***Week Five Start/Sit/Waivers***

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Interesting

Pitts was put on waivers in my 12 team PPR and I wouldn't mind adding him but I'm set with Bowers and really don't have a piece I'd be willing to drop.

It's tempting because if he does have a breakout week he'll be in high demand.
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Enviroag02 said:

I have a trade offer out in my 12 team half PPR

I give: QB: Murray, RB: Brian Robinson Jr, RB: Etienne
I get: QB: Daniels, RB: James Cook, WR: Josh Downs

I consider Daniels a significant upgrade over Murray and Cook a significant upgrade over Robinson.

My team would be:

QB: Daniels
WR: Lamb
WR: Pickens
TE: Kelce
RB: Cook
RB: Mixon
Flex: Dobbins
Flex: Kupp/Jordan Addison/Javonte/Bigsby/Downs
One thing I worry about Cook is can he stay that efficient?
Rushing attempts: 19, 11, 11, 9. 12.5 touches per game
Targets: 3, 1, 5, 1. 2.5 targets

Robinson:
Rushing attempts: 12, 17, 16, 21. 16.5 touches per game
targets: 4, 3, 1, 3. 2.5 targets
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Ag_07 said:

Interesting

Pitts was put on waivers in my 12 team PPR and I wouldn't mind adding him but I'm set with Bowers and really don't have a piece I'd be willing to drop.

It's tempting because if he does have a breakout week he'll be in high demand.
Drop your kicker. If Pitts balls out then find someone else to drop. If he duds then drop Pitts and add the same kicker or a different one.

As an aside i'm a big believer that the first thing you should do on Tuesday is drop your kicker. Simplify your wavier wire add.
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texagbeliever said:

Ag_07 said:

Interesting

Pitts was put on waivers in my 12 team PPR and I wouldn't mind adding him but I'm set with Bowers and really don't have a piece I'd be willing to drop.

It's tempting because if he does have a breakout week he'll be in high demand.
Drop your kicker. If Pitts balls out then find someone else to drop. If he duds then drop Pitts and add the same kicker or a different one.

As an aside i'm a big believer that the first thing you should do on Tuesday is drop your kicker. Simplify your wavier wire add.
So you play no kicker? Or if not, when in this scenario do you add one?
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as a victim of Koo scoring 20 pts against me last week in addition to Moody scoring 26 against me in week 1 and Fairbairn scoring 20 against me in week 2, i want some of that and am jealous I never seem to get it.
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MooreTrucker said:

texagbeliever said:

Ag_07 said:

Interesting

Pitts was put on waivers in my 12 team PPR and I wouldn't mind adding him but I'm set with Bowers and really don't have a piece I'd be willing to drop.

It's tempting because if he does have a breakout week he'll be in high demand.
Drop your kicker. If Pitts balls out then find someone else to drop. If he duds then drop Pitts and add the same kicker or a different one.

As an aside i'm a big believer that the first thing you should do on Tuesday is drop your kicker. Simplify your wavier wire add.
So you play no kicker? Or if not, when in this scenario do you add one?
You just pick one back up on Friday / Saturday. That way you don't have to be if i get this WR i drop this guy. Or if i get this RB i drop this guy. But maybe i drop this RB if i also get this wr.

Kickers are relatively luck. In a 12 team league. 4 of the top 10 kickers were played. Now some offenses are great for kickers like falcons because they have a bad redzone offense but otherwise it isn't a value spot.
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I can't drop him for a kicker if he flops because he'll be locked after he plays Thursday.

I'd either play without a kicker or drop someone else to add a kicker.

Any of these worth the gamble on Pitts?

Javonte Williams
Terry Mc
Tyler Allgeier
Justice Hill
JSN
Tre Tucker (OK...This is the odd man out)
texagbeliever
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You can't drop a player if they are on your bench after they have played? Which platform are you on?

That is annoying. Sleeper & Yahoo both allow you to do that.

I get not dropping one of those on this gamble. My advice would be for people who can drop a bench player who has played. I thought that was standard across leagues.
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yeah leagues where you can drop someone that has already played that week, as long as they were on your bench, is a great hack to either (or both) get an early jump on a hedge you think might be a top waiver priority the next week or play keep-away with someone you won't play but don't want an opponent to pick up and play against you.. ...but I think some leagues won't let you drop someone that has already played that week, even you didn't start them.
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Ag_07 said:

I can't drop him for a kicker if he flops because he'll be locked after he plays Thursday.

I'd either play without a kicker or drop someone else to add a kicker.

Any of these worth the gamble on Pitts?

Javonte Williams
Terry Mc
Tyler Allgeier
Justice Hill
JSN
Tre Tucker (OK...This is the odd man out)

would drop Javonte/Allgeier/Hill/Tucker for Pitts in a heartbeat

hell I'd drop those without Pitts
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I'd keep allgier with Bijan hamstring issue and short play game week.
I'd keep Hill, he has good value if Henry gets hurt.

Tucker has little value. I don't like Javonnte but can't see dropping him.
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texagbeliever said:

You can't drop a player if they are on your bench after they have played? Which platform are you on?

That is annoying. Sleeper & Yahoo both allow you to do that.

I get not dropping one of those on this gamble. My advice would be for people who can drop a bench player who has played. I thought that was standard across leagues.
ESPN doesn't allow that.
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EliteZags said:

Ag_07 said:

I can't drop him for a kicker if he flops because he'll be locked after he plays Thursday.

I'd either play without a kicker or drop someone else to add a kicker.

Any of these worth the gamble on Pitts?

Javonte Williams
Terry Mc
Tyler Allgeier
Justice Hill
JSN
Tre Tucker (OK...This is the odd man out)

would drop Javonte/Allgeier/Hill/Tucker for Pitts in a heartbeat

hell I'd drop those without Pitts

Javonte is almost droppable but with Gibbs on a BYE and Taylor hurt I need him. I'm still hopeful as he's increased his production each week here lately.

Allgeier keeps cutting into Bijan workload and still provides me depth behind Gibbs/Taylor. He also gets some goal line carries. Gold if Bijan misses any time.

Hill is starting to rack up points through receptions. They're finding a way to get him the ball. He's gold if Henry goes down.

Tucker I picked up as a FA today in case Devante gets traded. He's had TDs the past 2 weeks. But yeah he's the odd man out.
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Gross.
As an aside Sleeper >>>>> yahoo >> ESPN.
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texagbeliever said:

Gross.
As an aside Sleeper >>>>> yahoo >> ESPN.
Disagree. I haven't used Yahoo in a long time, but I am in both a Sleeper league and an ESPN league. Now, I might not know or understand all the things that you think make Sleeper better, but IMO the ESPN league is more straightforward to use. Not having an IR (to default that can be changed) is the only real complaint I have for our ESPN league.
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Why all the Tre Tucker hate? He's gonna probably be number 1 (as far as production goes) receiver in Vegas the rest of the year. I had my wife pick him up today while Wicks, Atwell, Legette, and Downs are all still sitting unowned.
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Also TJ Hockenson was designated for return off PUP list this week. He was on the wire in our league so I had my wife pick him up as well in case bowers continues to struggle.
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Prefer others over Tucker…Jakobi will be the alpha if a trade happens.
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Chipotlemonger said:

Prefer others over Tucker…Jakobi will be the alpha if a trade happens.

Jakobi will also be getting the number 1 CB every week, and Tucker has been more productive the past 2 weeks with Davante out. That's why I said most productive. Obviously Jakobi is gonna be the "number 1 receiver"
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mAgnoliAg said:

Chipotlemonger said:

Prefer others over Tucker…Jakobi will be the alpha if a trade happens.

Jakobi will also be getting the number 1 CB every week, and Tucker has been more productive the past 2 weeks with Davante out. That's why I said most productive. Obviously Jakobi is gonna be the "number 1 receiver"


Well sure that may be the last 2 weeks. I think season long Jakobi would be the one I would prefer there.
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mAgnoliAg said:

Why all the Tre Tucker hate? He's gonna probably be number 1 (as far as production goes) receiver in Vegas the rest of the year. I had my wife pick him up today while Wicks, Atwell, Legette, and Downs are all still sitting unowned.

well he was the number 1 in college and that led to like 30-40yds/gm in the AAC


some are fine with having their 3rd wr off bench capping at 5-8pts/game to make their bench look nice, others want talent with potential to do real damage to help win a championship (Wicks, Legette)
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You nailed it there. As is stands, Jakobi Meyers has a 7-10 catch game with 2 TD in his realm of possibility. He was super consistent just last year! People forget, I guess. Not sure that Tucker does have the same upside.
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EliteZags said:

Ag_07 said:

I can't drop him for a kicker if he flops because he'll be locked after he plays Thursday.

I'd either play without a kicker or drop someone else to add a kicker.

Any of these worth the gamble on Pitts?

Javonte Williams
Terry Mc
Tyler Allgeier
Justice Hill
JSN
Tre Tucker (OK...This is the odd man out)

would drop Javonte/Allgeier/Hill/Tucker for Pitts in a heartbeat

hell I'd drop those without Pitts
Kyle Pitts ****ing sucks. I wouldn't drop any player with a pulse for him.
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Quote:

Allgeier keeps cutting into Bijan workload and still provides me depth behind Gibbs/Taylor. He also gets some goal line carries. Gold if Bijan misses any time.
Picked up both Allgeier and Sermon this week. Sermon sounds like a lock to start this week but would rather play Allgeier if Bijan is down tonight. Any word?
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Bijan has no injury designation going into the game today.
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Need 3 in ppr:
Harrison Jr
Evans
Diggs
Chubba


(I have yet to start the right lineup for these 3 spots all season).

thanks in advance
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Nabers: "longshot to play" this weekend.

not a good offense or good QB, and tough matchup, but Wan'Dale Robinson is looking like a start-able play.
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Man I think I would lean Chubba, Harrison, and Evans but Thursday night games are always tough to judge.
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Rough one for my wife's team (I mean basically my team) with St Brown on a bye, Rice out with injury, and Jonathan Taylor likely out. In addition, she has Pitts at TE. I can pick up Njoku, but he's still questionable for the week and Cleveland's offense isn't good. Other options out there are Fant, Taysom Hill, Ertz, Gesicki, and Conklin. But I would have to drop one of Pitts, Doubs, or Ridley. I think I am hesitant to give up on Pitts because we all saw what he could do in college, and if he can put it together, he could be a game changer.
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oh no said:

Nabers: "longshot to play" this weekend.

not a good offense or good QB, and tough matchup, but Wan'Dale Robinson is looking like a start-able play.
Ugh. My alternatives are:

CKirk
Demarcus Robinson
Chase Brown
Doubs

or I can drop on of those and get someone like WanDale, Tutu, or Jakobi.

What say ye?

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Kirk is probably the best of the ones you listed. I really wanted to pick up and hold Jakobi (too late-someone else already got him) to stash for when Devante is traded. Assuming 1 ppr, now that Nabers is for sure out if you need a start this week, I think Wan'Dale, as basically the only WR on the squad, would be good. but he's also been limited in practice this week, so who knows.
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i guess i need to decide by this evening since one of them plays tonight: ppr RB2:

Bucky Irving @ATL (Thursday)
Javonte Williams vs LV


Bucky keeps making the case for himself to supplant White as their lead back. Has been productive, but on the road thrusday night vs tougher run D.

Javonte hasn't done anything, but weak opponent, backup RB Badie is now injured, and McLaughlin hasn't been doing anything either.

RBs vs LV defense: Dobbins 22.9, Henry 16.6, Chuba 27.9, Ford 15.5
RBs vs ATL defense: Najee 8.9, Saquon 17.6, Perine/Steele 15.4, Kamara 24.9
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texagbeliever said:

Bijan has no injury designation going into the game today.
Ok then let me ask you this. I picked up Allgeier and dropped Trey Benson who I was holding waiting for the inevitable James Conner injury. I can flip the add/drop today without penalty. Would you hold Allgeier or roll the dice on Benson?

The rest of my RB
Walker w Charbonnet handcuff
Pollard (bye week this week)
Zamir (ugh)
Sermon (one week fill in for Pollard)
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I'd drop zamir for Benson. Zamir had his chance. Guy is a dud.
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I can drop Josh Palmer at this point right?

Need to free up a spot to stream a kicker
 
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