I will admit that I'm sorta tired of countless loadout options, perks, accessories, etc. Titanfall even allows you to customize different loadouts per game type. It's all become a bit much when it's late, I'm sorta tired, and just want to shoot stuff!

Just put me it the game with the same weapons as everybody else and let us fight it out for the good loot on the battlefield!!!! I'm ready for this again!!!
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(Halo snobs can get over themselves. Valhalla is the same, dare I say better, as blood gulch and coagulation)


i won't argue about being better or not, but Valhalla is not a remake of blood gulch/coag. not even close.

A 'remake' has the same geometry, Valhalla's geometry is vastly different.
Sound Awake
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FYI, it was confirmed that they will also allow you just to play Halo: CE multiplayer maps... or Halo 2 maps, or 3, or 4. This is a good thing IMO. I don't personally want to cycle through 100+ maps... I want to either play the MP from one game or another.



Good choice by 343. As for the 6 remade maps on Halo 2, I've actually been less than impressed with their choices. So far we know of Ascension, Coagulation, Zanzibar, and Lockout. Ascension is a great choice but Coagulation, Zanzibar and Lockout were both already remade in Halo 3 as Valhalla, Last Resort and Blackout respectively so we already have better looking versions that can be forged. (Halo snobs can get over themselves. Valhalla is the same, dare I say better, as blood gulch and coagulation)



Valhalla wasn't even close to being a Coagulation remake. The Blackout "remake" of Lockout was an absolute abomination...it messed up all of the good jumps, angles, and sight lines that made Lockout so fun.

I'll give you Zanzibar.
Seven Psycho Ags
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Valhalla is quoted as being "a spin off of Blood Gulch." Blood Gulch in spirit, but not in design. They really are pretty similar when you think about it. Right up to the cave on one side.

You can never have enough Zanzibar in your life

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Red vs Blue always holds up **** tard.


Cockbite
agfan2013
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Ah I knew it wouldn't be long before I got to debate with some Halo snobs.

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Valhalla is quoted as being "a spin off of Blood Gulch." Blood Gulch in spirit, but not in design. They really are pretty similar when you think about it. Right up to the cave on one side


This I agree with, maybe the word "remake" was a bit strong, but conceptually they are all the same map. How can you say they don't have the same geometry? All three maps are literally canyons, with symmetrical bases on either end, a cave system on one side, and a more open side on the other. Even the spacing and distances apart are very similar. Yes Valhalla has more different terrain than the other two with the whole area to the right of the river (if you are looking out from the base on the beach) but that's what makes it better. In my experience CTF, assault, slayer, just about everything else played the same across all three maps with slightly more action happening on the hill in the middle of the map for Valhalla.

Blackout vs lockout. I don't remember any of the jumps being gone but I wasn't an MLG pro or anything and liked playing causally so I usually wasn't trying to make crazy jumps. You could jump from the main pad into the front of the sniper tower, I do remember that, which was unchanged from Halo 2.

[This message has been edited by Agfan2013 (edited 7/8/2014 1:14p).]
 
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