Whoever is saying he was covered up should stop saying that. He wasn’t. pic.twitter.com/Je0DAMFwpj
— Bob Sturm (@SportsSturm) December 31, 2023
Boys vs Dan Campbells Game Thread
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Pignorant said:Whoever is saying he was covered up should stop saying that. He wasn’t. pic.twitter.com/Je0DAMFwpj
— Bob Sturm (@SportsSturm) December 31, 2023
Yeah definitely not covered up, refs may have ****ed up big time
Gol***93 said:Infection_Ag11 said:vwbug said:
Total screw job by the refs
Lions won that game
Unless you are 100% sure they did NOT report you don't throw that flag. Barbie needed to calm down there.
A covered player doesn't magically become eligible just because he declares himself. Declaring yourself eligible is a jersey number issue, not an alignment issue.
Except you can see the receiver tell the side judge that he is off the ball and not covering the end man on the line of scrimmage. Just say you don't know ball.
He can tell him all he wants, the still shot clearly indicates he is not far enough off the ball to constitute being legally off the ball. And give the guy ESPN pays to explains the rules agrees with me I'll go ahead and tell you to go **** yourself.
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Except you're clearly wrong from the view above
58 was the decoy
68 reported
70 reported
A professional ref needs to be calm andd make sure he understands why people are coming up to you. Why else would he be going over there?
Screw job.
68 reported
70 reported
A professional ref needs to be calm andd make sure he understands why people are coming up to you. Why else would he be going over there?
Screw job.
Infection_Ag11 said:Gol***93 said:Infection_Ag11 said:vwbug said:
Total screw job by the refs
Lions won that game
Unless you are 100% sure they did NOT report you don't throw that flag. Barbie needed to calm down there.
A covered player doesn't magically become eligible just because he declares himself. Declaring yourself eligible is a jersey number issue, not an alignment issue.
Except you can see the receiver tell the side judge that he is off the ball and not covering the end man on the line of scrimmage. Just say you don't know ball.
He can tell him all he wants, the still shot clearly indicates he is not far enough off the ball to constitute being legally off the ball. And give the guy ESPN pays to explains the rules agrees with me I'll go ahead and tell you to go **** yourself.
Infection_Ag11 said:Gol***93 said:Infection_Ag11 said:vwbug said:
Total screw job by the refs
Lions won that game
Unless you are 100% sure they did NOT report you don't throw that flag. Barbie needed to calm down there.
A covered player doesn't magically become eligible just because he declares himself. Declaring yourself eligible is a jersey number issue, not an alignment issue.
Except you can see the receiver tell the side judge that he is off the ball and not covering the end man on the line of scrimmage. Just say you don't know ball.
He can tell him all he wants, the still shot clearly indicates he is not far enough off the ball to constitute being legally off the ball. And give the guy ESPN pays to explains the rules agrees with me I'll go ahead and tell you to go **** yourself.
Refer to the screencaps above. Receiver is clearly in the backfield.
One thing I love about this site is you get a clear picture of how many posters have actually spent years between the lines and how many peaked in junior high.
Take it easy with all this video evidence guys. Trying to remain objective here and call the cheating refs out for handing this game to the Cowboys...again.
I'd like to see infection ag in argument with Sturm
He was not covered up.
The ref clearly said 68 did not report when announcing the penalty.
Campbell said the ref told him that 70 reported.
Thus, the ref did not hear 68 report.
That's what took place.
Dan of course was livid and he let his emotions get the better of him.
The ref clearly said 68 did not report when announcing the penalty.
Campbell said the ref told him that 70 reported.
Thus, the ref did not hear 68 report.
That's what took place.
Dan of course was livid and he let his emotions get the better of him.
vwbug said:
58 was the decoy
68 reported
70 reported
A professional ref needs to be calm andd make sure he understands why people are coming up to you. Why else would he be going over there?
Screw job.
68 tried to be sneaky, which is dumb, because it gets announced to the defense anyway. It cost him. You need to make sure the ref acknowledges you and communicates it to the defense.
I understand that but refs heads should roll when they screw up the game winning play Sorry - it's not the same.
vwbug said:
I understand that but refs heads should roll when they screw up the game winning play Sorry - it's not the same.
Cry harder.
Doesn't the burden fall on 68 to ensure he checked with the ref?
Besides, he could've told him he wears women's underwear for all we know.
Besides, he could've told him he wears women's underwear for all we know.
I mean I'm glad the cowboys won
It's better to be lucky than good
It's better to be lucky than good
Gol***93 said:Infection_Ag11 said:Gol***93 said:Infection_Ag11 said:vwbug said:
Total screw job by the refs
Lions won that game
Unless you are 100% sure they did NOT report you don't throw that flag. Barbie needed to calm down there.
A covered player doesn't magically become eligible just because he declares himself. Declaring yourself eligible is a jersey number issue, not an alignment issue.
Except you can see the receiver tell the side judge that he is off the ball and not covering the end man on the line of scrimmage. Just say you don't know ball.
He can tell him all he wants, the still shot clearly indicates he is not far enough off the ball to constitute being legally off the ball. And give the guy ESPN pays to explains the rules agrees with me I'll go ahead and tell you to go **** yourself.
Refer to the screencaps above. Receiver is clearly in the backfield.
One thing I love about this site is you get a clear picture of how many posters have actually spent years between the lines and how many peaked in junior high.
Says the guy who thinks linemen reporting is an issue of alignment instead of jersey number
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The risk of running decoys is faking out the refs too.
vwbug said:
58 was the decoy
68 reported
70 reported
A professional ref needs to be calm andd make sure he understands why people are coming up to you. Why else would he be going over there?
Screw job.
They said on the broadcast later w the ESPN official that it's the responsibility of the player to make sure the ref sees you. There were 3 OL coming over to the ref. That is 100% on 68.
Infection_Ag11 said:Gol***93 said:Infection_Ag11 said:Gol***93 said:Infection_Ag11 said:vwbug said:
Total screw job by the refs
Lions won that game
Unless you are 100% sure they did NOT report you don't throw that flag. Barbie needed to calm down there.
A covered player doesn't magically become eligible just because he declares himself. Declaring yourself eligible is a jersey number issue, not an alignment issue.
Except you can see the receiver tell the side judge that he is off the ball and not covering the end man on the line of scrimmage. Just say you don't know ball.
He can tell him all he wants, the still shot clearly indicates he is not far enough off the ball to constitute being legally off the ball. And give the guy ESPN pays to explains the rules agrees with me I'll go ahead and tell you to go **** yourself.
Refer to the screencaps above. Receiver is clearly in the backfield.
One thing I love about this site is you get a clear picture of how many posters have actually spent years between the lines and how many peaked in junior high.
Says the guy who thinks linemen reporting is an issue of alignment instead of jersey number
I think you have the wrong guy..
admit you were wrong on the guy being covered up
you can be the bigger man here
you can be the bigger man here
cone said:
admit you were wrong on the guy being covered up
you can be the bigger man here
LOL
Not holding my breath on that one!!
you are hoping the defense doesn't hear the ref when they announce them. been done for years. in this case, yep - faked out nerd boy and barbie.
This needs to be said too. The tripping call was such a BS call.
Here is the other one: not a great angle but there is no way Hendershot should have been called for tripping. Hutchinson? Perhaps. Holding? Maybe. But no way on tripping. Will need to see the all 22. pic.twitter.com/DRbafoxjrw
— Bob Sturm (@SportsSturm) December 31, 2023
Typically why you don't run out multiple guys with numbers 50-79 checking in to be eligible on a playDannyDuberstein said:
The risk of running decoys is faking out the refs too.
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Macarthur said:vwbug said:
58 was the decoy
68 reported
70 reported
A professional ref needs to be calm andd make sure he understands why people are coming up to you. Why else would he be going over there?
Screw job.
They said on the broadcast later w the ESPN official that it's the responsibility of the player to make sure the ref sees you. There were 3 OL coming over to the ref. That is 100% on 68.
The ref literally ran from him
Just gotta take those. Superstars like Hutchinson get those calls.Macarthur said:
This needs to be said too. The tripping call was such a BS call.Here is the other one: not a great angle but there is no way Hendershot should have been called for tripping. Hutchinson? Perhaps. Holding? Maybe. But no way on tripping. Will need to see the all 22. pic.twitter.com/DRbafoxjrw
— Bob Sturm (@SportsSturm) December 31, 2023
If reynolds is off than so is St. Brown. 5 in the backfield, illegal formation.
I was wondering the same thing. Rewound that play 5 times during the 2 min warning commercial. I could not see a dang thing.
Took away a really good 1st down run... we most likely convert after that and we kneel to win it.
But not so fast... the refs decided they wanted to decide this game.
Took away a really good 1st down run... we most likely convert after that and we kneel to win it.
But not so fast... the refs decided they wanted to decide this game.
who threw the flag?
He was clearly going to check in 70 w the defense. It is the responsibility of the player to make sure he's checked in.
I dont blame him, we all heard the same thing on the broadcast. Just gotta change your opinion when its proven wrong.cone said:
admit you were wrong on the guy being covered up
you can be the bigger man here
It's not entirely unlike a really unusual trick play that you cover with a ref before the game to make sure they don't fall for it too. You run 2 decoys and 1 real reporter at the ref in the heat of it to fool the defense and also have none of them give the visual eligible check-in signal, you risk losing them too
To inform the defense of what was said, right?Basketball and Chain said:Macarthur said:
..on the broadcast later w the ESPN official that it's the responsibility of the player to make sure the ref sees you. There were 3 OL coming over to the ref. That is 100% on 68.
The ref literally ran from him
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Macarthur said:
He was clearly going to check in 70 w the defense. It is the responsibility of the player to make sure he's checked in.
How's he supposed to know what he's telling the defense?
The ref rushed and ran away. I don't see how 68 did anything wrong. If I'm him, I'm thinking he heard me and is checking me in
68 was not covered.
68 is at fault because he didn't make sure the ref noticed he was reporting. The ref never looked at him. 70 got acknowledgement from the ref, 68 didn't. He was hoping he got reported by association of being nearby.
The defense covering that side should have recognized that 68 was eligible anyway, regardless of number. The receiver has to report to the side judge if they're on the line, corners and safeties should have recognized 68 was open by alignment alone.
68 is at fault because he didn't make sure the ref noticed he was reporting. The ref never looked at him. 70 got acknowledgement from the ref, 68 didn't. He was hoping he got reported by association of being nearby.
The defense covering that side should have recognized that 68 was eligible anyway, regardless of number. The receiver has to report to the side judge if they're on the line, corners and safeties should have recognized 68 was open by alignment alone.
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