They're ranked 11th and 9th in the 2 polls at seasons end. WTF, I think even the Aggies could beat them. Am I crazy did anyone see them play and think they're world beaters?

Also are they a potential recruiting rival?

I saw them beat Iowa State in the Houston Bowl. They looked pretty good in that game.

[This message has been edited by Jackal99 (edited 1/9/2006 3:00p).]

TCU is decent, but they should not be a Top 10 team. They lost to SMU for goodness sake. And their record is as much of a product of their schedule as it is their talent. I think OU, Utah, and ISU were the only teams they played that ended up with winning records. Both Utah and ISU were squeakers, and both of those teams ended up a marginal 7-5. And they caught OU while they were still completely clueless.

Obviously, we got our ass kicked by ISU, but that was our rock bottom - kind of like SMU was theirs. Whose to say which one is more embarrassing. I think A&M/TCU would be a pretty good game.

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Agree. I hate it when TCU runs their mouth. When was the last time they amounted to anything? Had a solid bowl win? If for argument's sake, TCU played Baylor's schedule this year, what would their record have been? 6-5 (plus a crappy bowl win)? MAYBE 7-4? I'd guarantee a loss to Texas, Tech and OU (playing OU in late october rather than early September). I think they would lose at least one of A&M, ISU and Neb. Maybe even two of those. Assuming that they SHOULD have beat SMU that puts them at either 6 or 7 wins.

Join a real conference and then I'll consider you to be a real team.

[This message has been edited by Bob Ross (edited 1/9/2006 3:30p).]

I am usually the first one to tell you that A&M is not a good team... A&M would beat TCU this year.


TCU's two significant wins?

vs OU with a fresh Bomar.

vs Iowa State with a hurt Hicks.

it's hard to say. if the A&M team form the early season show upo TCU smokes us. If the one that played ou and tu shows up, then the Ags win.

Wow, some of you need to take off your maroon glasses. Sure TCU lost to their most hated rival dating back to the early days of the Southwest Conference after the emotional high of beating a team that played in the BCS title game the year prior and was pre-season ranked in the top 10. But they beat two teams that embarrassed us, yet you give them absolutely NO credit? I've never subscribed to the old, A beat B, and B beat C, therefore A would beat C, but apparently some of you do based on SMU alone. What in the wide, wide world of sports makes you think that we could have beaten TCU? The fact they played ISU close? In case you forgot, ISU embarrassed us 42-14 AT HOME. We barely beat Div II Texas State, yet we could easily beat TCU?!?

Sagarin has ranked TCU at 15, above Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Auburn, Florida State and Clemson, among many others. Do you think we could have beaten all those schools as well? He has A&M at 40, so apparently, he thinks not.

The NPI (Nolan Power Index) has TCU at 7, A&M at 71 and SMU at 76. And before any of you mention strength of schedule, Louisville had a much lower SOF ranking than TCU, yet lost at West Virginia by 2, and gave Virginia Tech all they could handle in the Gator Bowl. Both of THOSE teams would have strung 50 on our D.

Personally, I think TCU would have beaten us quite handily. They have a sound running game and enough passing to score almost at will against the lowest ranked defense in the country.

I understand many of you honestly think A&M will win every game they play. I can appreciate that. I would like to know what logic brings you to the absurd conclusion that A&M could have easily beaten TCU like many of you seem to think.

I think the above poster is a poser, but I find myself somewhat agreeing. I don't think our team would have beat TCU's this year. Their ranking is probably inflated due to scheduling, but we were not a solid team at all!!!

With that said - they got a nice group of RBs in Fort Worth. I'm actually hoping they put a nice beatdown on Baylor for my personal enjoyment next season.

Snake,

Yes... Reggie Harrell would have smoked our defense - I was extremely impressed with his size and speed while watching the Houston Bowl. The announcers also mentioned that TCU's number 2 receiver was suspended for the bowl game.

Hicks didn't seem hurt to me during the bowl game? Did I miss something?

Part of me wishes we would play TCU as a non-conference game, but the other part of me believes we have nothing to gain by playing that game and everything to lose.

I'd like to believe we'd beat the snot out of TCU, but there's a lot of evidence that Fran would get beat by his protege.

Scare but true.

CJS4715, no poser, just a realist. I find it somewhat amusing how, after the season we had, any Aggie can claim we would have beaten anyone, much less a highly ranked team. Also, I don't understand some people's envy of TCU's success. Would they have gone 5-6 in the Big 12 like we did? Possibly. Would A&M gone 11-1 with their schedule including a bowl win over ISU? Indisputably no. Yet some of you think we could have beaten them easily.

Just ... wow.

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Sagarin has ranked TCU at 15, above Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Auburn, Florida State

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That should tell you all you need to know about Sagarin's ratings. TCU wouldn't even need to bother stepping on the field against Florida, Florida State, Auburn or Georgia.

Ask anyone -- I'm the biggest realist around here. I've also been to more TCU football games than anyone around here, and I can say with complete honesty that the TCU team this year is not that much different than the TCU of season's past.

mhayden,

I challenge you on the football game side. Unless you grew up in a family with season tix and had all things TCU shoved down your throat since you were conceived (and have been to 18 years worth of TCU football games), you've probably been to less TCU games than me.

Probably pretty close running -- my family's been season tickets holders since before I was born, back when that stadium never even got halfway full even for the big games.

I still remember the biggest "upset" TCU had in that time period was knocking off then Top 25 ranked Kansas. Oh how times change

Haha, that was a HUGE win - I remember that one. Were you at Pat Sullivan's first game where they handed out little hand fans with Pat Sullivan's picture on them... good times.

The win over Tech in (was it 95) was pretty sweet. I remember my parents always telling me that Red Raiders were the most obnoxious fans in the SWC. Those words still stick close to my heart...

"it's hard to say. if the A&M team form the early season show upo TCU smokes us."

TCU doesn't smoke a&m even w/ fran and co and wr screen offense.

the line opens @ TCU -a few in amon carter and i'd jump on that big time.

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my family's been season tickets holders since before I was born, back when that stadium never even got halfway full even for the big games.

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Um, how has anything changed?

The new TCU mascot (to help them make the BCS next year):

Stop kidding yourselves. TCU played well this season, therefore TCU is ranked, get over it. A&M is not ranked, and for good reason. Get over your views of TCU as an inferior institution to A&M and consider the reality that your football team had a losing record this season and you have absolutely no grounds to claim that you would beat a team ranked near the top 10. Get over yourselves.

this year's TCU team would have gone 6-5, maybe 7-4 in the Big 12 this year. You had a loss to SMU, would have picked up losses to Texas and Tech, and if you had caught OU anytime past mid-September after Bomar settled in and wouldn't have handed you the game on a silver platter (and they basically ran the table after the RRS if not for the Yosemite Sam referees in Lubbock), you would have lost to OU. You probably would have dropped at least one other game somewhere else along the way - you had nailbiters against BYU and San Diego State for goodness sake, getting you to said 6-5.

I don't see a wide gap between 6-5 and 5-6.

You would not be a ranked team with a Big 12 schedule. Plain and simple. Enjoy the spoils of your conference - one which had only one other team that finished above .500 and made a bowl trip (a mighty 7-5 record at that). The second best team in your conference got punked by 3 TD's against Navy.



[This message has been edited by Jimmie Dimmick (edited 1/10/2006 4:05p).]

Yes, too bad I don't go to TCU though. Actually, MY team went undefeated in the Big 12. So lay off.

big TCU fan though, huh? registered so you could post on both of the TCU threads that popped up today.

edit: oops. out of posts now, huh? see you tomorrow HornFrog.


[This message has been edited by Jimmie Dimmick (edited 1/10/2006 4:12p).]

Again, I'm the biggest "Aggie realist" out there -- and I agree 100% with all of Jimmie's comments 100%.

agreed mhayden...i'd be chomping at the bit for A&m +2.5 or 3

any team ranked near the top 10? the only reason you're ranked is b/c you don't play anyone minus a green rhett bomar and w/o ap for a half. a team you still struggled w/ mind you.

the SMU game was all needed to hear about...

TCU will lose to Baylor in their season opener next year. The frogs will come in top 15 and the Bears will win by at least a TD.

if iowa st can smkoe us at kyle then tcu can certainly do the same if that Aggie team shows up.

if the Aggie team of the final 7 quarters shows up, we win.